Therapists say the strangest things

[Black Rose]

With my therapist last week, I said something to the effect that I want to know what the cause of my mental illness is.

My therapist said: "Could that be part of your mental illness?".

In the group session, I said I get fear sensations when half asleep and half awake for 10 minutes.

It is in my spine guts and head.

My psychiatrist doctor said they did not understand what I was talking about.

They said fear only happens when you are fully awake, let's do a sleep study.

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There is a problem in psychiatry: It only works in big cities with good doctors who can do real tests.

Anywhere else they give you pills every two weeks randomly to see what happens.

That happened to my roommate in the 90's, now they refuse to take any pills.

The pills they took made them dead inside, with no emotions or feelings.

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The depression medications are making me sleep more.

But then the anxiety is gone.

If I tell the therapist or the doctor they will stop the medications and the anxiety will come back.

I do not want that to happen so I will not tell them.

 

[Black Rose]

Real tests are paramount to knowing what meds to give a patient.

Normal people go to work and have to use their brains sometimes to get tasks done.

The program I am in happens to be for mentally disabled people mostly.

So, knowing what is happening to them is not that important, as long as meds don't make them worse.

These people just watch TV all day so if they can do this then the meds work.

Otherwise, they get depressed and go to the hospital, so the meds did not work.

It is a simple system. Keep people medicated so they can watch TV.

Otherwise, I cannot say why those other people take the meds.

 

[Black Rose]

I live by myself.

Not in a group home.

 

[Hadoblado]

I don't know why they would dismiss your experience of fear during sleep. That's stupid. There are a lot of known issues surrounding that. Do they not believe in nightmares? WTF?

Regarding the comment about wanting to know what's wrong with yourself, there is something to it being mental illness (you obsess over your own limitations), but at the same time if you have limitations it's not mental illness to acknowledge or be frustrated by them. It's a tricky area but basically your life would be a lot better if didn't spend so much bandwidth on being overly self-aware.

Perspective stuff is really hard to get out of especially when it's deeply ingrained. I don't think reducing it to watching tv vs. going to hospital is gonna help you. What I can say is that if you work towards making your life better then a lot of those difficulties don't seem so important.

 

[Black Rose]

When I took the ADD meds the anxiety went away.

When I took the depression meds the anxiety went away more.

The problem with doctors is that these meds are not for anxiety so they are not prescribed for anxiety so the anxiety persists because doctors are stupid because the system is stupid. - they work but not for what they prescribed them for so lest take them away? let's give you something else, and see you in three weeks.

Limitations are ok I guess, not having money does limit what you can eat.

And it means you cannot see real doctors who do the real tests.

That is not a problem since fNIRS will become available like touch-phones became available and VR headsets. -(100 teraflop processors would be able to tell you many things about the brain, no doctor required)

 

[Cognisant]

Most people spend their entire lives learning how to regulate their thoughts and emotions, to be self aware of their own nature, their tendencies and disposition.

Imo unless something is very fucking wrong nobody should be taking mind altering medication, it's like taking meth for social anxiety, sure that'll work but it creates other problems.

Alcohol, caffine and nicotine all have some positive affects but ultimately you body adapts to the drug, creating a dependancy and leaving you worse off than before.

 

[Puffy]

Most people spend their entire lives learning how to regulate their thoughts and emotions, to be self aware of their own nature, their tendencies and disposition.

Imo unless something is very fucking wrong nobody should be taking mind altering medication, it's like taking meth for social anxiety, sure that'll work but it creates other problems.

Alcohol, caffine and nicotine all have some positive affects but ultimately you body adapts to the drug, creating a dependancy and leaving you worse off than before.

It's true, people using psychiatric medications form dependencies on them and the withdrawal from them is notoriously hard because of it. They should be used because other strategies haven't worked and not as the first solution.

I used to be anti-medications until I reached a point when I needed them. I'd tried everything I knew from 6 years of therapeutic work to shift out of the black hole I was in and just couldn't pull myself out.

I think the point of using them is to give someone the space to improve their lives and do their own inner work on an easier difficulty level and then to wean off at the capacity they can manage.

Most doctors wouldn't take you off now the anxiety has stopped AK as it's obviously because the medication is working. They will normally think about discussing reducing your dose in around 6 months from now.