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scorpiomover

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Because science is about why.
Science cannot answer "why". You can only know "why" something exists, by asking the creator of the thing why he/she created it, and listening to his/her answer.

Most of education is not about why.
Its about how.
Science can answer "how". You can do some experiments and see how gravity works.
 

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Science cannot answer "why". You can only know "why" something exists, by asking the creator of the thing why he/she created it, and listening to his/her answer.
Correct.
Science can answer "how". You can do some experiments and see how gravity works.
Correct.
But we can always ask questions like why does something happen.
Such as why does a cloud in the sky move.
Then we can figure out why.
So we certainly use the why for science questions.
I think context of why is important.
We can ask the "why" and then we can ask the "WHY OH WHY" if you know what I mean.
 

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But we can always ask questions like why does something happen.

Such as why does a cloud in the sky move.
Then we can figure out why.
Sure. But then we are often asking "WHEN does a cloud move and WHEN does a cloud NOT move", which often answers the question of immediate causation, but not what ultimately made the cloud move in the first place.

It's like if you won the lottery, and lots of pretty girls start flirting with you. You might think WHY are those girls flirting with me? It must be that girls like money.

Then you go out with a few of them on a date, spend lots of money, but act like a jerk, and they all tell you to get lost.

Then you meet someone who says you remind her of someone she fell in love with at the age of 18, and she asks if you want to have sex with her.
 

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Sure. But then we are often asking "WHEN does a cloud move and WHEN does a cloud NOT move", which often answers the question of immediate causation, but not what ultimately made the cloud move in the first place.

It's like if you won the lottery, and lots of pretty girls start flirting with you. You might think WHY are those girls flirting with me? It must be that girls like money.

Then you go out with a few of them on a date, spend lots of money, but act like a jerk, and they all tell you to get lost.

Then you meet someone who says you remind her of someone she fell in love with at the age of 18, and she asks if you want to have sex with her.
I was working the semantics, but you made a good point.
We can draw often wrong conclusions.
 

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Science is high resolution reality.
But science can ask questions about anything.
Drilling down to bits and explaining how it works is hard.
That is where science begins with methods of uncovering the truth.

However scientific minds that want to know the truth, but also look for it in unlikely places, minds that can question conventions, or even established truths, or minds that can challenge truth that are considered truth etc....
Essentially one needs a mind that can look at things from different vantage points, but also mind that can be prone to err.
We often want the sanitized version of science.
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We do not know why causality happens. yet it does.

event one precedes event two and so on.

this might mean that events happen for a reason.

because what prevents it all from just stopping?
 

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Excerpted from the link below which is a book being published about how Trump knew all about Covid before it began:

Nevertheless, after the COVID-19 outbreak begins in the United States, President Trump will falsely declare that “nobody knew there would be a pandemic or epidemic of this proportion” and “nobody ever thought of numbers like this.”6 In fact, writes the New York Times in March 2020, “his own administration had already modeled a similar pandemic and understood its potential trajectory” and “accurately predicted the very types of problems Mr. Trump is now scrambling belatedly to address.


Remember Trump twittered the word Covfefe WAY before the pandemic in 2017. Somehow I think he was part of this.

Amazon has a free audio sample of this book.
 
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