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What are INTP unique abilities?

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Is there something, in which INTPs are better than any other type? Something, what INTP can do better than INTJ, ENTJ, ENTP ?
 

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Lets not forget ISTJ, and ISTP. :D
 

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Hands down philosophy and creative thinking.... hands down; maybe ENTP... no not even them lol !
 

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INTP - Synthesizing/Systematizing
INTJ - Strategizing/Planning
ENTJ - Directing/Organizing
ENTP - Inventing/Originating
ISTP - Building/Operating
ISTJ - Inspecting/Persevering
 

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Procrastination! XD

er.. Actually, from what I've seen/experienced, Ti dominants in general seem to be naturally adept at being aware of inconsistencies and logical incongruences. I think that's why INTPs are often noted for being grammar sharks, language is a system with a specific logic to it, and grammar mistakes represent an inconsistency in that logic.

Of course, other types may also possess the same ability to pick up on errors. I think trying to predict specific behaviors based on one's psychological type is kind of a futile endeavor, and one that ends up in incorrect conclusions. Any correlation between behavior and type would have to be very general. Modern psychology has shown that many of our behaviors are due more to nurture than nature, this is why cognitive behavioral therapy tends to be as successful of an approach as it is.
 

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We cast fireballs from our eyes and bolts of lightning from our arse.

But seriously though I think we don't have any special INTP skills. Perhaps we get to be good at some things such as language not because we're great but because the field suits our thinking process.
 

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Well, theese intp's abilities or attributes:

INTP - Synthesizing/Systematizing

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aren't very spectacular :/

Is criticism the only thing what INTPs can do? People don't like it.
 
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Writing awefully long posts and examinating every way possible of an idea, even if it doesn't make sense :P

If you sort out everything wrong, you will end up with the correct answer and only the correct answer.
 

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Analysis, obviously.
 

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My INFP cousin is very clever sometimes.
INTP's best ability (or just mine) is imagination. I think it's important in all sciences, abstract jobs, planning, future foresee, problem solving. It only worths nothing in common life stuff, everyday chores, etc...
 

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just get things and have the best spontaneous understanding of how the general dynamics of a system works. not the execution of principles (Te) but the comparison and, possibly, synthesis of principles. arranged in an interlocking patchwork. when trying to verbalize, it often comes out in the wrong order and may sound unconvincing, also partly due to the [lack of unabashed self-confidence] felt to be the essence of consistent communication. temporal/sequential perspective and optimized particular application do not come easy. this causes feelings of stupidity and shame, which are countered by the attitude that such worldly things as tactics and behavior are petty - an attitude much evidenced in this very post - its biased vocabulary and poor rhetoric alike, on different levels.

i can imagine how EditorOne would wince at this word salad... <--- that was inferior Fe maybe. hehe
 

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Pin-pointing hidden, abstracty things out of boredom and making them more obvious. I'm not sure that's entirely unique though. Anyone could probably do it if they really wanted to.
 

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metacognition. It requires profound abstraction and the ability to deal with potentially soul-crushing unknowns (aka demons).
 

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Ti is primarily creative. It's sometimes perceived as a problem solver, but not because it understands given "problems" (such as climate destabilization) so well, only because it can invent methodological solutions and possibly circumvent problems (and create other problems) in a world that was designed by humans.

Trace any function back to it's evolutionary origin, to understand it's essential purpose or strengths.

It's amazing to see how large parts of our worldview, even large parts of science, are our own creation, not something that we have found outside, through objective extroversion, poking around with sticks.

What is a bow and arrow? A method to create distance between you and the prey. Some extrovert has to go out and find the best wood for a bow, the wood will dictate what sort of bow is possible, da vinci must have hated wood, since it wouldn't allow for helicopters, but the invention is driven by introverted needs.

Ti is not as analytical as it thinks it is, it's only analytical about the aspects of our world that were invented by Ti, which are a lot of aspects. When Ti tries to be analytical about things that exist outside of thinking-tactic it's projections become oddly inappropriate.

Why did god create the universe, was he lonely? Did he have a fetish for mathematical symmetry? If you create one, you have to create two? Is reality governed by natural laws? Really? You think there are laws? There is a method to the insanity? Sometimes you come close to empathize with reality, but it remains a projection.

But inventions are relative to your empathy, your projection of natural law. The helicopter is designed to work relative to your idea of how air would work, if you had invented air, according to criteria that are important to you.

You may never discover if air could also be a transmitter of telepathy, if you don't even want to be telepathic. Ti doesn't want that though. Maybe transmit, certainly not receive.

Ti will never just casually come around to the analytic conclusion that it must be animal products that are killing us, unless it wants to find a way, to improve it's health. Even then it would be a coincidental discovery. Instead it casually forms the intention of either killing or not killing for survival, based on subjective criteria. In first person view, killing is either dangerous und nourishing. In second person view (projected) it's either a loss to exit life or liberating. Focus is on subjective action (decision) and it's informed through unconscious pathways about what can be done.
 

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Well, theese intp's abilities or attributes:



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aren't very spectacular :/

Is criticism the only thing what INTPs can do? People don't like it.

Wtf who made that picture... the ISFP, I loled for reals because it was so random and unexpected
 

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Very deep logical analysis on something they're interested in. But I think it's also a weakness because they get blindsided by other methods..
 

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LOL yeah, sex.

Also if you read what ScorpioMover has to say, I love how INTPs have the ability to break things down to the lowest common denominator. Architect as well as others are really good at this.
 

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Procrastination! XD

er.. Actually, from what I've seen/experienced, Ti dominants in general seem to be naturally adept at being aware of inconsistencies and logical incongruences. I think that's why INTPs are often noted for being grammar sharks, language is a system with a specific logic to it, and grammar mistakes represent an inconsistency in that logic.

I consider language an art form and therefore I dont care much about grammar. Rules hinder creativity. Language will be always evolving and our mind must not be a slave to grammar. Of course some grammar and therefore some consistency is needed, but frankly I dont give a shit about grammar or grammar mistakes. I overlook them on purpose. I dont even correct my own grammar mistakes. Whats most important is to get the idea over to the other side. The goal of language is to get that feeling and thought and plastic image over to the their mind. Make sure that you can craft the words in ways that make your mind go from numb to alive. I dont know any grammar rules in english accept those that are perfectly obvious from everyday usage, but I dont care about grammar. I do agree that intelligent people should know grammar, but I just dont think its necessarily a INTP thing.
 

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Well, theese intp's abilities or attributes:



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aren't very spectacular :/

Is criticism the only thing what INTPs can do? People don't like it.
Wtf who made that picture... the ISFP, I loled for reals because it was so random and unexpected

The poster may be very inaccurate about most of the types, but I think it does a very good job of summering what the intp is about. Not that this is the first time I've seen the intp labeled as an "accuracy obsessive", it's actually a fairly common title (well titles that more or less imply this).
 

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I consider language an art form and therefore I dont care much about grammar. Rules hinder creativity.

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I do agree that intelligent people should know grammar, but I just dont think its necessarily a INTP thing.

I agree. Language is an expression that can take many forms. You just have to choose the form that best communicates what you want to express, and sometimes that requires having excellent grammar skills. If you were writing a book, or a scientific proof; I would think that grammar is very important. For a forum, I would think that expression takes precedent over grammar.

Honestly, I have no idea what an adjective, or predicate is. I don't know the rules to form a proper sentence. I just type what I feel and put commas, dashes, and semicolons where I think that they look best.

My language used to be very dry and concise. But people take it offensively so I add a lot more words than necessary. It's best to write for the audience.
 

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We seem to have a preternatural ability to read what is written or hear what is said, and then work out what should logically be true based on that, that contradicts all known laws of physics and understanding of the material.

It usually shell-shocks other people to see us do the impossible. Then when we explain how we figured it out, using the information that was already known to them, they either say "That information was known to everyone. Anyone could have figured that out." or "Wow. I never would have thought of that, even though I knew what you knew. You're really smart."
 

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Theorizing.
 

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Getting with our own way (?)






....(been told it's something I'm gifted at)
 

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Constructing systems of meaningless statements, pretending to use "logic".
 

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Being opera singer, stripper, porn star, warrior, concrete realistic artist, sex therapist, campaigner for homeopathy, hockey player, highly charismatic evangelist, swimsuit model. It is just obvious.

It is actually funny how INTPs rock at grammar precision but ENTPs have no interest detecting run on sentences. I'm very strict in sense of rightness when it comes to systems, though.
 

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Sweet spot for INTPs is the moment where Ti Si AND Ne all work togather in perfect harmony.
No type can beat that, but to get to the level of mastery and have a INTP fully matured and developed in such a way takes lot of work. The weakness is Ne I guess. Ne means we end up taking unrealistic input in form of psychotic thoughts and consider them real. Its terrible. We end up with theories and ideas that are useless. Good only as mental exercise.

Si is important to practice as well. We are very similar to ISTPs, but unlike ISTPs we can go further into theory and work out a much better system. But only in the long run. In short run ISTP can be pretty effective. As for comparing INTJ to INTP I would say that INTP can get very different results compared to INTJ. INTJs are very good at deep analysis, but I would say they tend to have many blind spots that prevent them from seeing the same picture from INTPs.
 

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Analysis is the correct answer here.

Being an INTP myself I can look at my own timeline and my choices, lifestyle, perception of others and of the world which all lead me to the same conclusion. I put way more time in thought than everyone else around me. Except for fellow INTPs.

It can be difficult to harness the full potential of an INTP. Though some basic rules are the same as keeping a plant happy.

Give freedom.
Stimulate with fresh ideas / concerns.
Assign to open-ended tasks.


Things that don't work for us.

Take away freedom.
Keep too long on a project. INTPs have an expiration date when it comes to projects. More so than most other personalities.
Implement rigid rules and regulations that prohibit the flow of thought.
Assign to mundane tasks that don't massage critical thought.

Put some thought into this and how you go about looking for happiness regardless of it being a relationship, a job, a new investment, etc. It all applies.
 

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Analysis, pattern-spotting, and designing logical systems and frameworks out of things (hence the name Architect)

The US Constitution is rather INTP to me, at least at its beginning. James Madison, a prominent INTP writer of it, helped design a framework for government. Now that I think of it, a lot of Intuitives worked on the constitution, Franklin being ENTP, and so on. Sad to see it not being followed today.
 

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Constructing systems of meaningless statements, pretending to use "logic".

I was going to put something similar. INTP's are good at talking about how smart they are, but they lack those standards when it comes time to show it.

But I think there is more to it.

It's the interaction with people that sucks. And, when it comes down to actually doing something (even if there's problem solving involved), that sucks too.

But when nobody is watching, and the INTP is completely all to himself in the forest, there's supposedly some crazy brilliant thing going on in there. But if nobody is around to hear it, did it actually happen?

:confused:
 

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I was going to put something similar. INTP's are good at talking about how smart they are, but they lack those standards when it comes time to show it.

No, that's fake INTP's.

The types best at bragging about their intelligence are the ENxJ's. They can usually fool many into greatly overestimating their intelligence thanks to unrelenting social opportunism. INxJ's can have immense brag spells on individuals but usually aren't interested in deceiving society at large because their Ni-dominance doesn't like continuously having to deal with disturbances to its own worldview.

ENTP's also brag but we do it in a conscious, self-sabotaging, jocular way while also actually demonstrating our intelligence but to an audience that won't listen due to our obnoxious confidence which is actually a parody. We love exerting vengeance by preventing people from being right by explaining the truth to them in condescending ways. It's such irresistible poking at human nature. Alas, sometimes this vengeance may be grossly misdirected which results in unnecessary polemics and is (not unreasonably) perceived as indicative of an insanely bragging character but is actually just a result of us being rootless hurt little mofos with a catastrophic and fragmented internal Fi rapport. This differentiates us from the ENxJ's to whom straight-up, smooth bragging is just second nature.

INTP's really hate bragging in principle but may have trouble detecting it or defending against it. They often mistake things for bragging but fail to notice dangerous bragging because they are methodically non-judgmental to a fault. They have no trouble performing intellectually and proving themselves. It's an absolute non-issue for INTP's. They excel at all tasks that may prove intelligence such as aptitude tests, intelligence tests, logical riddles and analysis.
 

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No, that's fake INTP's.

The types best at bragging about their intelligence are the ENxJ's. They can usually fool many into greatly overestimating their intelligence thanks to unrelenting social opportunism. INxJ's can have immense brag spells on individuals but usually aren't interested in deceiving society at large because their Ni-dominance doesn't like continuously having to deal with disturbances to its own worldview.

ENTP's also brag but we do it in a conscious, self-sabotaging, jocular way while also actually demonstrating our intelligence but to an audience that won't listen due to our obnoxious confidence which is actually a parody. We love exerting vengeance by preventing people from being right by explaining the truth to them in condescending ways. It's such irresistible poking at human nature. Alas, sometimes this vengeance may be grossly misdirected which results in unnecessary polemics and is (not unreasonably) perceived as indicative of an insanely bragging character but is actually just a result of us being rootless hurt little mofos with a catastrophic and fragmented internal Fi rapport. This differentiates us from the ENxJ's to whom straight-up, smooth bragging is just second nature.

INTP's really hate bragging in principle but may have trouble detecting it or defending against it. They often mistake things for bragging but fail to notice dangerous bragging because they are methodically non-judgmental to a fault. They have no trouble performing intellectually and proving themselves. It's an absolute non-issue for INTP's.

Ok, It was just me then. I sometimes surprise myself when I can't get to the intelligence level that I thought I was.
 

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Ok, It was just me then. I sometimes surprise myself when I can't get to the intelligence level that I thought I was.

Or maybe what i wrote is just me, i don't know.

I think you are probably intelligent, you may have self-esteem issues and you should remember that there's a difference between having internal faith in ones intellectual potential and going around claiming to be intelligent. What do you mean when you say you perform worse than expected? A concrete example would be helpful if you don't mind. I'm trying to disprove you while also trying to help you to overcome the self-deprecating attitude.
 
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