Terrible, terrible ideas

[dark+matters]

How do you come to realize when you have held a false notion, or really, really bad idea that just isn't going to lead up to what you had hoped for?

 

[eagor]

when the evidence suggests the contrary to my held belief/theory/hypothesis/whatever...

 

[Jennywocky]

I was hoping this thread was just really full of horrible, dark, terrible ideas.

Where's THD when you need him?

 

[Yellow]

How do you come to realize when you have held a false notion, or really, really bad idea that just isn't going to lead up to what you had hoped for?

When everything goes horribly, horribly wrong.

Seriously, I have about a 3:2 good:awful idea batting average. If I don't run my superbrilliant! ideas by someone rational, or at least turn off the "me" part of my brain and give it another look, I'm just asking for trouble.

I was hoping this thread was just really full of horrible, dark, terrible ideas.

@dark+matters? When you've gotten a satisfactory answer (no rush, it's your thread after all), can you officiate the transformation of this thread into a terrible, terrible idea thread? Pretty please?

 

[TBerg]

When we engage in the ritual of coming into the world, we fashion ourselves talisman that promise us great works from their deep provenance. It is with great care that we studied the origins of the talisman and how it will bring us good works. We carry them with pride and develop a relationship with the pendant close to our heart. The relationship turns into familiarity and love and brings a symbolic companion to our milieu.

When we wear it, it seems to bring us the fortunate effects promised by the provenance. We know that it was because of the talisman that many great occurrences came our way and many traps were avoided. We know that it has done its job.

While on our life journey, we discover a quest. From our research into the talisman, we know that the talisman was designed for the ultimate purpose not only to provide good fortune but to fulfill the key part of the quest. We take up the quest, knowing the talisman will pull through when it counts.

When we reach the moment of truth during the key stage of the quest, however, we follow the directions we knew corresponding to the talisman...and it does not work. We struggle to fulfill the quest, but we just can't pull it off. To our dismay, the talisman does not appear to fulfill its expressed purpose, and so we despair.

But we exit the quest and discover that the effort we put into our ordinary presence in the world continues to pay off. The talisman did not seem to have anything to do with this, but it happened anyway. It was still ornate with brilliant beauty and find memories, but it did not have the magic to complete the quest. Oh well, no one else seems to have beaten that level either.

 

[StevenM]

I wish I had as good of a batting average as yellow.

Usually, I have to just drop the subject and give it a complete rest. Later when I head back to it, I can finally see it (the idea) for what it is.

 

[Seteleechete]

When I actually do the horrible idea and it backfires.

 

[YOLOisonlyprinciple]

Once at my parent's place, i tried out a fetish when they were away..
It nearly landed me in a hospital and which, if anyone knew about; i wouldnt have been able to face any body i knew anymore...
good thing everything worked out in the end..

Lesson learnt; dont listen to what others say or advice; some stuff is just too risky.. ecstasy/pleasure makes you a bit too much like an animal...

Usually, i dont recognise an idea is bad until ive completed it; and then my brain to work in full force to repair it; tbh, ive become pretty good at correcting mistakes over time..


As for terrible ideas, i used to think of suicide when i was 11-12, but never really acted upon it, i dont remember for what reason

 

[Haim]

Most of my terrible ideas are just unpractical good ideas.
Bad unpractical to make game controls,too much time to make/learn, untalented and skilled enough (animation and art)
Things that sometime break the Internet connection while improving it

So or I think/find there is a flaw or I see the tech that is needed to the idea is not good or expensive or I start to implemente it and see it's no good.

 

[Jennywocky]

How do you come to realize when you have held a false notion, or really, really bad idea that just isn't going to lead up to what you had hoped for?

when the evidence suggests the contrary to my held belief/theory/hypothesis/whatever...

That's pretty much it in a nutshell.

You test your ideas and pay attention to the results, and once it seems more probable than not that there is a better idea out there (or at least your idea has too many holes), you change it.

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Bad Ideas that sound good at the time.:

- Running your own toy sweatshop while dressing up your children workers as elves.

- Creating the world's first invisible car... and then trying to drive it on an overcrowded highway during rush.

- Hacking your firm's network in your spare time "just to see if it can be done," without telling anyone ahead of time that it was all a test.

- Strapping rockets to the backs of an army of penguins. (Penguins are wandering ornery critters to begin with, and then they have no way to release the harnesses so the rockets won't take them with.)

- Answering an ad for sexual cosplay of "Hannibal: The TV Show"

I could get darker versus amusing, but... no one wants that.

Once at my parent's place, i tried out a fetish when they were away.. It nearly landed me in a hospital and which, if anyone knew about; i wouldnt have been able to face any body i knew anymore... good thing everything worked out in the end..

Happy for you, but I still feel bad for the hamsters.

 

[Brontosaurie]

typically i have one axiomatic reductionist concept which i won't abandon and will defend staunchly, despite apparent counter-indications, until i am shown the potential for another such concept which provides contrast, dynamic and nuance when factored with the previous one and allows me to discuss the topic more flexibly. i then set off to explore and integrate that potential concept. i rarely allow myself to hold anything true based on pure factual evidence. pure factual evidence is deeply unsatisfying. every piece of data invoked in an argument has to correspond to some abstract generalized model, not just with respect to what conclusion it supports, but internally through the whole process of opinion formation. my instinctive goal is to align and justify all of what i believe, but i give myself a lot of slack. it's methodically sound. being too eager about logic and reason is a danger and a trap; it may have you sitting doing pointless derivations from internal convictions rather than expanding and refining the convictions themselves by connecting with the world of conceptual entities and their interactions. yes i'm describing Ti-Ne.

so my main type of terrible idea is the overly abstract concept, and my main solution is to complement it with another overly abstract concept which facilitates a closer approximation of truth by allowing more complex statements that take more facets of reality into account. it's almost like keen, neutral observation it might fool some people.

 

[onesteptwostep]

lol

half amen to that

 

[Ex-User (11125)]

I don't tend to hold on tightly to opinions or notions or beliefs, but I do always atleast have an idea which side of the spectrum I agree with or identify with more. at this stage in life I'm more into trying to understand the different subsets or branches that are umberellaed(did I just invent this word?) by that spectrum than holding onto just one.

when it comes to decision making regarding...umm...day to day stuff, I mostly do this spontaneously, which is why I find myself knee deep in **** most of the time. So...what Seteleechete said

 

[EditorOne]

"When everything goes horribly, horribly wrong."
^ What Yellow said, plus this: When you don't get the result you expected from your thinking and assumptions and it comes as a complete surprise. Time to sit down in your tracks and find out where you went off the rails.

 

[TheManBeyond]

I always know that 90% of my ideas are going to end up in failures because i know every contradiction... but the "what if everything goes terribly good?" is stronger.

 

[Brontosaurie]

lol

half amen to that

what of the other half?

are you amen'ing some other dude? man

 

[Ex-User (5841)]

I'm not sure there's an indicator, it just happens and I react. Sometimes it's salvageable.

Where's THD when you need him?

Finding YOLO a new fetish.

 

[onesteptwostep]

what of the other half?

are you amen'ing some other dude? man

I don't necessarily agree with "it might fool other people"

I think what you really mean is, 'people may misunderstand'.

 

[dark+matters]

@dark+matters? When you've gotten a satisfactory answer (no rush, it's your thread after all), can you officiate the transformation of this thread into a terrible, terrible idea thread? Pretty please?

Oh, sure! Let's see... terrible, terrible ideas... how about maintaining carefully selected, lactating harp seals which raise our babies under controlled conditions until our infants begin teething so that we can start evolving into mer-people? We could rotate the mother harp seals out when they're "out of season," and always have mother seals that are in season if we create artificial Antarcticas. We'd save on shipping costs too if we kept the mother seals in frozen labs all across America.

 

[Brontosaurie]

I don't necessarily agree with "it might fool other people"

I think what you really mean is, 'people may misunderstand'.

i'd love to be taken for someone who cares about reality in a fatherly way it's a flattering misunderstanding.

so you're saying that people are to blame for any such confusion, rather than me or you? how come?

 

[onesteptwostep]

ahh no you're reading too much into it, (well as with I)

you know how what you say in word on paper (as opposed to words in sound) and what you convey in meaning are different things? it isn't necessarily a blaming people on the confusion that arises, it's just a underlining of how language can be interpreted. once there is argument, the blaming does arise, and it often leads back to words- words on paper and not what it actually conveyed. it's very subtle. but no, i am not blaming anyone- yet ;D

(nor do i think i blame anyone on anything at all tbh- well that just might be an intp thing idk)

 

[Pizzabeak]

When it isn't that funny anymore and never even actually was.

 

[Yellow]

Oh, sure! Let's see... terrible, terrible ideas... how about maintaining carefully selected, lactating harp seals which raise our babies under controlled conditions until our infants begin teething so that we can start evolving into mer-people? We could rotate the mother harp seals out when they're "out of season," and always have mother seals that are in season if we create artificial Antarcticas. We'd save on shipping costs too if we kept the mother seals in frozen labs all across America.

Okay, but we have to keep either the infants or the harp seals in suspension during feeding sessions to avoid our babies accidentally rolling over and smothering the seals.