The Quadron of Sexual Status

[emmabobary]

@gopher I wasn't trying to say anything
I just thought you would find the video interesting

 

[Inquisition]

My affirmative is serious:

1 - Processes embody and express appeal unto modern standards of attraction,
2 - Value varies from these standards and there's a consistency from the preferences interlinked from the process types,
3 - One's communicational style is inextricably interweaved with their dominant process,
4 - Communication style is paramount to bonding and therefore sexual appeal (thus establishing how desirable they are: status).

 

[kora]

Hmm, why'd you drop out?



Lol. Can't really blame them for that.

I was under the impression you were an attractive female, yeah.



A nugget of gold!

Yeah, feelings of persecution and repression are equally valid (or invalid) on both sides, because...well, because, far more than a reflection of the actual state of affairs, they're feelings. Granted, women have it pretty objectively awful in the Middle East and most parts of Africa, say. But I think it'd be beneficial if we'd all take the time to try and see things from the other side once in a while.

The disposable male? Men who act out their subconscious desires to die (no doubt often fueled by "girl problems") via impulsive, self-destructive behaviors? Women lying about being raped and men being automatically condemned for it because we as a society have an obligation to believe women upfront? The list goes on, of course; the point is there is ample reason for men to feel like they're being oppressed...

What false rape accusations? Most rapes go unreported, due to victim blaming and fear/shame in the public spotlight. Probably scared of being told they're lying too. They do not automatically condemn without evidence. The minority reporting false rapes are severely mentally disturbed.

What are the "girl problems" men are dying for? They don't get sex or affection so they kill themselves? I don't get Wut your point is I would be interested this being made more clear, a source or an explanation whatevz give me I'll read.

If you're referring to war in general and the fact that men are the soldiers, that's because women are weak and fluffy and are raised to be passively protected, they don't fight in wars. It's not like many woman were even in power to send them all off to war in her stead anyway. Since women are allowed in the army and now represent 10% of troops in America, I believe.

Not saying men are not repressed in their own way though. pressure to conform to macho emotionless wreckless bullshit stereotype. Conjugal violence or rape dismissed as ridiculous if they are the victims, also because they are meant to be powerful and women are meant to be weak.

 

[A_Scanner_Darkly]

What false rape accusations? Most rapes go unreported, due to victim blaming and fear/shame in the public spotlight. Probably scared of being told they're lying too. They do not automatically condemn without evidence. The minority reporting false rapes are severely mentally disturbed.

I thought victim blaming was obsolete these days. I think you're right about the fear/shame though.

Not condemned by the courts perhaps, I mean, but rather by mob rule. This kind of thing seems to happen fairly often (I don't keep detailed notes of all the news I absorb), but let me see...

"A Rape on Campus" is an article by Sabrina Erdely published in the November 19, 2014 issue of Rolling Stone,[1] which has since been debunked and retracted by the publisher. The article claimed that several members of a fraternity at the University of Virginia viciously raped a woman, identified only as Jackie, as part of an initiation rite during a chapter house party. After other journalists investigated the article's claims and found significant discrepancies, Rolling Stone issued multiple apologies for the story. The story was included in a Columbia Journalism Review feature, "The Worst Journalism of 2014", where it was described as winning "this year's media-fail sweepstakes".[2] The Poynter Institute named it as the "Error of the Year" in journalism.[3]...

...On November 20, 2014, the Phi Kappa Psi house was vandalized as several people hurled glass bottles and hard cinder blocks through most of the first-floor windows and spray-painted insulting messages on the building.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/A_Rape_on_Campus

I think just the idea that I could be accused of rape on no evidence and my reputation could be besmirched just overnight like that and my home destroyed is fairly terrifying (someone could even go so far as to kill me!). Yeah, these weirdos are in the minority I guess, but it's quite a bit of power to wield nonetheless. It's pretty obvious why there was a real need to give women this kind of power in the first place, but then we're reminded that women are people just like anyone else, and are just as prone to abusing said power as any man might abuse his.

Like I said, it's data I've been slowly accruing, most disorganizedly, over the years, and I form impressions off of that, but no it's not an exact science obviously...I have read about similar cases to this too.

Eh, not sure if this website/writer has some kind of serious bias, but here is a little compendium of 13 women who lied about being raped and why:
http://thoughtcatalog.com/janet-blo...o-lied-about-being-raped-and-why-they-did-it/

What are the "girl problems" men are dying for? They don't get sex or affection so they kill themselves? I don't get Wut your point is I would be interested this being made more clear, a source or an explanation whatevz give me I'll read.

It's a well known phenomenon that men tend to deal with their emotional problems not by talking them out (they need to live up to ideals of manliness imposed on them largely by the women in their lives, and talking about their feelings thoroughly emasculates them), but rather by engaging in high-risk behaviors, such as fighting, shooting guns, speeding down the freeway on their motorcycles, diving off cliffs, doing hard drugs, etc. Aside from what I will term these "Alphas," there are pretty substantial numbers of "Betas" that probably hurt themselves because they can't get female attention at all...but because they're Betas, they probably just talk about their feelings with other Betas.

DISCLAIMER: Half the time, I don't know what my point is either.

If you're referring to war in general and the fact that men are the soldiers, that's because women are weak and fluffy and are raised to be passively protected, they don't fight in wars. It's not like many woman were even in power to send them all off to war in her stead anyway. Since women are allowed in the army and now represent 10% of troops in America, I believe.

OK. Well, I don't remember thinking about wars.

Not saying men are not repressed in their own way though. pressure to conform to macho emotionless wreckless bullshit stereotype. Conjugal violence or rape dismissed as ridiculous if they are the victims, also because they are meant to be powerful and women are meant to be weak.

Well, that was my point, yes, that women aren't the only ones being oppressed by society and by the opposite-sex collective because of their sex/gender. But perhaps it just happens to us in more subtle ways. Remember: males are the violent ones; females play mind and emotional games. And I find the latter form of hurt to be the more damaging, personally.

This is a rather haphazard post, but maybe it'll prove fairly illuminating.

 

[crippli]

Violence tend to be relative. A harsh word may carry more severe consequences then severe torture.

 

[kora]

Violence tend to be relative. A harsh word may carry more severe consequences then severe torture.

Yeah I'd rather be insulted/Criticized than raped or tortured personally.

 

[emmabobary]

Mmmm
How about being insulted and denigrated repetitively over10 years vs. being raped/tortured once.
That would be fair enough.
Which would you choose?
Personally I don't think that a critique can be equal to an insult.

 

[emmabobary]

Violence tend to be relative. A harsh word may carry more severe consequences then severe torture.

...Said Masoch :v

 

[kora]

Mmmm
How about being insulted and denigrated repetitively over10 years vs. being raped/tortured once.
That would be fair enough.
Which would you choose?
Personally I don't think that a critique can be equal to an insult.

What scenario do you have in mind? You mean someone just following me around screaming at me that I'm a pile of shit, a waste of space and should kill myself all the time?

 

[The Gopher]

What scenario do you have in mind? You mean someone just following me around screaming at me that I'm a pile of shit, a waste of space and should kill myself all the time?

Hmm I'm not sure his or her intent however what he or she is describing possibly indirectly seems to be child abuse in the mental and emotional sense over a long period of time most likely by parents.

 

[emmabobary]

What scenario do you have in mind? You mean someone just following me around screaming at me that I'm a pile of shit, a waste of space and should kill myself all the time?

I don't know, if you want to picture it like that...
My point is that a critique cannot be equal to an insult. In insulting there's the deliberated will to harm.
A critique helps building or deconstructing a structure.
Also prolonged exposure to negative stimulation can provoke severe damage. I don't feel like choosing this over a rape. None of them should be tolerated, to be clear.

 

[A_Scanner_Darkly]

Hmm I'm not sure his or her intent however what he or she is describing possibly indirectly seems to be child abuse in the mental and emotional sense over a long period of time most likely by parents.

Plenty of people have partners like that too, with whom, for whatever reason, they remain for long stretches of life.

(CHYEAH! reformulated that sentence before posting so that it wouldn't end in a preposition.)

 

[kora]

I don't know, if you want to picture it like that...
My point is that a critique cannot be equal to an insult. In insulting there's the deliberated will to harm.
A critique helps building or deconstructing a structure.
Also prolonged exposure to negative stimulation can provoke severe damage. I don't feel like choosing this over a rape. None of them should be tolerated, to be clear.

Hm. Right. I have simply no idea which I would choose. Yes the two are different. Although criticism is not necessarily constructive especially if there's a constant flow of it.

 

[emmabobary]

I didn't say so.

critique helps building or deconstructing a structure

I'll add:... of thought.
Otherwise I don't consider it a critique.
Otherwise it's only garbage.