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I've never really gotten the hang of typing people - I guess I just don't have enough practice?
Anyway I stumbled on this site and was wondering if anybody can type this girl (so I know to avoid people like her at all costs) with maybe some reasoning behind your train of thought so I can learn.
I do realize that the information is biased since we never get to see the "good" side of this person, if there are any.

http://officeofstrategicinfluence.com/rachael/

EDIT: Upon further reading I realized it's possible to type the author as well. I wonder if he knows that he's letting on a lot more information about himself even though the whole page is about Rachael. :)
 

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That was really quite something.

Her type has a highly technical descriptor, "bitch." This personality type usually creates a desire to utter a formulaic incantation from time to time, along the lines of "Bite me."


He's not much better. I mean, somebody wants the common courtesy of "please" and "thank you" and he gets all indignant and takes it as a sign she's putting on airs of moral superiority? Whew. Just say "please," facryinowtlowd.

I'm glad they aren't neighbors. Isn't it curious how people like that could even get together? What, they were both drunk for two months?
 

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Too long; didn't read all.

Ran, I think its a Feeler vs. Thinker conflict. Do I have to prove this?

You can avoid Feelers if you want but I don't think there is a type to "avoid"; Though there are better types you can get along with.

All the other information are too biased.
 

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The avoiding part is just a side joke. I really just want to know what makes her tick. I avoid enough people in general already.

I know she's a senser, that bit is too obvious that even an inexperienced typer like me can see. But what else? Some of the things she did were not so dissimilar with my mother, and she's ENTP. Which sort of behaviors should I be looking at?

I'm not forcing anyone to read all of this. Franky I gave up about 3/4 down since he's just whining by then. A bit of "She reacted ___ly to ____ which is like the behavior of a/n ____" from the first few pages?
 

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I don't think the N/S is clear. She talked about the idea of "feeding the dog using the same dish" and about "societies' manipulation of beauty". What do you have to prove she uses Si or Se?

I can see Fi as her dominant function. I doubt she's any thinker.

Some of the things she did were not so dissimilar with my mother, and she's ENTP.
Such as? I highly doubt she's an ENTP.
 

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I'm not telling you, stalker! :P
All I can say is :eek:

I have to applaud that guy. There's no way I could have been as patient/forgiving/kind as him. I would have kicked her out through the window.
 

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No words... Sorry dude, but you are seriously out of your mind if you are trying to tell me that this woman is a P.

I'm still trying to crack this nut myself, but She is definitely use Fe on him, so I have it down to xxFJ.
 

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I'm not telling you, stalker! :P
No words... Sorry dude, but you are seriously out of your mind if you are trying to tell me that this woman is a P.

I'm still trying to crack this nut myself, but She is definitely use Fe on him, so I have it down to xxFJ.

Not to mention that she is very possessive and doesn't hesitate to show her feelings. She also seems to be very dogmatic and domineering, so it could be likely that she is an "E".

Also, I have no reason to believe that an "N" would behave like that. She seems to live in the "here and now" then in the future and doesn't seem to put much thought into her actions.

She does however, look deeply into the blogger's words, searches for hidden meanings and doesn't take it at face value, so there is a possibility that she is an "N". She also thinks too much about other people's actions and words (like me) so you could also say she has low self-esteem.

She is also very demanding. She seems to fit the description of an ESFJ, so that's what I'll type her as.
 

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I think she might just be an ENFJ, she is putting so much importance in social gestures, rituals, and societal values like "chivalry" and etiquette. She is also interpreting nearly everything this guy does as a slight against her. Not to mention she has terribly weak Ti, and it is just flawed logic rationalizing some poorly interpreted slight against her, like not looking at her for a few seconds. which indicates that Fe dominance is far more likely than not.

Wow just wow, this is the perfect example of a really fucked up Fe dominant, she is even saying things just to shock him into a fight, like "I hope a bee stings your dick and makes it bigger", this is a sign of a very mentally unhealthy Fe dominant.

So that is enough about her dominant function, let's see what is steering it...

Okay so far, I don't see very strong evidence of Si... but the way she is using random gestures to interpret this guy and doing or thinking something... it seems more like Ni to me in that she is just recognizing patterns and interpreting them, and not relating it to something that she knows from past experience.

Also, this woman seriously sounds like an even more fucked up version of my mom. She also seems to have this feminazi thing going on... Feminism is not an approach you would see with Si very often, but an ENFJ on the other hand, especially a fucked up with with an adversarial view toward men, would likely to see men in their Ni worldview as being what is wrong with the world and needs to be fixed. Again, I invoke my ENFJ Mom on this one, she says some of the same sexist garbage this woman is saying.

Yeah okay, I've read enough, I'm definitely going with ENFJ... ESFJs can be psycho, but it is in a mundane and predictable way, and not in this kind of way:
One night Rachael said "If I ever wanted to get back at you, know how I'd do it?"
I respond "no" because that's like, a really weird thing to talk about.
She said something to the effect of "I won't do it now, but this is what I'd do. I'd call the FBI and report you for child porn."
"What?" I asked in super disbelief.
"And you know how I'd do it?
"No," I said, not even wanting to imagine something that gross.
"I'd download it onto your computer when you weren't around. There's no way you would be able to defend yourself."


Also, the author of this site is the biggest tool in the fucking universe. I have no remorse for people who are stupid enough to stay in relationships with people who are so abusive, and so disturbed that they shouldn't even be in the same room as them.
 

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Wow just wow, this is the perfect example of a really fucked up Fe dominant, she is even saying things just to shock him into a fight, like "I hope a bee stings your dick and makes it bigger", this is a sign of a very mentally unhealthy Fe dominant.

So dominant doesn't mean "healthy"? I've always thought inferior(tertiary and inferior) functions were the "unhealthy" ones.


Does this imply that:

1. Fe dominant users could be as ineffective as Fe inferior users?

2. Ni dominant users could be as ineffective as Ni inferior users?

-Does this also imply that an Ni Dominant could be weak at connections and an Ni inferior could be strong?

-What do you mean by "healthy"?
 

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So dominant doesn't mean "healthy"? I've always thought inferior(tertiary and inferior) functions were the "unhealthy" ones.


Does this imply that:

1. Fe dominant users could be as ineffective as Fe inferior users?

2. Ni dominant users could be as ineffective as Ni inferior users?

-Does this also imply that an Ni Dominant could be weak at connections and an Ni inferior could be strong?

-What do you mean by "healthy"?
Okay first of all, "Inferior" in NO WAY, SHAPE, OR FORM is equal to "unhealthy."

Everyone has an inferior function, even the most developed and healthy of personalities still has to have an inferior on the end in order to function at all.

Dominant function, in short means the function that you are most stimulated by using.

1. and 2. Ineffective in what way?

3. Your dominant function is only as strong as all of your other function. You can't be a healthy personality if your Dominant Ni is strong, and everything else sucks. If your other functions are weak, then they pull the dominant down with them. So to answer your question, yes, if the Ni dom is very weak somewhere else. and the second part about Ni inferior: It will always be an inferior function, this means it will always be the lowest priority, and it will always be used in service of the functions higher than it. So while it could be developed to be stronger than other types with Ni inferior, it will never function like types that have it higher than that.

4. I probably worded this wrong when I said "Unhealthy Fe" It would have been more accurate to just say "Unhealthy ENFJ", because she is in constant grip and it is causing her to lash out every few seconds and be ridiculously over sensitive and insecure... I think you can agree that people are not supposed to act this way. That is why she is unhealthy.
 

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Okay first of all, "Inferior" in NO WAY, SHAPE, OR FORM is equal to "unhealthy."
When(INTP) exposing inferior Fe(being the less used), isn't there a tendency to cause overemotional outcries for INTP's? Isn't that unhealthy?

1. and 2. Ineffective in what way?
Ineffective for the cognitives' use? I'd imagine an Fe dominant would have the best ability to deal with people in general.

3. Your dominant function is only as strong as all of your other function. You can't be a healthy personality if your Dominant Ni is strong, and everything else sucks. If your other functions are weak, then they pull the dominant down with them. So to answer your question, yes, if the Ni dom is very weak somewhere else. and the second part about Ni inferior: It will always be an inferior function, this means it will always be the lowest priority, and it will always be used in service of the functions higher than it. So while it could be developed to be stronger than other types with Ni inferior, it will never function like types that have it higher than that.
But in the case of this woman, Who has "better" Fe, the "insensitive" man or the more "insensitive" woman?

4. I probably worded this wrong when I said "Unhealthy Fe" It would have been more accurate to just say "Unhealthy ENFJ", because she is in constant grip and it is causing her to lash out every few seconds and be ridiculously over sensitive and insecure... I think you can agree that people are not supposed to act this way. That is why she is unhealthy.
Which cognitive do you think is most responsible for this "unhealthy" behavior? or which pair?

Is it Fe itself that's causing this? Is it weak Ni manifesting itself into Fe? Or is Ti involved? Is it right to blame Fe or not?
 

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When(INTP) exposing inferior Fe(being the less used), isn't there a tendency to cause overemotional outcries for INTP's? Isn't that unhealthy?
Every time you open your mouth to speak, you are exposing your Fe, every time you smile at a person, you are exposing your Fe. The stress that it takes to push an INTP over the edge of an Fe outburst is unhealthy, but our uses of Fe are far more than just outbursts.

Ineffective for the cognitives' use? I'd imagine an Fe dominant would have the best ability to deal with people in general.
That is true assuming they are not dealing with a bunch of Ti doms, and that they are not emotionally unstable.


But in the case of this woman, Who has "better" Fe, the "insensitive" man or the more "insensitive" woman?
Better is not a good word to use in this case, it has no meaning in this context. The Woman's Fe is developed more, it is just unstable.


Which cognitive do you think is most responsible for this "unhealthy" behavior? or which pair?
I think most of this has to do with damaged Ti, which creates discord and instability in all other functions. Maybe this is partly the man's fault because he has been pushing on her Ti inferior, and maybe it is because of her upbringing and a whole history of having her Ti pushed on to unhealthy levels. Either way, it has given her an adversarial outlook toward Ti, which is why she freaks out when he withdrawals from Fe, and is causing her Fe to be over sensitive to triggers. This is also causing her Ni to see patterns that are not actually there, and her Ti rationalize this in ways that are just completely ridiculous.

Is it Fe itself that's causing this? Is it weak Ni manifesting itself into Fe? Or is Ti involved?

See above
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How much does the "dominant factor" affect the Fe's stability? Would it be more likely to find an unstable inferior Fe than a dominant Fe?
 

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How much does the "dominant factor" affect the Fe's stability? Would it be more likely to find an unstable inferior Fe than a dominant Fe?
It doesn't affect it... A personality becomes unstable do to stress and being in the grip, not because they simply have that function.

And no.
 

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I only skimmed through a couple, but I think I recognised Fe (as above), Ni and Se. Her societal rants could indicate Ni, right? And the "pushing the limits" provocation seems to be Se. xNFJ?

Of course, I could be spewing complete crap.
 

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I only skimmed through a couple, but I think I recognised Fe (as above), Ni and Se. Her societal rants could indicate Ni, right? And the "pushing the limits" provocation seems to be Se. xNFJ?

Of course, I could be spewing complete crap.
Actually the "Pushing the limits" thing is Fe again. When an Fe dom is really mentally unhealthy, or "gripped up" if you will, they often say things just to shock people (In the case of this woman, super evil things), just because Fe is looking for an emotional reaction of some kind out of the person.
 
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