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Typology obsessiveness

Artsu Tharaz

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Does anyone else have an obsession with typology?

If you don't, I guess you can still respond in terms of other obsessions you have, if you're an obsession prone person.

I've been obsessed with typology for years - almost for as long as I've known about typology at all.

I generally don't mind this, because I feel that I've been able to make original contributions to the field, and one day these contributions may be recognised, and I still have the capacity to uncover more, so basically I don't see it as having been a waste.

But I tried not long ago to distance myself from the field, and I found it very difficult to do so. I kept having to stop myself from typing everyone I came across on youtube, or viewing people in terms of the type that I had previously assigned them as. And though I sort of stopped thinking about it, instead I was thinking about something that's very related.

So after a few days of trying to distance myself from it, I caved. Now I'm carrying on with is as usual.

Has anyone else experienced the typology obsession, or do most people have it as a more moderate interest among other interests? Do you experience obsessiveness in general?
 

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Yeah so you see there's this girl... ^^

Amen thats another thing. But yeah types can be pretty addicting. If youre bored I can fetch the types pictures and research relates stuff on the forum, you might find them interesting.

I pretty much laid off types after I got into gaming I think, though I laid off gaming too nowadays as well. If youre trying to get your dopamine fix from typology I'd recommend just like playing or listening to music, watching movies or just chatting up old friends. Do you write? Perhaps that could be another way to vent off your downtime.
 

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If youre trying to get your dopamine fix from typology I'd recommend just like playing or listening to music, watching movies or just chatting up old friends. Do you write? Perhaps that could be another way to vent off your downtime.
I don't think I get a dopamine fix from it? But maybe I do. I don't know neuroscience stuff that well.

I mean, I smoke to get a dopamine fix. I don't think typology is like smoking,

And I do listen to a lot of music, though not as much as I used to, and I have other ways of getting a dopamine fix. And I want to be interested in something if it is a higher level above typology, not just anything for the sake of switching hobby.

I write poetry sometimes, but usually when I go to write something I can't really think of anything.

I might get back into playing, and hopefully even writing, music (guitar mainly, keyboard too).
 

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I wasn't really obsessed. I used to incorporate it into how I structured solutions to my life goals or how I described others and it wasn't very helpful just one of those biased mental shortcuts that are easy to adopt. As exploration of my personality improved, the understanding of myself has grown more sophisticated and precise beyond labels and adjectives of types. I'm now more capable of defining my inner states for keeping myself healthy so there is no useful guidance from mbti. Over time the whole system faded away from my idiolect.

I think it isn't much of a controversy to say that 90% of commercial typology is a scam, the major kind being a celebrity/charisma cult. The 10% who offer some workable insight on life get it from psychology/science or personal experience and choose to sell it under the framework.
 

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when I learned about mbti, it was only one out of a million of different sources from which I learned about stuff like behavior, personality, psychology, self-improvement etc. Probably because of that, I never really got obsessed with it. E.g. I never bought into the static view of personality, or the unconditional praise of all the various modes of personality. For example, I viewed the unhinged Ne-aspect of my thinking as something not conducive to the things I actually wanted to do, so I decided to become Ni instead.
 

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Typology is quackery, better find something else to focus on.
It's a framework for interpreting various forms of patterns, mostly applied on the level of human psychology, but with other levels possible. If the framework has explanatory power, and predictive power, which I believe it does, then it is on the level of science. But I am aware of the limitations of science. Partly aware, at least. A type/type distribution is a way of describing a person much in the same way as various other descriptors describe a person. They are simplifications, but that's what we operate on much of the time. If the system can be used as a guiding principle for organising aspects of life in a way which matches certain levels of functioning, then why not use it?

Having said that, I don't know if I would be so concerned with the topic if there didn't seem to be a significant change undergoing lately regarding how the system is conceptualised. I would prefer other forms of explanation, or what have you, over it. I prefer Christianity, for example.
 

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Typology is quackery, better find something else to focus on.
It's a framework for interpreting various forms of patterns, mostly applied on the level of human psychology, but with other levels possible. If the framework has explanatory power, and predictive power, which I believe it does, then it is on the level of science. But I am aware of the limitations of science. Partly aware, at least. A type/type distribution is a way of describing a person much in the same way as various other descriptors describe a person. They are simplifications, but that's what we operate on much of the time. If the system can be used as a guiding principle for organising aspects of life in a way which matches certain levels of functioning, then why not use it?

Having said that, I don't know if I would be so concerned with the topic if there didn't seem to be a significant change undergoing lately regarding how the system is conceptualised. I would prefer other forms of explanation, or what have you, over it. I prefer Christianity, for example.
Feng Shui is that as well. Don't let that discourage yourself.

If the framework has explanatory power, and predictive power, which I believe it does
A matter of belief, and every serious scientific study has disproven.

Typology is at a level compared to science as biological racism was one hundred years ago. Think about that.
 

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Typology is quackery, better find something else to focus on.
I'll need something better than this if I'm to actually abandon the typology ship and dimiss it as fraudulent. If I'm serious about wanting to move onto something else, then I could just take you at your word, but I don't think I'm willing to do that.

What makes typology so poor in substance? Why is it not approaching the level of science? Why, basically, is it a waste of time?
 

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For example, I've been able to observe my mental processes and see that the order of the 8 functions associated with INFJ manifests on an observable level in my mind. That shows how powerful typology is in being able to explain and predict mental processes, and even if it's somehow just a placebo and I've changed how my mind works to fit the model, then that showcases the power of typology to change how the mind functions.
 

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If youre always thinking about mbti then its probable that youre intp or one of the NT or IN types, so I think you identifying with INFJ makes sense
 

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If youre always thinking about mbti then its probable that youre intp or one of the NT or IN types, so I think you identifying with INFJ makes sense
Do INTPs get that obsessive with things?

I had thought that kind of single-mindedness was an attribute of introverted perception.

(though I am very likely wrong about that)
 

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INTPs can get obsessive with things they're into (different hobbies, depending on their gene expression). Typology is easy to dismiss as "pseudoscience" because if you say it is, it makes you look smart or intelligent because you used logic. There's some indication that everything people do, even sub/unconsciously, is to bait and provoke a response out of someone to "help them learn", seeing as how "people just want the answers to their questions". There's basically no possible way anyone has thought this out more and clearer than I have. Call it what you want (jealousy, envy, anger, immaturity, pleading, whining, suffering; etc), but it just is. No amount of philosophy will get you anywhere besides a book. All the moral questions and answers are already in the religions, namely the Torah & Talmud. And life is about "balance". So anything else is really vanity or a hope to become recognized for one's work, which hypothetically makes them look more attractive if they do certain stuff. If you don't obsess over anything in life, it's basically a lose-lose situation so it's recommended you should. Ultimately, from what I've noticed people just obsess over looking at people. Then, they merely do the opposite, hoping it means they're smarter than you at last because they can "see what's missing".
 

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Typology is quackery, better find something else to focus on.
I'll need something better than this if I'm to actually abandon the typology ship and dimiss it as fraudulent. If I'm serious about wanting to move onto something else, then I could just take you at your word, but I don't think I'm willing to do that.

What makes typology so poor in substance? Why is it not approaching the level of science? Why, basically, is it a waste of time?
The question you need to ask yourself is this:
why do you need typology to be true to make sense of the world around you and your place in it?
 

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The question you need to ask yourself is this:
why do you need typology to be true to make sense of the world around you and your place in it?
Need it to be true? I don't need it to be true any more than I would need the laws of motion to be true if I were a physicist. Because I've put so much effort into understanding typology, and I've seen it manifesting all over the place, it would be a bit strange if it turned out to not be true. I don't think it even could be shown to be false at this point with what I've seen. So it's just something that I believe with good reason to be true.

I continue on with it because I am making progress with it, and I believe this theory has some kinds of major implications for society. It's also just out of habit and interest.
 

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Yeah, I was obsessed with it for quite a while. Now it's just a way to explain things in a way people can understand. I realize that every humans brain is roughly the same (at least in how it works) but the processes that get it to work can be analyzed as having different patters which is why typology is useful.
 
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