The other side of Ti

[ballaxe]

What's your opinion on that one other Introverted Thinking dominant type - the ISTP?

 

[Nezaros]

My understanding is that ISTP's are the most "rational" of the non-rationals. Similar to INTP's but more willing to work with the practical than the theoretical. I don't know any personally, however.

 

[TimeAsylums]

4/5 of my girlfriend's have been ISTPs, idk if it's because they're simply overly common than our lovely INFJs that we want, or it's because their Ti is attractive - albeit with the Se sideline. Anyway, a girl I'm seeing now noticed it yesterday, I already knew it, but she was like "we're different in thinking...I like to have more 'concrete' or workable ideas and you're more abstract/theoretical. So yeah pretty much.

 

[Pyropyro]

Looks like we will have a good time growing with ISTP's.

INTP's can refine their craft by providing intuitive hints while ISTP's can gently pry those bubbling ideas that INTP's fear to implement in real life.

have no info on real life ISTP's as well

 

[Hadoblado]

I like them.

 

[Analyzer]

Cool people, their tertiary Ni can get annoying at times though.

 

[r4ch3l]

My dad is one. Engineer, doesn't mind never leaving the house, rides a motorcycle, enjoys basketball/sports. Stubborn. Very stubborn. Hard worker. Very intelligent but sees life in quite a simplistic way -- cannot relate to the existential crisis state I was born with and likely will die in.

This is how simple life is for him: he enlisted in the Navy when he was 18, did so well on entrance testing that he got his choice of technical training, traveled around and partied and built a future career path for himself through education/experience. When he was discharged he told his friends that he was going to move to California and marry the first pretty blonde girl he met. And then he did. And they're still married, because she is an ISFJ (and a Catholic).

I've known a couple of other ISTP engineers as friends and their sureness of themselves/their decisions, need for (comparatively) very little in life to be happy, and ability to enjoy simple pleasures and be in the moment is enviable. But the tradeoff is that they can be closed-minded and a bit arrogant because of their intelligence combined with perceiving in such a literal fashion.

 

[Nezaros]

cannot relate to the existential crisis state I was born with and likely will die in.

I imagine this is a hallmark of most Sensors. Possibly.

 

[Brontosaurie]

dope ass murrdah

 

[Architect]

My brother is one and I know a lot. They mirror INTP's somewhat.

• Don't like the theoretical or abstract
• Like thinking and problem solving
• Like machines
• Like sports
• Good at getting work done

 

[BigApplePi]

I have an internet friend who has built me a couple computers. xSTP. Says he loves to do it and the proof is he doesn't charge me. I just pay for parts which he loves to talk about. I have to be careful I don't get too theoretical with him. He likes to get things done which makes theory kind of worthless anyway.

 

[Duxwing]

ISTPs are very helpful to have on hand when building something: They are to the physical world what we are to the mental one. I remember buidling a Rube Goldberg machine with three ISTPs for my physics class, and while I handled most of the higher-up thinking, oversight, and math, they handled the tiny nuts-and-bolts sensory details that would have otherwise made my head explode in overloaded frustration.

While they had enough Ti to have succeeded without me, I hasted our work by letting them focus on one part of the job. Technical drawings in black marker on the back of a pizza box? Done. Trig calculations to back those drawings up? Did that while doing the drawings. Envisioning mechanisms that will wow a crowd, and then architecting them while occasionally helping out with the smaller stuff? With relish!

Ti: Models everything with razor-fine precision so that models can simply be worked from instead of 'interpreted'.
Ne: Possibility identifier and imagination powerhouse. Chameleons to Se for ease of socialization.
Si: Routine task handler, special information gatherer and storer.
Fe: Bond and feel proud of helping others and be glad that I'm working in physics.

Physics projects. What an unusual place to feel actualized.

-Duxwing

 

[Brontosaurie]

Technical drawings in black marker

i call bullshit

no way you'd achieve that

 

[Ink]

My mother and two younger brothers are ISTPs. The youngest is the only one I can have rational conversations with, probably because I had so much influence in shaping his personality (not fucking him up like the other two)... Otherwise I have barely known any

 

[Chad]

The closest I know to ISTP would be my wife but she is an ISTJ so not quite the same.

 

[ballaxe]

Thanks everyone. I know of one who tested ISTP but is most interested in theory. How can I make sure?

 

[kvothe27]

My brother is an ISTP. The guy is basically an action hero. He's a firefighter, in the military, flies helicopters, is a very good surfer, rides motorcycles, etc. He has no interest in theory and strongly dislikes anything academic. He goes out, saves people's lives, and gets his adrenaline rush.

He builds things and he builds them well, but, due to a lack of design beforehand, they tend to not look as good as they could. Everything looks good on its own, but much of it seems a bit out of place when taken all together. What I mean is that he lacks a view of the bigger picture.

 

[Ink]

Thanks everyone. I know of one who tested ISTP but is most interested in theory. How can I make sure?

You can't be sure. Why do you need to be sure?

 

[ballaxe]

You can't be sure. Why do you need to be sure?

I know. I don't know. To understand better?

 

[Montresor]

I am rooming with an ISTP this week and I must say it's a lot better than rooming with ESFP.

I can tell the difference between his type and mine but it is subtle.

ISTJ (@chad) are nothing like ISTP,... IME.


You "make sure" by identifying Se.... it's easy. Watch the eyes. People's eyes betray pages of information.


The stubborn arrogance makes these introverts terrible listeners... about practical matters. This doesn't seem to develop until after competence, which is a nice break from other types.

 

[Ink]

You "make sure" by identifying Se.... it's easy. Watch the eyes. People's eyes betray pages of information.

You make sure by identifying all the functions

 

[ballaxe]

Cool people, their tertiary Ni can get annoying at times though.

In which way?

 

[ballaxe]

I can tell the difference between his type and mine but it is subtle.

Yeah, that's my experience.

ISTJ (@chad) are nothing like ISTP,... IME.

Strongly agreed (got an Istj sister).

You "make sure" by identifying Se.... it's easy. Watch the eyes. People's eyes betray pages of information.

Though it can help, I think when the difference between types is little this is not the most accurate way. Especially if those eyes are small and myopic among other specialties.

 

[ballaxe]

My Istp friend today told me that I was 'over-thinking' something. Was it as in joking around, or is it Ti in NT vs. Ti in SP?

 

[Montresor]

You make sure by identifying all the functions

Yes that's very good thank you Ink.

 

[Ink]

Yes that's very good thank you Ink.

Sorry, but I just don't like when someone tries and instruct people how to type... There's too many variables! But it's true that the body, especially the face, and more especially the eyes tells you a lot...