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pjoa09

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Extremely Confrontational (he wages his 'wars' against customer service and confronts others for me even if I didn't ask him to)
Does Charity
Concerned about AIDS and Cancer as a threat and an epidemic
Very broad range of interests
Short Tempered
Takes serious issues too seriously
Quick to take offense from strangers (insults,not constructive criticism)
Very comfortable with metaphors (he can actually understand all of my metaphors)
Comfortable with greeting and meeting strangers
Into worldly issues
Critical
Hates mundane routine tasks (more than me)
Hates desk work
Hates change
Needs to consult and share information with others (makes decision on own)
Small actual group of friends, many acquaintances
Hates sitting on his own
Very disorganized and messy (despite his own attempts)
Hates complete solitude
Suspicious of others


Okay, that's all I got.

I have had difficulty typing him as he seems to have a foot in and outside of a door.

Trying typing from the characteristics first, the text below is of an event that will sway your opinion. I believe the characteristics are more important than a single event.

Why am I all of a sudden asking?

We were driving along the road and someone cut our path. I freaked out and yelled, swearing at the other driver. He got distracted and ran a red light. If an accident did occur it would've been minor.

He believes the best possible outcome would have been a crash and I am at fault for yelling. The reason? He wants the bad driver to pay. At least have the bad drivers insurance downgraded. Struck me as completely illogical and stupid. Vengeful.

Fine = 5 minutes, $15 (here it is)
Accident = 5 hours waiting and blocking the traffic, $0 (but possible mechanical damage)
 

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Sounds like an ES or EF but I'm thinking ENFJ.
 

pjoa09

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@EyeSeeCold hmm.. I think he has to be some P or really has ADHD. Honesty isn't really his thing either. He has typed ESFP but seems way more theoretical and ...

HOLY SHIT! ENFP!

Let me test that shit out.
 

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is he more like mark wahlberg (Fe dom, probably ESFj) or will smith (enfp)

"theoretical=N" = i disagree, theoretical might imply T though
"understands my metaphors=N" = i disagree, Si is particularly good at metaphors (unless, lemme see some of you metaphors, they might be N-specific)

deciding n vs s is often difficult using words/online.

but Ne dominant types are super curious and inquisive, asking you way more than you would like to share, the more you share, the more they ask. i don't think se doms do that, they cant visualise so many things about you, can't make anything out of it (possibilities). unless they ask you about things that are within the obvious realm S. like how did you do that, i want to do something like that too? or tell my how awesome your new car is....

enfp are usually somewhat kind. they can be very judgemental about moral offenders. they can also be arrogantly dismissive (look how he tries and fails, whuahah), but such judgements come without hard consequences. Fi tries to be somewhat gentle in the end. do unto others.... categorical imperative.

however i believe that you are describing someone who is angy at concept-offenders, meaning he is coming from stone cold self righteous Ti. goes well with enneagram 8ish behavior, in extp. but Ti can also be the shadow of Fe dominance.

"let's apply the full force of law to him, because the law allows it" that is a thinking type's rationalisation for being an angry shithead. anger is not Fi. Fi means being able to handle anger rather well. rationalizing it, finding an excuse to act it out is not "handling it well".

of course Te dominance applies laws too, but i would think it's more reasonable ("how would one generally handle such a situation?"), less opportunistic ("because we can")
 

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@nanook

Not an ESFJ, he hates mundane tasks. He just doesn't ever do them. He is ENFP but a confrontational hot tempered one.

Exactly ENFP but a punishing and confrontational ENFP.
 

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ENFJ

J = cricitcal
N = understands your metaphors
E = behavior is a people person
F = because he expresses his feelings, raw anger etc
 

pjoa09

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ENFJ

J = cricitcal
N = understands your metaphors
E = behavior is a people person
F = because he expresses his feelings, raw anger etc

Once again, not an honest guy. He has a facade for every stranger.
 

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Once again, not an honest guy. He has a facade for every stranger.

I forgot to add, quick-to-take-offense seems not so open-minded, so "J" type; but the messy/disorganized could err towards the P-type.
 

EyeSeeCold

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Once again, not an honest guy. He has a facade for every stranger.

Not sure if that discounts ENFJ. I still know nothing about the guy but if it's really down to ENF, in my experience ENFPs are much more hyper or spontaneous(not to rehash stereotypes as they can be mellow also), from ENFJ there's a controlled/disciplined, almost artificial nature to them.
 

pjoa09

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Not sure if that discounts ENFJ. I still know nothing about the guy but if it's really down to ENF, in my experience ENFPs are much more hyper or spontaneous(not to rehash stereotypes as they can be mellow also), from ENFJ there's a controlled/disciplined, almost artificial nature to them.

He is messy as hell though and on the profile it states that ENFJs blames themselves. Haven't seen much of humility or self-hatred.
 

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He is messy as hell though and on the profile it states that ENFJs blames themselves. Haven't seen much of humility or self-hatred.
This also. Messy is a common stereotype of J vs P, but I've come across ExFJs who don't take care of their workspaces, and ESFJs actually go so far as to be hypocritically obsessed about tidyness.

I guess you can also look at energy, EJs have a dogmatic flavor of energy when they are active contrasted with the casual energy of EPs.
 

pjoa09

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This also. Messy is a common stereotype of J vs P, but I've come across ExFJs who don't take care of their workspaces, and ESFJs actually go so far as to be hypocritically obsessed about tidyness.

I guess you can also look at energy, EJs have a dogmatic flavor of energy when they are active contrasted with the casual energy of EPs.

Well, he rarely makes the effort to stick with anything so he never truly steps on it and tries to get things the way he wants them to be. Often he'd be extremely assertive and then let go.

Really weird.

How is ENFJ going to be aggressive when their primary function is Fe? He has no concern for the awkwardness and disconnect of others?

But as I read it ENFJ seems more likely.
 

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Well, he rarely makes the effort to stick with anything so he never truly steps on it and tries to get things the way he wants them to be. Often he'd be extremely assertive and then let go.

Really weird.

How is ENFJ going to be aggressive when their primary function is Fe? He has no concern for the awkwardness and disconnect of others?

But as I read it ENFJ seems more likely.
I guess the main thing is whether he has no tact or method to his aggressiveness, and just gets upset(?) without really achieving anything, that is more likely EP. I agree that Fe might allow for a greater social intelligence, so yeah that kind of implies concern for social awkwardness and what not but in some ways FeNi is more "eccentric" than FeSi, though they always keep in mind their environment and they will subject their presented values / image to it, I don't think they'd ever be caught 'on the wrong team'.

I still don't really know the guy though, and ENFJ is just a guess from over here.
 
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