Thread split from "my perspective on being INTP"

[Tannhauser]

I took valproate when my shrink diagnosed me with dysthymia in my early twenties. Thankfully I stopped it. It's a short term solution. The permanent cure to depression is the following:

1) Cease all masturbation. You will have greater strength, emotional resilience, and energy. Seriously, nothing is more important for a man.
2) Consult an Ayurvedic physician trained in India.
3) Eat a diet as prescribed by said physician, and make sure you adopt all appropriate lifestyle changes.
4) Meditation for 30 minutes a day.
5) Last but not least, realize that every single negative thought and emotion that assails you comes out of your inferior function, Fe. Its associated neural networks are located in the left frontal lobe of the brain. The key is to basically draw a perimeter around that part of your brain and exclusively engage in activities that make use of Ti-Ne-Si. You want to live in Ti-Ne, which is to say the right hemisphere of your brain. Some activities that do this in a healthy way include programming, reading, and studying.

My theory is that Fe is accumulating as semen in the body. Jack off for a stronger Ti-Ne.

 

[Ex-User (9086)]

Re: My perspective on being an INTP and developing a stable identity

My theory is that Fe is accumulating as semen in the body. Jack off for a stronger Ti-Ne.

I hear there are clinics specialising in typological surgery. For a modest fee they offer to remove all unwanted parts of the brain and help prevent the spread of Fe.

All of their operations are overseen by the master-level Ayurvedic practitioners after they received their final blessing from the holy trinity of Jung-Myers-Keirsey and who haven't masturbated for at least 38 years.

If we are not careful, we can theorize so much that our identity itself becomes a theory and our real selves never become a reality. We become as intangible as wind and invisible to the world.

Being as intangible as the wind and invisible to the world is a great goal to strive for.

 

[Ex-User (9086)]

Re: My perspective on being an INTP and developing a stable identity

Well I think so. Just imagine what you could do if you were wind, and no one can see you.

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I like that. There may be hope for me yet.

I was envisioning a fully incorporeal being immersed in the net, among some alternative favourable states of existence.

edit: Huh, too late for deletion , I saw your post, thereby I claim the right to quote it to have my response retain a semblance of sense.

 

[Urakro]

Re: My perspective on being an INTP and developing a stable identity

I was envisioning a fully incorporeal being immersed in the net, among some alternative favourable states of existence.

edit: Huh, too late for deletion , I saw your post, thereby I claim the right to quote it to have my response retain a semblance of sense.

That's ok. I learned a new word from it. -incorporeal

 

[Inquisitor]

Re: My perspective on being an INTP and developing a stable identity

I'm pretty sure the epididymis and testicle use up resources to maintain the maximal amount of spermatozoa and constantly produce new ones, a process that takes several months. During that time the body reabsorbs the old spermatozoa making place for new ones.

Your argument is pretty baseless. Unless you want to say that less than a few million absorbed every day is a noticeable saving, which it obviously seems not.

There are lots of valid reasons to avoid masturbation, though all of them arise from personal needs and not some general health concerns applicable to the entire male population.

Are you male or female?

 

[Inquisitor]

Re: My perspective on being an INTP and developing a stable identity

My theory is that Fe is accumulating as semen in the body. Jack off for a stronger Ti-Ne.

Bitter much?

 

[Minuend]

Re: My perspective on being an INTP and developing a stable identity

Are you male or female?

Let me guess, if Blarraun's female she has no idea what she's talking about and will be immediately put in the same box as people below age 30, non-INTPS and other people without degrees or similar external variables you consider valid as authority.

I was talking to my doctor, a male in his 50s, he said we should check for celiac. I wondered if that would be useful as I hadn't eaten grains for more than a year and still had symptoms. His reply was that if I did had celiac, I'd get an amount of money from the government to cover some food expenses, and over the years that would amount to a lot of money. So his reasoning for me taking a test for which my symptoms didn't add up, was the prospect of getting money. All hail the infallible wisdom of people 30+ with degrees who's also probably INTP.

 

[Inquisitor]

Re: My perspective on being an INTP and developing a stable identity

Let me guess, if Blarraun's female she has no idea what she's talking about and will be immediately put in the same box as people below age 30, non-INTPS and other people without degrees or similar external variables you consider valid as authority.

You got it. I don't pretend to know what menstruation feels like. I think Blarraun is a man though, but with the girly avatars, I thought it safe to ask first. I never once argued that INTPs are the only or even best sources of authority. Don't know where you're getting that.

I was talking to my doctor, a male in his 50s, he said we should check for celiac. I wondered if that would be useful as I hadn't eaten grains for more than a year and still had symptoms. His reply was that if I did had celiac, I'd get an amount of money from the government to cover some food expenses, and over the years that would amount to a lot of money. So his reasoning for me taking a test for which my symptoms didn't add up, was the prospect of getting money. All hail the infallible wisdom of people 30+ with degrees who's also probably INTP.

Wow. You met a doctor who was trying to help you out by potentially getting you government benefits you weren't aware of and he's a fool for doing that? Norway is basically socialist so getting government benefits is not as frowned on as it is here, especially since your country is swimming in money.

Fact is, you still trust your doctor b/c he's a doctor and since he's in his 50s, he's likely been in practice long enough to know what he's talking about and you trust his judgement b/c of that. Gluten does not necessarily only have to come from eating grains. You may be getting it from other sources. That's another piece of the logic there that also probably escaped your notice b/c you were too busy being an idiot.

 

[Minuend]

Re: My perspective on being an INTP and developing a stable identity

You did miss the point. The doctor didn't provide any logical health reason for me to do the procedure. And of course I don't trust him. He wants me to go through a procedure which is partially supported by government money (meaning wasted money) because that's the procedure they do with everyone regardless of probability of having that illness. I don't have celiac, I don't even react to gluten the way celiacs do.

I make all my food, I never buy any "finished" products, neither do I eat out or even at other people's houses. So I fail to see where I should get gluten from. Also, I already did know of the benefit, but even if I had celiac I'd find it dubious to take money from the government when food doesn't even need to be more expensive. It's not like the government is a endless supply of free money where you should try to grab everything you can. So yeah, I consider it mostly a useless benefit for most people.

Well, at least you get to call other people idiots for disagreeing with you, so you got that going for you.

 

[Inquisitor]

Re: My perspective on being an INTP and developing a stable identity

No, I didn't miss the point. You used your experience with that physician as a rationale for why people older and more experienced than you are generally not to be trusted. You're just a rebel.

 

[Minuend]

Re: My perspective on being an INTP and developing a stable identity

Eh, no. I used it to show that even older people with authority can be fallible.

 

[Grayman]

Re: My perspective on being an INTP and developing a stable identity

No, I didn't miss the point. You used your experience with that physician as a rationale for why people older and more experienced than you are generally not to be trusted. You're just a rebel.

Are you senile or are you just one of those arrogant old farts who doesn't know how to properly influence/interact with the youth?

 

[Inquisitor]

Re: My perspective on being an INTP and developing a stable identity

Eh, no. I used it to show that even older people with authority can be fallible.

From what I read, your doctor didn't make any mistakes. He was just doing his job. A lack of testing is far more problematic in this case than the miniscule potential savings from a tissue transglutaminase and serum IgA blood test. Better safe than sorry. The same thing would have been done in the US. 1% of people have celiac, so it's not an insignificant number. Also, since gluten-free food tends to be more expensive, the rationale for government benefits actually exists.

It's not relevant to the thread topic in any case. It's a poor justification for the fallibility of authority figures.

Are you senile or are you just one of those arrogant old farts who doesn't know how to properly influence/interact with the youth?

Apparently I'm the latter. Either that or the youth here are a bunch of rebellious fools with their heads up their asses. Maybe rejecting all authority is a rite of passage for INTPs and it's only later that they finally come around to respect the accomplishments/expertise of authority figures. Specialization exists for a reason.

 

[Grayman]

Re: My perspective on being an INTP and developing a stable identity

Apparently I'm the latter. Either that or the youth here are a bunch of rebellious fools with their heads up their asses. Maybe rejecting all authority is a rite of passage for INTPs and it's only later that they finally come around to respect the accomplishments/expertise of authority figures. Specialization exists for a reason.

To an extent the youth are rebellious and that is natural and will continue to occur but you can alter your interaction to account for this and produce better outcomes. Browbeating and insulting digs in the heels and makes people want to oppose you. Gentle guidance is more effective.

But who am I kidding it isn't like you had real useful advice to offer anyways.

 

[Inquisitor]

Re: My perspective on being an INTP and developing a stable identity

To an extent the youth are rebellious and that is natural and will continue to occur but you can alter your interaction to account for this and produce better outcomes. Browbeating and insulting digs in the heals and makes people want to oppose you. Gentle guidance is more effective.

But who am I kidding it isn't like you had real useful advice to offer anyways.

Nastiness.

 

[Minuend]

Re: My perspective on being an INTP and developing a stable identity

Spoiler

From what I read, your doctor didn't make any mistakes. He was just doing his job. A lack of testing is far more problematic in this case than the miniscule potential savings from a tissue transglutaminase and serum IgA blood test. Better safe than sorry. The same thing would have been done in the US. 1% of people have celiac, so it's not an insignificant number. Also, since gluten-free food tends to be more expensive, the rationale for government benefits actually exists.

It's not relevant to the thread topic in any case. It's a poor justification for the fallibility of authority figures.

You can't confirm it with a blood test, the procedure for it is more expensive than that. I've taken the blood test twice and it was negative, he still wants to do the same old procedure. For someone who nags about other people not knowing anything, you certainly don't know much yourself. (It will probably be possible to confirm it via blood testing in a few years though).

You don't need to eat "gluten free food" meaning replacement food where they replace wheat. you can eat other foods like vegetables, nuts, meats, rice, beans etc. So it doesn't have to be more expensive. I know the rationale, and it might've be rational back some years, but today the abundance of diverse foods makes it unnecessary

Regardless, notice how adamantly you are defending his case. Is it really unthinkable for you that there is one doctor out there somewhere who's not doing the best job?

Apparently I'm the latter. Either that or the youth here are a bunch of rebellious fools with their heads up their asses. Maybe rejecting all authority is a rite of passage for INTPs and it's only later that they finally come around to respect the accomplishments/expertise of authority figures. Specialization exists for a reason.

So apparently "older people with authority can be fallible" = "I shall never listen to any older authority whatsoever and I shall always do ze exact opposite"

Do you notice yourself how more aggressive and tight gripped you become the more difficulty you have with arguing an opponents arguments? The moment you find yourself at loss, you go for someones type, age, lack of authority. Or just downright insults. Hmm, I guess you don't know my age, type or education, so insults it is.

 

[redbaron]

I used to think Inquisitor was a real moron but I understand now. He hasn't rubbed one out for more than 10 years. Sheesh, no wonder he's so grumpy all the time!