The Other 360 Subtypes

[AmacdaTNPI]

I want to read other people theories on either more description of thier subtype(or closely related others)- http://www.intpforum.com/showthread.php?t=12181 and help me theorize other types subtypes compeltly. I am strong in the thinking aspect and i know a lot of INTJs. I am very ambiverted between extrovert and introvert but my prospecting function is far beyond my introvert function. Typology is still behind and I'm going to take the risk of others plajurizing me in order to learn more. So because of all that I know a lot about ENTPs through intrapersonal experience and mostly about some of the INTP sub types. I love physics and relativity.

My types: in order throughout the school day which will vary in the future
ITPN-30%
NPTI-30%
TNPI-90%Ego
PTNI-20%Ego
NIPT-40%
IPTN-50%Ego/ID
TPNI-relaxed ego-comes off as ENTPs

The intjs I know might be INTP-Ts but I know a NJTI/NTJI and a TNJI
They seem to be funny and know everything about people but don't nessacarily like them. They both can manipulate well while one of them(the NTJI) knows a lot tends to say a lot of public speeches while laying out the ground rules of common sense. The TNJI is a master manipulator and extreme leader as he enjoys leading a bunch of morons and exploiting his logic and common sense to them. Me I think so often, I often forget about my surroundings or am waiting for one illogical slip to criticize the hell out of.
I would say I come off as a TNPE at types but that's usually after I introvertedly think for a long time. I believe other intp(being some of the smartest) should help me theorize other types and I am more relative in conversation than criticle. Psychology is fun and the awesome thing about it is.. You can do it 24/7 and every person knows a little bit about it.

My personal percentage of each around 97% thinking. 88% intuitive. 77% prospecting and 66% introvert. 16 personalities is better than the other popular one and Jung and Einstein is awesome. Any bodies view points on their types is interesting and the more comments the merrier.

TNPI-losses identity and ego, logic takes over personal self and thrives on taking down systems for the sport of doing so
PNTE- The arguer
TNPE- loves to shred arguments, sometimes argues with stupid people and always finds a way to make a reasonable point doing so
NTJI- feels as if their job is to clean up the incorrect norms and thoughts of people in society and probably improvises a lot on the way society views things adding a new logical perspective to people's lives

I think INTJs thoughts on intelligence is how effectively they can apply to their surroundings while an INTP is about how well can I create surroundings and new utilities for my surroundings
INTJs easily look at what effects what and how it is effected.

 

[reckful]

Imagine you've got four INTPs on your hands. (This story's already off to a bad start, eh?)

INTP A's preference strengths are 60-64-68-90.
INTP B's preference strengths are 60-68-64-90.
INTP C's preference strengths are 60-82-86-90.
INTP D's preference strengths are 60-86-82-90.

(As the MBTI Manual emphasizes, MBTI scores don't really indicate preference strengths, but never mind.)

Any fool can see that A and B are basically type twins, as are C and D.

Buuut according to your subtypology, A and C are one pair of twins (they're both PTNIs), and B and D are another (they're PNTIs).

And I would respectfully submit that that's just silly.

Also: did I mention that the MBTI Manual emphasizes that MBTI scores don't really indicate preference strengths? And that applies even if you're comparing two scores on the same dimension. Comparing scores from different dimensions and saying, e.g., "he's a 65% N and a 75% T, so he's more of a thinker than an intuitive," is even more uncalled-for.

As a final note, and maybe I'm a little biased, but I think one kind of INTP is more than enough.

 

[AmacdaTNPI]

Imagine you've got four INTPs on your hands. (This story's already off to a bad start, eh?)

INTP A's preference strengths are 60-64-68-90.
INTP B's preference strengths are 60-68-64-90.
INTP C's preference strengths are 60-82-86-90.
INTP D's preference strengths are 60-86-82-90.

(As the MBTI Manual emphasizes, MBTI scores don't really indicate preference strengths, but never mind.)

Any fool can see that A and B are basically type twins, as are C and D.

Buuut according to your subtypology, A and C are one pair of twins (they're both PTNIs), and B and D are another (they're PNTIs).

And I would respectfully submit that that's just silly.

Also: did I mention that the MBTI Manual emphasizes that MBTI scores don't really indicate preference strengths? And that applies even if you're comparing two scores on the same dimension. Comparing scores from different dimensions and saying, e.g., "he's a 65% N and a 75% T, so he's more of a thinker than an intuitive," is even more uncalled-for.

As a final note, and maybe I'm a little biased, but I think one kind of INTP is more than enough.

Wait so are you saying theirs not much variation between a IPTN and a NTPI? The scores clearly show what traits are most dominant and I see it as the mental process they go through before thinking. There might not be a big difference if the scores are similar in percentage like 86 79 83 84 but if the numbers have a range that is greater than 20 I think every trait in the order it is in is notibly different and since subtypes presented in that way is sorta new their are a lot of angles on whether it means order or dominance but because of the types I think it is always nessacary to say what traits leads most to do further study on the variation. I vary between a couple different types depending on my mood but on test I led with the traits in the order of tnpi and I know I am an extremely different type of person than most after all my social experiences. A 61 59 67 60 is not as strong of an intp and that's why I think they should be presented for reason like that. Every letter makes a huge difference and I characterize it by what trait shows more through out the day but if the number range is high like 97 88 79 64 that is definitely a specific character of intp

You seem to be ITNJ what's your trait order if you don't mind me asking?

 

[Jennywocky]

The scores don't say much at all. They only measure how often you favored one dichotomous trait over another -- i.e., you might only favor Intuition over Sensing with a 51/49 split, but your score could still be 100% if every time you answered a question, you picked Intuition.

Meanwhile, you could be picking Introversion over Extroversion 75% of the time (that would be your score = 3/4 of the question picking Introversion), but you might actually REAALLLLLLLY favor introversion in those cases with a strength of 80, or 85, or 90 versus just a marginal victory.

See what I mean, jellybean?

The "24 types of INTP" are more of conceptual descriptions versus quantitative ones, and the scores mean little. I've noticed for me myself, I tend to favor an N approach to things when I engage and aren't as severely introverted in some situations... so I fall in the NPIT or NPTI category, the descriptions speak to me personally.

But the scores really mean squat. They don't mean what you're suggesting they mean.

 

[AmacdaTNPI]

The scores don't say much at all. They only measure how often you favored one dichotomous trait over another -- i.e., you might only favor Intuition over Sensing with a 51/49 split, but your score could still be 100% if every time you answered a question, you picked Intuition.

Meanwhile, you could be picking Introversion over Extroversion 75% of the time (that would be your score = 3/4 of the question picking Introversion), but you might actually REAALLLLLLLY favor introversion in those cases with a strength of 80, or 85, or 90 versus just a marginal victory.

See what I mean, jellybean?

The "24 types of INTP" are more of conceptual descriptions versus quantitative ones, and the scores mean little. I've noticed for me myself, I tend to favor an N approach to things when I engage and aren't as severely introverted in some situations... so I fall in the NPIT or NPTI category, the descriptions speak to me personally.

But the scores really mean squat. They don't mean what you're suggesting they mean.

Well then I believe that a person who is an intp and maybe a tnpi might be more of tpin at times but I can agree with you that a person themselves know if they are a tpin even if they scored tnpi. But the variations are accurate I believe if a person personally knows they are one trait over the other then they are but the order that they are set in is specific types of people. I don't believe a person needs to know their exact percentages and it's hard to not have certain traits because all the traits in all the eight letters make up a basic human but if they know they are a lot more intuitive they should say they lead with an N. I still believe in other types and maybe their should be more than one of a specific type like 4 TNPIs. And coding it is fun. Every subtype is a specific character and I think the people who coded them in the first places picked the ones they knew the most about but because of their accuracy you can base new types off of the 48 subtypes made. It seems very organized and cool but if one of the 24 says TNPI and the person reading it knows their are a TNPE they can greatly improvise on new types and should have a say.

I have almost a cluster and I found my results which is 94T 88N 85P 65P 77A (16personalities) and maybe because TNP is clustered it should be presented as TNP/I or something like that.

I have a INTP-T friend who seems to jump from type to type but seems to stay with I. At moments he leads with T and P when we are debating but his character is mostly an I