the exact opposite of your comfort zone?

[nanook]

what is it and why?

for me its reality and nobody embodies reality like prison inmates, the social workers who try to teach them to keep their projections wrapped up (anger management), police officers and soldiers.

when i look at movies that feature realistic (!) displays of such parties, i experience intense discomfort and fear, but also a transcendent air of spirit, that attacks my ego like nothing else.

it's like something inside of me has to admit that my separate self has no other purpose but to escape from this quality. and i get very paranoid about it, i feel that this spirit was originally out to kill me and it will kill me even harder because i have dared to escape and deny it for so long.

this reality is not just a set of actions or thoughts that i avoid, it feels like a whole dimension that i have escaped from, but it feels hyper-real, it's the original reality.

according to mbti and if i am infp, my weakest spot should be Te and perhaps my idea of reality is in deed the product and spirit of objective thinking judgment.

carl jung used typology as a psychoanalytic tool. could it be that accurate in predicting spiritual conflict or are intense feelings like that something more personal and unique?

Do you have deep experiences of god vs ego terror yourself?
Is it Fe images for you? Is it nannies who put the fear of god into you?


i am currently watching the movie 'rise' and this actor, who is the ultimate alpha eight, scares the daylights out of me.

[bimgx=250]http://i.imgur.com/GoxnuXX.jpg[/bimgx]wait, he looks too friendly in this screenshot.

i will upload another one. [bimgx=250]http://i.imgur.com/kHUQl7T.jpg[/bimgx]

but it doesn't really hit you until you realize what figures respect him as their leader. [bimgx=250]http://i.imgur.com/PckA3XF.jpg[/bimgx]

I want to clarify, it's not the guy who scares me, but the reality that he is so optimally adapted to, that he can rule it. So it's hard to tell the difference between him and that principle of reality. But it's the prison, it's the warzone, it's facts of life such as that "evil" exists (however you conceptualize it) and nobody comes to save you. Unless the police saves you. But they will probably beat you to a pulp.

 

[Teffnology]

Along those lines Michael Cain had a great quote in The Dark Knight about how some people just like to watch the world burn.

Prison is the extreme of society and it truly is a jungle full of primal beings. It doesn't take long for one to realize the mental game they play is on another level. Weakness of any kind is a bullseye for these beasts to prey upon.

Some people absolutely thrive on the demise of others and that in and of itself is scarry as shit. All we can do is hope to not give them a reason to exact their will on us.

 

[TBerg]

The thing about peering into the abyss, as Nietzsche says, is to be careful that it does not peer back into you. There is a quality that occurs when we access our shadow side in which we cannot find the motivation to pursue the heroic parts of ourselves that are capable of staking out a claim and then conquering it. You find that there are sickly and criminal impulses within yourself, but you are too weak to do anything about them (hence the fear). Either you realize that acting upon these darker impulses would destroy your current self, or you fear that your attempts will fail.

But let us not dwell too much upon that. To compare by analogy:

The Holocaust, taken by itself, is a black hole. To look at it directly is to be swallowed up by it. --David Novack

 

[Brontosaurie]

when instances must be viewed in their contingency and not as expressions of abstractions.

when essence is violated not because of iconoclastic impulse toward synthesis but because of ignorance.

when outcome is determined by social dominance rather than factual accuracy and comprehension.

also people, attention and responsibility.

 

[Cognisant]

Loneliness.

The psychological degradation that comes with isolation, the disassociation with reality that occurs, when dreams become more real to you than reality, the descent into madness.

No matter how bad prison is nobody wants to stay in the isolation cell.

 

[Cognisant]

There was a video on youtube by RPGminx of a Gmod Jailbreak game in which one of the players ends up in an isolation cell, no way out, just stuck in a room while everyone else is up to shenanigans outside, in a matter of minutes the trapped person starts earnestly begging to be released. Not just in-game roleplay or "c'mon guys this isn't funny" type stuff (although it starts that way) I mean it soon developed into genuine psychological distress, you could hear the growing anxiety in their voice.

The video was probably taken down.

There's a world of difference between being alone for a while and being trapped in isolation, it's like when the Mythbusters were doing the water torture myth, it's all fun and games until the participant is restrained.

 

[Brontosaurie]

Loneliness.

The psychological degradation that comes with isolation, the disassociation with reality that occurs, when dreams become more real to you than reality, the descent into madness.

No matter how bad prison is nobody wants to stay in the isolation cell.

i suspect i have some of this to but i'm cursed to be a loner and borderline recluse anyway.

 

[QuickTwist]

I can't stand being forced to do anything, social acceptance for doing so doesn't hold enough weight at all for me.

I can't stand being hurried for anything. I am pokie and I know it. Just let me take my time and there will be no hard feeling between us.

 

[nanook]

claustrophobia, being buried alive = a possible icon of inferior Si terror?

 

[TheManBeyond]

hahah i have a bit of claustrophobia not sure if enough to say inferior Si
could be Ne as well, since you are thinking something can go fucking totally wrong. no¿?¿?¿¿??¿? hauhsuahusa
well thinking more about it, that must be Si, maybe tomorrow i cba to explain.
im being seriosu is jus that i have drank a lot and asked some girl i really like out and i'm feeling kinda nervous + extremely happy while sad? until i know her response

 

[Polaris]

The most banal of situations can make me feel trapped.

My associations seem more or less hardwired. I'm trying to figure out how to re-wire. Unfortunately, that may involve other people which will further reinforce the feeling of entrapment. Disconnection is no longer a healthy option, though.

 

[Bock]

Women (as potential mates) = diametrical opposite to my comfort zone. Obviously socializing in general. Responsibility makes me feel like i'm drowning, even the smallest thing can shatter my internal harmony/equilibrium.

Wish i could grow a massive beard for recluse bonus points.


ALSO HAPPY VALENTINES DAY! GEE AM I GOING TO PLAY DOTA2, EMULATE SOME OLD GAME NOBODY CARES ABOUT OR MAYBE SHITPOST ON THE INTERNET? SO MANY CHOICES!

 

[Yellow]

It's hard to imagine the opposite of my own comfort zone. However, there are a few general situations that I find highly uncomfortable.

1. Being under the full, direct, and inescapable control of someone who is irrational and/or malevolent.
2. Having my success/livelihood (or lack of it) depend largely or entirely on the actions, decisions, and/or performance of others.
3. Any situation in which I am required to focus on the "here and now" for more than a few seconds. This is only a significant issue when there are serious, but not survival-related consequences for failure. In this scenario, I suppose comfort is less of an issue as actual ability. I have reason to believe that I am utterly incapable of giving my undivided attention to something that does not intrinsically interest me.

 

[Ex-User (11125)]

standing on stage infront of a large audience

 

[Frankie]

I can't stand being forced to do anything, social acceptance for doing so doesn't hold enough weight at all for me.

I can't stand being hurried for anything. I am pokie and I know it. Just let me take my time and there will be no hard feeling between us.

Sounds a lot like me.

I like to plan ahead for virtually anything. Any unexpected event is out of my comfort zone. When I encounter these situations, it takes me a long time to understand what's really going on. If I'm hurried in these situations, I basically lose my Shit (not visibly) and end up making catastrophic decisions. So, I guess I'm not very flexible.

 

[TheManBeyond]

I dunno if this fits with this thread idea but i'm really unconfortable when i meet someone new, specially if i'm alone with that person. I become really insipid, quiet, can't think before speaking and because of this i can say some rude things. People end up seeing me like a partial asshole or in the best of the cases a bland weirdo. This is a huge obstacle in dates. I need tons of time to show me as i really am.

 

[TBerg]

TheManBeyond, is it possible that your disjointed attempt at fitting with someone is a result of certain negative projections from your worldview or even something below the surface of your consciousness?