The Alex Jones thread.

[Synthetix]

Boston was staged because rawblahblah 9/11, bleebahrawreeraw Bilderberg blah raw raw Bleh Area 51 gargle gargle gargle private banks reerawraw Jewish elite influence on American politics jhbnjjgijbxzas Trilateral group blah blah raw Mossad, homeland security, seven headed beast, blah reerawblah Obama drone strokes blah raw raw Dorner.

This was confirmed by a reliable inside source, blah blah rawblahblah, they are putting bugs in your appliances.

 

[Analyzer]

I don't believe any news media opinions.

 

[Trebuchet]

One of the most coherent and readable summaries of the issue I've seen, thanks.

 

[Lot]

That about sums the man up. I still think the bilderbers are trying to globalize the world under their craziness, but not everything is a false flag. The Secrets World of Alex Jones.

 

[Peripheral Visionary]

You may dismiss Alex Jones, but he fulfills a need. Otherwise he wouldn't be popular.

Some people have a need to believe that forces greater than themselves are conspiring to keep them down or bring them down.

Gambling addicts don't gamble because they think they will win. They gamble to reconfirm that they are losers, that the odds are against them, and that the universe, fate, and humanity are in a conspiracy to make sure they never get an even break.

Why have such a belief? It saves you the effort of making an effort. If you can't win, then why try? If you can't control anything, why try to delude yourself?

Of course, sometimes there are great forces in a conspiracy to keep you down, but that is another discussion.

I am not interested in conspiracy theories. Only the facts of conspiracy.

 

[Puffy]

You may dismiss Alex Jones, but he fulfills a need. Otherwise he wouldn't be popular.

Some people have a need to believe that forces greater than themselves are conspiring to keep them down or bring them down.

Gambling addicts don't gamble because they think they will win. They gamble to reconfirm that they are losers, that the odds are against them, and that the universe, fate, and humanity are in a conspiracy to make sure they never get an even break.

Why have such a belief? It saves you the effort of making an effort. If you can't win, then why try? If you can't control anything, why try to delude yourself?

Of course, sometimes there are great forces in a conspiracy to keep you down, but that is another discussion.

I am not interested in conspiracy theories. Only the facts of conspiracy.

He also serves to make opposition to the establishment look ridiculous. Doubt it's deliberate, just a convenience of it.

 

[Lyra]

He also serves to make opposition to the establishment look ridiculous. Doubt it's deliberate, just a convenience of it.

This is a bit like O'reilly making traditional conservatism look ridiculous, though. Anybody taken in by that kind of 'by association' thinking is utterly lost to accuracy already. They'd just be a tool in the hand of any would-be alternative order.

And, yes, Alex Jones certainly has his limitations and inaccuracies. He won't touch Zionism, he won't touch anything that clashes with his version of Christianity, and he's prone to paranoid miscalculation (as in his coverage of the Boston thing, where he asserted with absolute certainty that the schoolboy who ended up on the National Enquirer frontpage was Mossad). But, most of those seeing him as 'ridiculous' actually have a far more ridiculous and unfounded view of things than he does.

 

[Puffy]

This is a bit like O'reilly making traditional conservatism look ridiculous, though. Anybody taken in by that kind of 'by association' thinking is utterly lost to accuracy already. They'd just be a tool in the hand of any would-be alternative order.

And, yes, Alex Jones certainly has his limitations and inaccuracies. He won't touch Zionism, he won't touch anything that clashes with his version of Christianity, and he's prone to paranoid miscalculation (as in his coverage of the Boston thing, where he asserted with absolute certainty that the schoolboy who ended up on the National Enquirer frontpage was Mossad). But, most of those seeing him as 'ridiculous' actually have a far more ridiculous and unfounded view of things than he does.

That's fair, my post was slightly reactionary in honesty. I don't know much about Alex Jones (don't watch American news much), I just know how others present him, which in a sense doesn't invalidate what I said, or your last sentence either.

 

[Synthetix]

You guys took this thread more seriously than it was meant to be. I didn't think the lounge was a place for serious discussion, thus posting it here rather than the politics and history forum, where I would post something more serious.

 

[Puffy]

You guys took this thread more seriously than it was meant to be. I didn't think the lounge was a place for serious discussion, thus posting it here rather than the politics and history forum, where I would post something more serious.

What are you going to do to me?

 

[Synthetix]

What are you going to do to me?

Kidnap you, take you to a human testing lab in Singapore where there are experiments done that would be extremely controversial if made public and alter certain physical and mental features about you. Then use you for our grand scheme.

 

[Hadoblado]

Some people have a need to believe that forces greater than themselves are conspiring to keep them down or bring them down.

Gambling addicts don't gamble because they think they will win. They gamble to reconfirm that they are losers, that the odds are against them, and that the universe, fate, and humanity are in a conspiracy to make sure they never get an even break.

Why have such a belief? It saves you the effort of making an effort. If you can't win, then why try? If you can't control anything, why try to delude yourself?

Is that actually why they gamble, or is this just an alternative hypothesis to them wanting to get rich quick? In other words, is there evidence for your view?

 

[Peripheral Visionary]

Is that actually why they gamble, or is this just an alternative hypothesis to them wanting to get rich quick? In other words, is there evidence for your view?

That is some of the language gambling addicts use in describing themselves in therapy. Is that the same as evidence or justification? I don't know. Perhaps it is simple impulse control that must be backward rationalized. Perhaps it is addiction to heightened feelings one gets before the roll of the dice, or the turn of a card.

Few gambling addicts are rich--at least for long, so whatever their motivations are can't be justified by the size of their bank accounts.

But we were talking about Alex Jones in a completely non-serious way, right?

 

[Hadoblado]

I was derailing rather hard, your assertion about gamblers seemed more interesting to me.

Few gambling addicts are rich--at least for long, so whatever their motivations are can't be justified by the size of their bank accounts.

Irrational thoughts beget irrational behaviour. I'll look it up some other time