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Tips and tricks for absorbing concepts in math?

dark+matters

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Hello! I spent several years in the working world, and I'm really struggling to absorb some more concepts in math now that I'm back in school. However, I am having a very hard time retaining the ideas I need to in detail. Any advice? I've begun taking some serious notes and journaling for each lesson. That helps, but I'm still struggling to remain focused and to feel confident in my ability to work each type of problem. My social life and personal relationships are all in complete turmoil, but I would like to be able to concentrate and learn anyway.

Advice?
 

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What kind of math problems are you studying right now?

I guess in my case, it really helped being intrigued by math, and a yearning to fully understand how it all works on a deep level, and imagining how the concepts can be used in my personal projects.

I heard someone say that the older you get, the harder it is to retain information. Hopefully you are still young?
 

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What kind of math problems are you studying right now?

I guess in my case, it really helped being intrigued by math, and a yearning to fully understand how it all works on a deep level, and imagining how the concepts can be used in my personal projects.

I heard someone say that the older you get, the harder it is to retain information. Hopefully you are still young?

I do think it must be harder to retain information as one gets older, especially as there's so much more to occupy one's mind. I'm in my later twenties.

I'm very interested in learning math, as I secretly believe that all the major truths about the universe are locked in there somewhere. I see math as an escape at this point in my life, but it's very challenging for me. An interesting challenge is something else I'm looking for at this point in my life. I'm very dissatisfied with many aspects of my prior work/school experiences and would like to train for something that I can enjoy in the long-haul. I'm aiming for a career in physics at this point.

I'm doing two pre-calculus classes while being extremely distracted by family issues, housing and financial issues, and two theater classes that are going very, very badly for me. Both of these math classes are centered around graphs at the moment. I find it a lot harder to find help for graphing problems. I'll go onto wolframalpha.com, which I usually find really helpful, and I get nothing. :kodama1:
 

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My social life and personal relationships are all in complete turmoil, but I would like to be able to concentrate and learn anyway.

Advice?
My advice is to fix these problems first. "Complete turmoil" isn't going to permit you to get other things done.
 

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-family issues
-housing and finances
-future plans
-school work

Some suggestions that may or may not help:
- Set a time to calmly explain and communicate with family in a civil manner and agree on a solution for issues

- Brainstorm some ideas on managing your finances and your living arrangements, and setup a good plan

- Perhaps there are job coaches you can talk to for free in your area?

- Once the other problems are more strategically handled, and under your belt, perhaps it would be easier to focus on school work?

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Now, what I suggested may not be helpful at all. But I find what can help (in things where a complex issue arises), to write down a concise list of all the things that need to be worked on, plus any relevant information pertaining to them, and to brainstorm strategies to tackle them. Having a strategy eliminates uncertainty, and could null out the tension associated with the conflicts. Be sure to prioritize what's most important.

-Tension and stress

Be sure to set time for yourself daily; a time for chill-out mode. Whatever puts you in a relaxed state of mind, whether its kicking back on the couch, coffee break, window-shopping, etc. It helps shrink your problems, and gives your subconscious a part in working things out in the background.
 

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dark+matters said:
I'm very dissatisfied with many aspects of my prior work/school experiences
heh reminds me of this thread

TMills27 said:
to write down a concise list of all the things that need to be worked on, plus any relevant information pertaining to them, and to brainstorm strategies to tackle them.
I can recommend this one. The way I figure why this works: your mind obsesses over information and ideas that might(or not) be needed later-on, breaking your focus in the process. By writing it down(not necessarily on paper, use a .txt file) your subconscious will have no reason to obsess because you can always "look it up" later...

dark+matters said:
I am having a very hard time retaining the ideas I need to in detail
"retain" is the wrong attitude. lower math is not a new thing you need to memorize - it is how your subconscious already works! and you're trying to become aware of it. related thread.

dark+matters said:
but I'm still struggling (...) to feel confident in my ability to work each type of problem
confidence comes from seeing limits of a concept. this is the last step after awareness and application.

dark+matters said:
I find it a lot harder to find help for graphing problems.

Just ask specifics here, some INTP will surely have a compatible insight
have fun!
 

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The most prominent tip is perhaps to take less classes whenever math is on the schedule, especially since you have personal troubles outside of classes. Also, you can speak with your professor during office hours and ask for some tips on understanding the concepts. Third, study group/tutoring.

I don't know how detailed your note taking process is, but I'd suggest creating example problems with step-by-step guides to solving and writing reminder remarks about certain steps that are tricky. In making those example problems, figure out what is their most archetypal form, so that you can refer back to them easily and just basically plug in the new variables. Also create note cards of laws, rules and formulas sorted by topic.


Do you already have a WolframAlpha subscription? If not check these out:
WolframAlpha offers their Mathematica software for free for some colleges, the program can substitute for their paywalled online service. (Microsoft has their own too which is worth checking out).



Of course your home life situation also needs to be resolved but perhaps that needs another thread to fully delve into?
 

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TMills- thanks for the suggestions. I've been writing down some plans for taking care of what's been bothering me, and slowly but surely, the list is starting to shrink down. I do agree with Teax, that the act of writing it all down somewhere makes those issues less prone to popping up intrusively during study sessions, etc.

I've especially made it a point to start taking chill out time more seriously. (Wait... or do I mean less seriously?) I'm making it a point to let go of that desire to be productive 24/7 without any regard to how important play and relaxation is. I'm also going to let go of obsessing over shortening my college journey. It's going to take me forever, especially if I want to change my career course again. I need to get over it and take fewer credits. I have a "P..." *shrug*

"retain" is the wrong attitude. lower math is not a new thing you need to memorize - it is how your subconscious already works! and you're trying to become aware of it. related thread.


confidence comes from seeing limits of a concept. this is the last step after awareness and application.

These are interesting ideas! I checked out the thread cited, and this mulling over concepts until they become obvious and then throwing it all out the window is exactly what I am craving in math and the sciences.

I've been pursuing math this semester in the hopes that my subconscious will "break-into" the right mode of thinking about it after a while. I remember how long it took to wrap my brain around how my former majors worked. I can recall definite "clicks" in basic understandings of the subconscious bases of operations for some of these fields after about a year or two of working at them.

My advice is to fix these problems first. "Complete turmoil" isn't going to permit you to get other things done.

*sigh* I think this is true. Unfortunately, I'm spending a vast chunk of my semester trying to find a new apartment, figuring out how the new university works, hiring movers, trying to cope with the recent loss of a parent, losing one or two very close relationships, having serious problems dealing with certain people at my college, quitting the old job, sick pet, taking far, far too much care of the grieving parent who is still alive, etc. I just can't focus well right now. I'm upset all day and then I have nightmares. LOL! I did manage to find a new apartment, I'm going to be getting away from the people causing me problems, I am a lot more oriented to how the college works, and my financial situation is semi-stable, so I can see the next semester going better for me, but it's hard getting to that better place.

The most prominent tip is perhaps to take less classes whenever math is on the schedule, especially since you have personal troubles outside of classes. Also, you can speak with your professor during office hours and ask for some tips on understanding the concepts. Third, study group/tutoring.

I'm implementing all these suggestions and it's been going well. I registered for fewer credits next semester, and I'll use note cards next semester too, probably (especially since that will be my first physics class). I wish I'd begun taking notes earlier in the semester. It would have made studying for tests waaaay easier. My college has group tutoring and access to WolframAlpha stuff that I do not, so I basically just hang out there whenever I can.

Of course your home life situation also needs to be resolved but perhaps that needs another thread to fully delve into?

Mmmmm, I don't see my family situation resolving anytime soon, or ever, possibly. If I can get the other stuff resolved though, there will be ways to work around the family issues.

Thanks for all the responses! I'm going to keep plugging away at learning the maths... three tests this week... :storks:
 

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Two things that has helped me tremendously in absorbing math:

1. If you're INTP, or might be, dealing with inferior Fe is paramount. Otherwise, it will pull you away from the state of abstraction you need to be in for doing math. It tells you that math is useless, or that you there are other things to attend to (usually involving other people). Before I was aware of it, math was painful. After, I was surprised by how much sense it made.

2. Learn the concepts backwards. Most math books and courses use the "build up" method, giving you the basics first, and accruing details until they can hit you with the big idea. I passed my calc courses with such an approach but didn't really get it until I took time to understand the fundamental theorem, and to use physical analogs. For me, water in a bucket with a hole in it made the concepts concrete, and from that physical intuition I could readily absorb techniques.

Best of luck
 

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