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The origin of common sense

Richard Norman

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Hello.

I am an INFJ, so a foreigner is treading your board, but seriously I have a question that is vexing me, I have posted this question on several forums but it remains unanswered.

It concerns the subject of common sense.

Like all INFJ's the function of sensation is contained in my shadow, in my own estimation I lack common sense, I do things which I know are not good for my body.

Sensation is a common function I believe, could it be that common sense derives from the function of sensation? Or if not where does this ability originate?

Thoughts very much appreciated.

Richard.
 

Artsu Tharaz

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Doing things which you know are not good for your body sounds more like a lack of discipline (I do the same).

My first impression is that common sense is different from sensation. I could even see a case for it as being based in intuition (which I don't think is the truth either), at least in the colloquial sense of the word. For example, in mathematics sometimes when something can be seen as probably true without needing to do an analysis, it is said to be understood intuitively, but I could easily see these things as also based in common sense (my mind is not giving me a good example to illustrate this at the moment).

So, here's the definition of common sense (from google):
"Common sense is a basic ability to perceive, understand, and judge things that is shared by ("common to") nearly all people and can reasonably be expected of nearly all people without need for debate."

If it is shared by almost all people, then this suggests to me that it could not be type related, since it must be shared by most people of any given type. Thus, it is based on the common human faculties.
 

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There's a disconnect between thought and action that's bridged by self disicipline.

Spending a weekend watching TV is not a good use of anyone's time and you can ask this of anyone and they'll usually agree, but they do it anyway, not because they are unaware that they shouldn't be doing it but because they're acting on impulse; having knowledge dosen't mean a damn thing if you don't use it to make decisions.

Without self discipline the mind is a powerless spectator.
 

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Judging by Google’s definition of common sense, I think part of it could also be derived from common education and, to a lesser extent, social expectations. For example, we know not to use a hair dryer while in a bath because we’ve all been taught at an early age that water conducts electricity. And (also just to give an example, lol) on a much less urgent level it would be seen by some as defying common sense to wear crocs to Kim Kardashian’s wedding, simply because it goes against social norms. Because of the social aspect, common sense can cover knowledge that’s vital and knowledge that is a bit more trivial.

Therefore, presuming you do have common sense and just want to implement it more, maybe you could gain some discipline in or knowledge of the area/s you want to work on by joining people who are working on the same thing? E.g. exercising in a group. Other people can do a lot to keep you on track.
 

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In computer science, common sense is what computers DON"T have, that is, the ability to fill in the blanks. Computers can be programed to figure out what you mean, but when I say they don't have common sense, it means they don't infer. They cannot know a stick can push but not pull, and a rope can pull, but not push. They must know everything about it to know it, or see it be used one way but not the other, or they must be told it. Common sense, while used loosely, probably comes from instinct (as far as origins are concerned).

Instinct is just pre-reasoning. Therefore, what you are doing is commonsensical, but not for the modern day. Human instincts are still behind society (that way when society collapses their are still humans *organisms are built around self preservative measures[if they weren't they wouldn't exists {but from xenologism, it would be cool if they didn't |but then they wouldn't be classified as organisms|}]*) good job following common sense, but don't take it too far.
 

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Common sense-a remnant of the Aristotelian influence. A simple and non-self -conscious use of logic. Of course there is theoretical knowledge, common sense would be lacking in that respect. Common sense is not good at complex issues, wide abstractions.
America is the greatest at this common sense concept.
 

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No one with common sense can answer the OP. It requires acess to the unique sense.
 

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As pointed out by many others, what you probably lack is discipline more than common sense, in your own definition, simply because you are aware that your actions are not good for your body.

Common sense is basically pattern recognition, something we acquire as we grow up, and something, i strongly believe, has great potential to mature in any given person.

Ability to solve puzzles would be a good measure of common-sense, this, i think, is not very controversial. Puzzles are like encryption, easier one way than the other. Once you know what you want to test in a person, you can usually device a question in a tricky way that serves your purpose. You can add and remove information as you shape the question, and when you are satisfied with it, your test is created. To solve it, is a whole different ball game, because, often, you do not know what you are being tested at. But, solve enough puzzles, and you begin seeing patterns to them.

Common sense, in a way, is different from genius, although they are both quite similar, imo. Common sense is culturally restricted. For example, it was common sense that Sun revolved around the Earth, because people saw that happen everyday. To say otherwise, would probably be considered as an indication of lack thereof. Genius, imo, is born in the instant one takes the effort to verify common-sense and comes up with something new, that is contrary to belief / useful / beautiful. I do not mean that if your result confirms the previously held belief, you cannot be a genius, but simply, that it wouldn't be recognized, or worse still, be condemned. And the reason i think common sense and genius are similar is that, till a breakthrough is made, genius may manifest as plain common-sense.

If you look at things carefully, you might find that things of very different kind seem to follow similar patterns, or that one thing can be described in terms of another. For example, i tend to think of my state of mind in terms of attractor states. Once i'm in a particular attractor state, i'm comfortable and it goes on well for a long period of time, and generally, it takes external influences to draw me out of it (although boredom and a tendency to try something new work their ways from time to time), and when i become ill-disciplined and unable to concentrate on important things, i imagine myself in another attractor state, or in the stage of transition between two different states. This helps me take further goal oriented action, which i simply was incapable of doing before i applied this method of thinking.

Another differentiation, i think at this point, should be made between intelligence and success, because imo, it's a vastly misunderstood concept. Intelligence is the ability to process information in a way that is logically consistent. It indicates nothing as to your motivation to carry about a result of your own process. That is, you can make the most fool proof plan for success, but still fail, simply because you did not follow it.

Success on the other hand, is process dependent. You might be unable to see solutions to complex patterns, but as long as you are good at following well established guidelines for doing something, you are likely to succeed without requirement of a high amounts of intellect, or, even understanding the point of those guidelines at all.

I hope i could clear some of your doubts :)
 

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In computer science, common sense is what computers DON"T have, that is, the ability to fill in the blanks.

Well yes, because computer languages in use have strict syntactic and semantic grammars, but that doesn't preclude a form of 'common' sense as a programming paradigm. for example in neural nets. Modern Deep nets are capable of inferential thinking, that is "well, this kind of looks like a cat, so I'll call it a cat" like common sense thinking (also consider fuzzy logic). Watson of Jeopardy fame also demonstrated this kind of thinking.

In this sense I'll define common sense as having a broad (e.g. widely applicable) heuristic available as a kind of occams razor. This implies that the heuristic which a person has in the modern West isn't useful in say the Medieval Orient. Our modern heuristic would tell us that we probably wouldn't get killed for looking at a person in authority, which would be a bad one in Feudal Japan!
 
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