@salmoneus I sort of know what I'm doing with it. It's probably var. flavivolvata, maybe formosa but I doubt it, also doubt it's muscaria muscaria. But I guess the community is trying to call any species found in America Amanita amerimuscaria, which can I guess prevent confusion or help make certain things more clear. It might actually be safer than alcohol. I don't want to see that film, but what country is that from?
I've been looking into it for a few years and it doesn't really seem that poisonous. A lot of people consume it, which of course doesn't mean it's safe or anything... I've heard tales that many cases of poisoning or death could be due to confusion with another similar Amanita or the nausea could be due to eating raw specimens and/or maggots & maggot feces, which seems plausible.
There's some suggested method behind it which much of the groundwork has been laid before, and some equipment might still be necessary to double check. The idea is that the main ingredients are "ibotenic acid" and "muscimol" and basically heating a sample up converts the toxic ibotenic acid into the less toxic muscimol, and it's this muscimol which causes intoxication. I suppose many reports simply state the subject feels an odd sedative and nauseating effect but some literature here and there suggest the feeling can be as intense as an LSD trip, complete with proper hallucination, which basically can be fun, interesting, and/or enlightening. It all, apparently, depends on the preparation method and potency of specimen (is there a way to check this?), plus there are rumors that this species includes a reverse tolerance effect in which the more one tries it the stronger it becomes. Sounds somewhat plausible I suppose.
So the thing is it was surprising to find these in such a local location. Sure in our state and climate we can get many species of psilocybe but those require a modest amount of traveling from where we are currently located, no biggie. We also do get Amanita muscaria but, again, typically further up north in forests and woods, not in such a backyard locale. But, I guess so, and a couple other people found them as well, they might be more widespread than previously believed. Of course, you can always order them off the internet as well.
Like I said I sauteed them and they were delicious then 30 or so minutes later I felt nauseous. I fell asleep then someone woke me up and I bumped into walls a couple times but that could have been because I just woke up rather than being slightly intoxicated. I also made a tea, then cooled it, and when I drank it I ended up feeling like I was going to vomit, but I didn't really feel high. Maybe, you know, it wasn't cooked enough so as to properly convert the substances?
I'm starting to think this variety isn't as active as the traditional variety but I'd also like to refrain from thinking the vibrancy of the red cap is an indicator of potency; etc. I heard someone from Europe say that he thinks the kind found in America are stronger than the European variety though. There also might not be any reason to believe there are significant differences between specimens just based off the fact they are found on different continents, nutritional value of substrate notwithstanding... but whatever. It's also starting to seem like marijuana exists just to provide a convenient accessible way of getting high, which of course isn't the case..
@bronto, how did you ingest it? out of curiosity
@lot, a lot of people say the active ingredients are preserved in the urine so after they ingest it they go ahead and ingest the urine to make the trip stronger. Some people claim it works. We supposedly have some psilocybin containing species over here but it's easier to go to the Bay area to find them. I do realize I made some odd facial expressions in there but I don't think I do that often if ever in real life...
