Vagabonds, who are your closest friends?

[Rebis]

Pretty sure we've all came here to brush up against another and compare ourselves to other people with the same personality type; in essence we're searching for an aspect of ourselves we don't find in others, and hope we find it here.

On that topic, who are your closest friends in real life? Why are they your friends, and what value do you and the person offer each other?

 

[Kormak]

Take a wild guess... tfw INTP

Idk, I know many ppl, how do I tell if we are besties? Apart from the gf, which atm does not exist (tfw no gf).. I keep most ppl on a long leash.

I only really share secrets with this one ENTP, he may sometimes show disapproval, but he gets me.

 

[Marbles]

My best friend is an INTP. When I met him, I felt like he was the first person who "got" me. Other friends include a couple ENFPs, who are creative in ways different from me, and offer me some spiritual perspectives which are welcome the 20% of the time I do not find them annoying. Another friend is an INTJ, but I don't know him that well yet. He sure has a lot of supernatural beliefs for a thinker, so I suspect he's actually a feeler.

I came to this forum to meet like-minded people, like you suggested, and am surprised by the degree to which I have found them.

As to what my friends find in me... Unusual perspectives, which are food for conversation, I think. My INTP friend finds a soulmate. He really wants to do some entrepreneurship with me, but my health is too poor at the moment. I'm really kicking myself for that, cause he is the brightest man I've ever met, and his family has a fortune of around 200 million dollars, so I'm pretty sure he will succeed. The margins between success and unfortune can be pretty small, sometimes.

 

[Rebis]

I came to this forum to meet like-minded people, like you suggested, and am surprised by the degree to which I have found them.

As to what my friends find in me... Unusual perspectives, which are food for conversation, I think. My INTP friend finds a soulmate. He really wants to do some entrepreneurship with me, but my health is too poor at the moment. I'm really kicking myself for that, cause he is the brightest man I've ever met, and his family has a fortune of around 200 million dollars, so I'm pretty sure he will succeed. The margins between success and unfortune can be pretty small, sometimes.

I've been surprised too and because of the lack of contact with INTPs in real life I'm starting to refactor the way I communicate with alike people. I'm starting to revert back to my thinking, contemplative self and having to actively listen to alike people as I have a habit of zoning out, even to my brightest friends. My posts in the forum or sometimes half-baked, so I'm actively considering that the people on this forum are unintentionally my kindred spirits, and I should listen to them in the same way I wish for others to listen to me. I should stop posting high amounts of posts in small periods for simple mental stimulation, like a devil's advocate searching for discussion.

I've been offered to do business with, not of a family with the same caliber of wealth but I turned it down because I doubted the foundations in the first place. Having said that, I really should bite the bullet, I'm starting to understand the importance of money now, and how easy it is to reach a comfortable wealth bracket if you have an entrepreneur spirit.

Thoughts are king in our mind but money is king in reality. We must decide if we want to live in our kingdom of solitude or the reality we exist in.

 

[Marbles]

I very easily zone out myself. I have been trying to remedy that for years, without success. It seems to be a foundational part of my nature. If I do not take the time to retreat into my mind and process things, I soon become ill from over stimulation.

I like to strike a balance between light-hearted and more contemplative posts. Discussions have a tendency to become dick measuring contests, which you lose either way - by alienating others by winning, or by simply losing the debate. Better to just say your piece and leave if an exploration of ideas becomes a competition. There is rarely any nuance found in such discussions, anyway.

On wealth... I find one can be quite comfortable with little, but keep in mind that I'm Norwegian. I'm not saying someone poor in a third world country should just "buckle up". To me, further wealth would simply mean influence. Means to build something, carve out a corner of the world, change it for the better.

 

[Rebis]

I very easily zone out myself. I have been trying to remedy that for years, without success. It seems to be a foundational part of my nature. If I do not take the time to retreat into my mind and process things, I soon become ill from over stimulation.

I like to strike a balance between light-hearted and more contemplative posts. Discussions have a tendency to become dick measuring contests, which you lose either way - by alienating others by winning, or by simply losing the debate. Better to just say your piece and leave if an exploration of ideas becomes a competition. There is rarely any neuance found in such discussions, anyway.

On wealth... I find one can be quite comfortable with little, but keep in mind that I'm Norwegian. I'm not saying someone poor in a third world country should just "buckle up". To me, further wealth would simply mean influence. Means to build something, carve out a corner of the world, change it for the better.

The Nordic countries are fairly socialist-orientated, I live in Northern Ireland but capitalism permeates through everything: I'm a student and everything in our accommodation is designed to charge you: Washing is £5 for wash and dry (your radiator has room for one item), Heating is inclusive but only until midday and 5-10pm, extra devices connected to wifi cost money and the student shop is just shit expensive. On top of that it's £110 a week, I got £2,150ish for exactly 114 days.

So for rent alone:
16 x 110 = 1760
then the rest for food.

Got a part time job now, but I think there's an irony in convincing students to excel in their subject and escape poverty by charging high-end accommodation prices and making students from low income backgrounds get a second job, just to live. I'm ok, I know I won't get bad grades and I can handle a lot, but I don't think students chasing a better economic income should be put in poverty for a certain amount of years. After all it's all under loans so we're paying this back, and with a higher income bracket, we will be paying way more than your average worker in tax. So why not allow us to live a comfortable existence, and focus our intentions on becoming the best student we can be? I'll sacrifice sleep, health and diet all to basically give them more money. Maybe it's the fact there are way too many people with a degree in arts, maybe if degrees were more proportional to jobs in the economy we wouldn't have to stretch every student in terms of equality.

 

[Rebis]

The poorer you are the more money matters, that's the simple scale of financial concern. The more you learn about the world the more ways you learn to enhance your performance, through nutrition, cognitive enhancers, exercise, sociability, learning, love etc, but the cheapest foods are the worst in terms of nutrition and yet students don't complain if they live of ramen because they're not educated on the problems of processed ramen, and more importantly they don't care they're enslaved by the taste. I'm not, and I think I should be allowed economic access to healthy foods.

 

[heather mcdougall]

My 2 best friends, are one I had at school and the other I met when I was 17. I am now nearly 56. I have a couple of really good friends from an amateur orchestra, and have known them for at least 10 years. I also have 3 good friends from University as a mature student. My husband is not only the love of my life, but is my best friend too. I don't have many friends , but the ones I do have are of great quality, and longevity.

 

[Marbles]

My 2 best friends, are one I had at school and the other I met when I was 17. I am now nearly 56. I have a couple of really good friends from an amateur orchestra, and have known them for at least 10 years. I also have 3 good friends from University as a mature student. My husband is not only the love of my life, but is my best friend too. I don't have many friends , but the ones I do have are of great quality, and longevity.

Welcome to the forum!

 

[Ex-User (14663)]

I live in Northern Ireland but capitalism permeates through everything: I'm a student and everything in our accommodation is designed to charge you: Washing is £5 for wash and dry (your radiator has room for one item), Heating is inclusive but only until midday and 5-10pm, extra devices connected to wifi cost money and the student shop is just shit expensive. On top of that it's £110 a week, I got £2,150ish for exactly 114 days.

ah yes, those fees bring back memories from when I studied in UK. I think we had pretty much those exact prices. I definitely felt like I was getting robbed, but at the same time the food and drink felt dirt cheap compared to Norway.

 

[Rebis]

ah yes, those fees bring back memories from when I studied in UK. I think we had pretty much those exact prices. I definitely felt like I was getting robbed, but at the same time the food and drink felt dirt cheap compared to Norway.

Food is cheap but I've built up a knowledge base on nutrition and diet, so I read too much into sweeteners, vitamins, inflammatory foods and whatever have you. Sometimes ignorance matters, if that were the case I would happily live on noodles. Now it's eggs, avocados, oats, Fish with high DHA Omega 3 and a buttload more vitamins.

 

[Rebis]

I definitely felt like I was getting robbed, but at the same time the food and drink felt dirt cheap compared to Norway.

Drink is definitely pretty cheap, I've drunk pretty heavily on a decent budget, but bars got my money big time.

 

[Minuend]

My bf is my best friend. We have similar values, we share humor and we're able to understand each other, which is not something to take for granted.

Other than that I tend to be attracted (as friends) to outsiders who are able to recognize how absurd everything is and are able to make a mockery of dumb things people (including ourselves) do. Ridiculous humor is probably the most important factor to me, even though my intpf persona probably doesn't give that impression.

 

[Rook]

None. XD Proximity is a bitch.

 

[Rebis]

Other than that I tend to be attracted (as friends) to outsiders who are able to recognize how absurd everything is and are able to make a mockery of dumb things people (including ourselves) do. Ridiculous humor is probably the most important factor to me, even though my intpf persona probably doesn't give that impression.

I like myself some outsiders, I usually rush head first towards people I find unique. It happens less and less as you get older, or maybe what I mean is the differential becomes increasing nuanced but I've always been attracted to vagobonds and outsiders, they aren't predictable and you can learn a lot from their isolated perspective.

 

[rlnb]

I don't have any long term friends. I usually end up with 1 or 2 friends to have interesting conversations with everywhere I go. I had one friend in school. One in college and 1 in every place I have worked at. But these friendship's don't last too long once I move. I am notorious for not getting back promptly to texts etc, so the contact kind of ends up being very sparse over time and slowly dies out.

I guess the only people who been in my life long term are my immediate family , and even with them my contact is fairly sparse.

 

[Tenacity]

xNTx
Pros: holds the most thoughtful, analytical, and critical conversations, duration varies based on comprehension and effort in exploring that comprehension
Cons: debating can eventually be tiring, mannerless, conclusion-less, and forgetful that emotion actually exists

xNFx
Pros: creates and reciprocates the most emotion and leads small talk conducive to bonding
Cons: talking about practical future goals and execution interests them yet can bore them when they try to apply it; more likely to take an argument / disagreement personally when it was actually just an objective sentence

"Friends" tends to be a strong word, so the above is a summary of perhaps my closest acquaintances.

 

[Rebis]

"Friends" tends to be a strong word, so the above is a summary of perhaps my closest acquaintances.

How come you find friend a strong word? I find it pretty lax, using it to describe pretty much everyone I know. I do think I overuse it way too much and people do consider the classification of "friend" having value while I just use it for everyone I've talked to at least twice. Having said that my best friends we wouldn't talk daily, but we'd still classify each other as best friends. One is INTP, one is INFP and the other is probably ISFP. Considering the introversion we're all relatively social and popular.

 

[Tenacity]

"Friends" tends to be a strong word, so the above is a summary of perhaps my closest acquaintances.

How come you find friend a strong word? I find it pretty lax, using it to describe pretty much everyone I know. I do think I overuse it way too much and people do consider the classification of "friend" having value while I just use it for everyone I've talked to at least twice. Having said that my best friends we wouldn't talk daily, but we'd still classify each other as best friends. One is INTP, one is INFP and the other is probably ISFP. Considering the introversion we're all relatively social and popular.

It is less about friends, and more about people. People's words in real life derail me from my thoughts.

That said, I can also be very popular. Gotta stay alpha.