Typology and Race

[Sanctum]

This is something that i thought about today, my friend brought it up. First of all I personally don't see race or at the very lease it doesn't matter to me, therefore i don't base decisions on it or come to conclusions based on it. But what I was thinking is that perhaps some personality types are more dominant with one race than another based primarily on culture and traditions. As an African American I can say that a Large percentage perhaps 90% of African Americans are in fact Extroverted, More Specifically ESXX, EXFX. One the other hand I know far more Caucasian Introverts but there are also a good number of extroverts so i would put them as 50/50. when it comes to Spanish Americans its almost the same as African Americans Extrovert Rate is in the higher numbers. And Finally Asian Americans Probably have the highest Introversion Rates probably 35% Extroverted and 65% Introverted. But this information is based on my personal experiences in my school and on the other hand I go to Visual and Performing arts school so that in some way may skew my analysis. What do you guys think.

 

[snafupants]

The proportion of black folk with the preference for sensing seems to be substantial.

 

[EyeSeeCold]

What do you guys think.

There hasn't been a comprehensive study performed yet that accurately grasped the statistics of types/preferences. We can't really know for certain whether the numbers are relatively equal, however I think for the most part that there's a social publicity bias in observations. If you're pulling data from what you observe at, for example, school or a movie theater, everyone will seem more extraverted causing a distortion over whether they're a habitual Extravert or Introvert, and all you will really be able to determine are the extreme Introverts( or extreme Extraverts).

Not to mention ingrained socio-cultural biases, there are tons of commonly accepted stereotypes of the differences in behaviors and thoughts between genders but many of them are unfounded or are moderate at best.

 

[pjoa09]

Is that ' hol' up ' in your signature?

Always got strong Se off of Africans I see.

 

[Sanctum]

Is that ' hol' up ' in your signature?

Yes it is 'Hol up" gotta Love Kendrick lamar

 

[pjoa09]

Yes it is 'Hol up" gotta Love Kendrick lamar

Love his flow.

 

[ObliviousGenius]

From my experience black people are Most E, S, F, and J. And an enormous tendency towards S and J. Makes my life hell I'll tell ya.

NPs are so rare that I always second guess myself when I read them.

I find whites/latinos harder to read. But they're more likely to be introverted than other races I think.

 

[PhoenixRising]

I think it's a cultural thing. Black and Hispanic cultures tend to emphasize family and place importance on being integrated into groups of friends more than white or Asian cultures do. White Western culture does put an emphasis on popularity, however there are a lot of counter cultures that favor introversion. Asian cultures, especially Chinese and Japanese, value overall society rather than the individual. They emphasize a humble attitude in which one tries their best not to stand out. This does lend itself to introversion.

 

[Anna Moss]

They've done studies on type and race on kids at various levels of school. From what the data seeeeem to indicate, there is a trend towards SP among African Americans. Hispanics didn't show any correlations. They've also found other differences related to culture and whatnot.

I'm not sure they're measuring real differences, though. For example, Keirsey postulated that America was settled by adventure-seeking SPs. That's not a genetic/racial characteristic so much as preferential sorting.

 

[pjoa09]

Dutch are NTs? In my experience.

 

[Dapper Dan]

They've done studies on type and race on kids at various levels of school. From what the data seeeeem to indicate, there is a trend towards SP among African Americans. Hispanics didn't show any correlations. They've also found other differences related to culture and whatnot.

If we assume that type is genetic, then this makes sense. African-Americans are unique among American nationalities in that they were essentially bred to have certain characteristics.

We do have to consider culture, though. As opposed to white culture, which is basically nonexistent, minority cultures probably have a significant effect on people's behavior.

 

[Anna Moss]

If we assume that type is genetic, then this makes sense. African-Americans are unique among American nationalities in that they were essentially bred to have certain characteristics.

I hadn't heard of that?

We do have to consider culture, though. As opposed to white culture, which is basically nonexistent, minority cultures probably have a significant effect on people's behavior.

It only seems like that from the inside. American white culture is studied and documented by anthropologists.

 

[Dapper Dan]

It only seems like that from the inside. American white culture is studied and documented by anthropologists.

Yeah, that was poorly worded. White culture obviously exists. But it doesn't really come with that sense of racial solidarity that you can find in other groups.

 

[Thurlor]

I was wondering about this exact same thing last night as I was cooking dinner. Afterwards I even did a little search on google for info but couldn't really find anything other than the musings of other INTP's.
I would be very surprised if there wasn't some sort of causal link between race and personality type. At the very least I would expect some sort of correlational link.

 

[Da Blob]

Yeah... but genetics and race are really two different topics in the U. S.. 75% of African Americans have a significant amount of European and/or Native American genetic material and 25% of the so-called White population has African and Native American genetic material. America really has been a Melting Pot of genetics. The Asian population, being the most recent group of immigrants, could be the best case for study.

I think when it comes down to genetics or environment concerning individual personality preferences, a pattern would be difficult to establish.

 

[Thurlor]

Yeah... but genetics and race are really two different topics in the U. S.. 75% of African Americans have a significant amount of European and/or Native American genetic material and 25% of the so-called White population has African and Native American genetic material. America really has been a Melting Pot of genetics. The Asian population, being the most recent group of immigrants, could be the best case for study.

I think when it comes down to genetics or environment concerning individual personality preferences, a pattern would be difficult to establish.

So why do we continue to refer to them with racial terms that are apparently no longer applicable? What percentage of negro/caucasian ancestory is required before one is no longer negro/caucasian but rather mixed race, hodge-podge or what ever else you want to call it? If half of my ancestors are black and half are white am I allowed to class myself as one or the other or does society expect me to be 'mixed race'?

I have never understood the people I have met here in Australia who claim they are Aboriginal or Koori when infact less than half their ancestors are actually Aboriginal. The nearest thing to a logical answer I have received is that they look like they are Aboriginals.

 

[Da Blob]

So why do we continue to refer to them with racial terms that are apparently no longer applicable? What percentage of negro/caucasian ancestory is required before one is no longer negro/caucasian but rather mixed race, hodge-podge or what ever else you want to call it? If half of my ancestors are black and half are white am I allowed to class myself as one or the other or does society expect me to be 'mixed race'?

I have never understood the people I have met here in Australia who claim they are Aboriginal or Koori when infact less than half their ancestors are actually Aboriginal. The nearest thing to a logical answer I have received is that they look like they are Aboriginals.

Politics!
as long as the leaders of African-American communities can convince anyone with a tad of African genetics as their heritage that they are indeed 'black', then they can maintain a power base, an 'Us black folk agin the slavers' mentality. It seems silly that a person with 7 Caucasian great grandparents and only one 'colored' great grandparent is classified legally as an African-American, with entitlements thereof (?) It is a racism applied from within, not from without...