Team of 5

[blogdogcop]

I've read a few articles within the internet about how an INTP could be aimless.
So you might find this strange.. at first that is.
So here is the situation..

I have a goal. That goal is to be rich enough to live a life of aimlessness.
"How will you do that?" .. some would ask. But the first question that needs
to be answered is.. "Who will do that?"
So here is the question..

In a team of 5, what personality types would be the best or highly reccomended to get amazingly rich in a span of 20 years?
I know it is an almost impossible feat. Why? Because i'm not talking about millions of money. I'm talking about billions. (what? sounds crazy? that's what we're famous for, eh? )

So here's my draft for the billionaire's blueprint.

INTP - that would be me. the king of the game. I assume i don't need to put up a short description?

ENTJ - the queen of the chessboard. I think this personality type is the perfect balance for an INTP in this kind of game.

These 2 personalities would be the inner core of the team.

ESTJ - I need this person's organizational skills. His impatience to inefficiency is a quality that i need. And last but not the least.. he gets things done.

ISFJ - The only other introvert in the scene. This person is highly valued for his observation capabilities. Best suited for a close-in adviser.

ENFP - This person is the last key to perfect balance in this team. I need the "politician" in the scene.

So what is the commonality in these five personality types?
All of them do not fit in with rank-in-file posts. That is the most important.
The least i need is a person who is bound to think as a rank-in-file. That strand of thought is an obstacle big enough to bring down the outer core of the team. Why only the outer core? Because I am confident that an INTP and and ENTJ (with the same love for money) offers countless possibilities in terms of partnership.

Agh it's hard to explain it all. But with your help i would eventally get clearer and more specific views on this matter. So... comments/suggestions/violent reactions?

 

[snafupants]

You could buy a skimask and rob some banks tomorrow and you would be set right there.

 

[dark]

... So what is the INTP going to do in the team? If the goal is to just be aimless, then the INTP participating will most likely just be aimless and drag the team down, but if the INTP actually wanted to do something other than get money, then I could see a force helping the team, as of yet an aimless INTP would be a tag along. And what kind of business would you be going into? And is getting money all that important?

 

[blogdogcop]

... So what is the INTP going to do in the team? If the goal is to just be aimless, then the INTP participating will most likely just be aimless and drag the team down, but if the INTP actually wanted to do something other than get money, then I could see a force helping the team, as of yet an aimless INTP would be a tag along.

the goal of being aimless comes after the getting rich part. It's the final box of the whole money making scheme. The current aim of the INTP is to make money and it will always be as long as the money making scheme is still existent.

The INTP in this scenario is currently obsessed with an aim. An INTP lives in a world of theories and logical reasoning. Do you see any other type with the same value for existence? I don't. That's why INTP's value in this scene is as important as the value of the ENTJ because by working together they can make pancakes out of sand.

Let's not forget the other team players.

The question "will the team be able to handle themselves without the INTP?"
The answer should be "yes". That is their sole purpose. To reach the INTP's goal with very minimal effort for the INTP.

"How will the INTP do such a thing?" That in itself is a whole new theory. Right now the focus is on -who- will do such things by just focusing on their personality.

"why just the personality?" Because it is the INTP is not interested going deeper than understanding their personalities. That is the role of the ENTJ (who is partnered with INTP thus making them equal) in the team.

"why not just let the ENTJ lead the whole team alone?" ENTJ's personality has holes that ideally, an INTP would be able to see and think of thories and think logically as to how to solve these problems caused by ENTJ's loopholes.

And what kind of business would you be going into? And is getting money all that important?

What kind of business? That will come after i get into contact with the team players.

"is getting money all the important?"

Let's see..

My view of a moneyless INTP

moneyless-INTP: ahhh i'm aimless and hungry. please sponsor my hunger so i can buy some bread...!

Other-person: look that INTP person is aimless and hungry

Other-person2: ha! serves him right! don't give him any!



My view of a rich INTP

rich-INTP: ahhhh im aimless and hungry. but no worries! i've got a million dollars to buy bread!

Other-person: look that INTP person is aimless and hungry and RICH!

Other-person2: give him free bread! He's rich! We might get more customer's because of him!

OR

Other-person2: Hey INTP buy our bread! I'll give you discounts!


LOL do you see what i mean?
To explain in a few words, getting money is important because i want to help the hungry people in the world! Kidding.


Getting money is important because logically, it gives me more resources to satisfy my curiosity.

 

[EyeSeeCold]

Getting money is important because logically, it gives me more resources to satisfy my curiosity.

This right here proves that INTPs and ENTJs are mirrors and share Ni, Te, Fi, Se. I have a million things I'd like to spend money on, but then I'd be broke. That's why I love pirating.

But back on topic. This is one interesting plan. Presently I only have contact with ISFJ and ENTJ, so I couldn't do it myself.

Though you still didn't specify the players' actual roles in making the money, except ENTJ and INTP to some degree. The former comes up with a plan and the latter fine tunes it right?

 

[dark]

Haha so INTPs are mirrors of ENTJs, so that just leaves us ENTPs to be mirrors of INTJs... interesting, is it this way with all types, or something similiar?

Guess my main problem was this when reading, "Is money really that important?" - No, money is only an obstacle(odd looking word, no?). Yes I use money to buy shit with, but I don't really need it in masses, just enough.

But to work your little experiment, the grandest scheme would to be to include an ESTP to probably replace the ENFP, that way you could con the entire world to just hand over money, small amounts but it all adds up.

@EyeSeeCold, yeah I have millions of things I want to buy, and I usually do, which is why I never have money, but they go to good causes, like fuel my interest and my seek of knowledge.

 

[blogdogcop]

But back on topic. This is one interesting plan. Presently I only have contact with ISFJ and ENTJ, so I couldn't do it myself.

Yay so you think it's interesting too? great!
I too can't do it at present because i only have contact with ENTJ.

Though you still didn't specify the players' actual roles in making the money, except ENTJ and INTP to some degree. The former comes up with a plan and the latter fine tunes it right?

Yep you got it right on the spot. I'll have to go back to my drawing board (more like imagination) to asses the roles of each team player. Thank you for pointing that out. I almost forgot it out of excitement haha .

But what do you think of the outer core personalities? But i think we'll see how they fit in once i come up with the roles. Aw man I love this! :smiley_emoticons_mr

 

[EyeSeeCold]

Haha so INTPs are mirrors of ENTJs, so that just leaves us ENTPs to be mirrors of INTJs... interesting, is it this way with all types, or something similiar?

Yes. It is most obvious with ENTJ/INTP(Money pinchers) ENFJ/INFP(Romanticizers) and INFJ/ENFP(Counselors) though.

 

[blogdogcop]

But to work your little experiment, the grandest scheme would to be to include an ESTP to probably replace the ENFP, that way you could con the entire world to just hand over money, small amounts but it all adds up.

HAHA yes that could be a way! As long as the blame all goes on this ESTP guy

 

[EyeSeeCold]

But what do you think of the outer core personalities?

ENFP - Skills: Easily disarm people with kindness
ISFJ - Skills: Personal and devoted adviser
ESTJ - Skills: A knack for efficiency and practicality

 

[Cavallier]

So you want a 5 man team to rob a bank yes?

Drop the ISFJ and get an ISTJ instead. She/He'll be the fall guy.

 

[blogdogcop]

So you want a 5 man team to rob a bank yes?

Drop the ISFJ and get an ISTJ instead. She/He'll be the fall guy.

Nooo not to rob a bank
Look at my first post. I'm not evil . heeheehee


Back to the goal...

I came up with an idea.

INTP - the brain of the whole project

ENTJ - the backbone

ENFP - the face

ISTP - the arms

ESTJ - the limbs

I don't know how to describe each yet. I'm having a hard time finding the words to express what's in my head. I'll just get back to it later :P

 

[Cavallier]

Nooo not to rob a bank
Look at my first post. I'm not evil . heeheehee

Oh, I read it. I just decided to disregard it and go for the bank job idea. Because, you know, I am evil.

Seriously though, what are your plans for this 5 man "Not-A-Heist-Job" team? Are you talking about some sort of board for running a company with the best profit potential?

 

[blogdogcop]

Oh, I read it. I just decided to disregard it and go for the bank job idea. Because, you know, I am evil.

Seriously though, what are your plans for this 5 man "Not-A-Heist-Job" team? Are you talking about some sort of board for running a company with the best profit potential?

It could be a company. It could also be just a group of people doing some not-so-legal stuff LOL . It could go any way it would go. I don't want to think of a plan set in my mind because i would be driven to stick to that plan which i don't really like [or i could get bored with that plan and just throw a grenade to the whole idea vanishing it to a bottomless pit with an "unloved ideas over here" sign ]. Besides, another reason why i need to gather these people is to come up with a plan.

A one-person-plan is simply not good enough.

 

[Cavallier]

Ah, okay. I suggest a group of 3 for planning. Groups of 5 never get anything done. Not without a fair amount of in-fighting or at least a bit of bickering. (Heh, take a look at any board meeting in the world to see the truth of this.) Three is unbalanced to the point of keeping ideas flowing but not so unbalanced as to stop the flow of ideas.

That being said I'd go with an INTP, an ENTJ, and a confident ENFP. (We'll assume that all three are well-balanced and healthy mentally/emotionally. The ENFP may get a little stepped on if the other two aren't careful.) The INTP and the ENTJ work well together if they have the same goal. The ENFP sees the world in a completely different manner from the other two and makes a natural arbiter. This person will keep the softer feeling side of things in mind which the INTP and the ENTJ will forget about if not reminded.

 

[blogdogcop]

Ah, okay. I suggest a group of 3 for planning. Groups of 5 never get anything done. Not without a fair amount of in-fighting or at least a bit of bickering. (Heh, take a look at any board meeting in the world to see the truth of this.) Three is unbalanced to the point of keeping ideas flowing but not so unbalanced as to stop the flow of ideas.

That being said I'd go with an INTP, an ENTJ, and a confident ENFP. (We'll assume that all three are well-balanced and healthy mentally/emotionally. The ENFP may get a little stepped on if the other two aren't careful.) The INTP and the ENTJ work well together if they have the same goal. The ENFP sees the world in a completely different manner from the other two and makes a natural arbiter. This person will keep the softer feeling side of things in mind which the INTP and the ENTJ will forget about if not reminded.

Haha you got me!

I was thinking "what if i make a group out of INTP, ENTJ, and ISTP. That would be like a world conquering kind of team! World domination!! yeah!!!!" or something like that...

So yeah.. ENFP will keep INTP and ENTJ's morality. LOL

On the serious side:

Yes ENFP will play a crucial role in that setting.
Thank you for that reminder!

I'm still lingering on the 5-person planning. Board meetings aren't as bad as it seems haha (hopefully!). But 3-person planning i agree would be more effective.

And that gives me a new idea!

Since i am already in contact with ENTJ, I would just have to look for ENFP to start my big scheme. The rest could just follow.

 

[dark]

@EyeSeeCold, I think the reason INTP and ENTJ mirror one another is both have the dominate function of T, and ENTP and INTJ have the N dominance, guess it would be similiar all throught the chart. Very interesting, also realized most of my friends in high school were ENTJ, a couple ISTPs and ENFPs and that is about it, lots of ENTJs, really odd I guess.

 

[EyeSeeCold]

@EyeSeeCold, I think the reason INTP and ENTJ mirror one another is both have the dominate function of T, and ENTP and INTJ have the N dominance, guess it would be similiar all throught the chart. Very interesting, also realized most of my friends in high school were ENTJ, a couple ISTPs and ENFPs and that is about it, lots of ENTJs, really odd I guess.

The mirror I refer to explicitly relies on the supposition that INTPs and ENTJs have Te, Ni, meaning they share the same sentiments, just at different levels.

The mirror of them both being dominant thinkers would have a different effect, because one is intensive(Ti) and the other is extensive(Te).

 

[shoeless]

i'm confused. is this an actual thing?

if so, it seems rather... impractical.

 

[Anthile]

I got myself a winning team / It's Me, Myself and I

 

[EvilScientist Trainee]

I came up with an idea.

INTP - the brain of the whole project

ENTJ - the backbone

ENFP - the face

ISTP - the arms

ESTJ - the limbs

I don't know how to describe each yet. I'm having a hard time finding the words to express what's in my head. I'll just get back to it later :P

And then, the whole plan would fall, as it would be represented as a torsoless entity.

But anyways, that's a fun idea. It's kind of entertaining to imagine all these types - and why not, the others that were not included - acting together towards a goal. The only thing i'm a bit worried about is that this SP might do things too much impulsively, and that may put the plan at risk.

And, just like someone else said, also thought we were going to rob a bank. Or a cassino.

 

[Deleted member 1424]

I see a rich INTP killing themselves out of boredom or existential angst if this succeeds.

edit:
Well I suppose it's not that unlikely for the proletariat INTP either.

 

[blogdogcop]

i'm confused. is this an actual thing?

if so, it seems rather... impractical.

Yes this is an actual thing.

About it being impractical... it really is.(if you base the practicality on starting up a business)

But it is practical in more than two ways.
1. internet
2. something illegal
3. everything else that starts with "impracticality"

My mind setting is not within the productivity set by on-the-date standards.
It's like im planning for a miracle. (some would say)
But the way i see it, i'm planning for the easiest way to get what i want.

So.. got any ideas for me?

 

[blogdogcop]

And then, the whole plan would fall, as it would be represented as a torsoless entity.

But anyways, that's a fun idea. It's kind of entertaining to imagine all these types - and why not, the others that were not included - acting together towards a goal. The only thing i'm a bit worried about is that this SP might do things too much impulsively, and that may put the plan at risk.

And, just like someone else said, also thought we were going to rob a bank. Or a cassino.

the SP??? what might they do??

*pretending not to panic* hahaha

 

[blogdogcop]

I see a rich INTP killing themselves out of boredom or existential angst if this succeeds.

edit:
Well I suppose it's not that unlikely for the proletariat INTP either.

I hope that won't happen. (in case the INTP succeeds- oh wait. he will! LOL)

 

[EyeSeeCold]

The only thing i'm a bit worried about is that this SP might do things too much impulsively, and that may put the plan at risk.

Well if you're going to think like that:
The INTP might get bored on the first day.
The ENFP might spend all the money.
The ENTJ might take over and waste anyone who objects.
The ESTJ might be an undercover cop.

 

[BigApplePi]

Your team of 5 will work only on one condition. You need a billion dollar idea. Where are you going to get this idea?

I read recently, I forget where, one billionaire had the idea to ship furniture (was it furniture?) by packing all the pieces in the most compact box instead of fully assembled. This saved so much money he got to be that billionaire.

 

[blogdogcop]

Your team of 5 will work only on one condition. You need a billion dollar idea. Where are you going to get this idea?

I read recently, I forget where, one billionaire had the idea to ship furniture (was it furniture?) by packing all the pieces in the most compact box instead of fully assembled. This saved so much money he got to be that billionaire.

Where? I have no idea. hahaha
It will just happen.. like a eureka moment (that's the preferred way of course)
If the idea gets stuck in traffic we'll just have to burn each other's brain lol

 

[shoeless]

what makes it impractical is how you're going to find these people, how you're going to get these people to agree to your idea (whatever it is...?), and how you can even make sure they are what their "type" says they are and whether or not they will act like what their "type" says they will.

but hey, go crazy.

 

[Anthile]

Now I remember what this thread reminds me of...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r3sV4k-mNa0

 

[blogdogcop]

what makes it impractical is how you're going to find these people, how you're going to get these people to agree to your idea (whatever it is...?), and how you can even make sure they are what their "type" says they are and whether or not they will act like what their "type" says they will.

but hey, go crazy.

How will i find these people?
If i pray hard enough maybe they will come to me? lol
kidding. In the same way i meet people. I'm too lazy to actually
look for them. I'll just have to believe that they will appear
before my eyes someday. Believing would be my first step haha.
Gah seriously though.. my options are limitless.

How to make them agree? I guess that would depend on my skills in the art
of persuasion... hahaha

How do i make sure?
Through my sixth sense. LOL
It would involve a lot of observation, intuition, perception, thinking, judgement and gambling. The gamble makes it just more fun haha

 

[EvilScientist Trainee]

the SP??? what might they do??

*pretending not to panic* hahaha

Well if you're going to think like that:
The INTP might get bored on the first day.
The ENFP might spend all the money.
The ENTJ might take over and waste anyone who objects.
The ESTJ might be an undercover cop.

Since I was thinking about bank robbery, i thought that the SP might be the 'trigger happy' person. But under these glasses, yeah, it's not the only thing to worry about.