Te and planning

[sushi]

comes better as we age and grow older and using the prefrontal cortex

i used to be suck , random and disorganized, but now as i age, i get better planning and doing things.

its not my dominant function, because i dont see the point of taking it to an extreme like a INTJ ENTJ , ESTJ etc, but it seems natural as you age and have.

some people might confuse me as an INTJ but i am not one. the bottom line is that Te just comes as your prefrontal cortex matures.

 

[Morrow]

I think that even when you are younger your Te can still be an apparent function especially when it is your dominant function. However, as you said, the older you get the more control you are going to have over this function, just like you will have over any of your functions. It really depends on the environment that you grow up in and how your mind is allowed to develop especially in your younger years.

 

[nanook]

Te is not about planing from within, its about being in a logical relationship with your environmental logical factors, so for example responding to a legal necessity or trading opportunity - so the so called plans of Te arise from the environment, from a meeting, etc and they are very dynamic.

Our initial difficulty with this is that we do not understand or respect the protocols that are involved and we hate their restrictions and fear their consequences. Better understanding of the outside world would be helpful. Its not exactly a psychological development. Its a learning from experience.

If you are INTP or INFP, what you are struggling with, in regards to having your own planning from within, is both the immaturity of tertiary Si and much more so the total absence of Ni.

Ni is defining yourself as someone who has a certain priority, a clearly defined way, something that you're all about, that you must accomplish, for at least a period of time, until its done, not just subjectively (what understanding you seek) but what you must mean to the world. Such dreams are usually deconstructed by our iconocastic Ne and for us, it requires complicated circumstantial incentives, that will convince us, that one possible manifestation of will stands out as being superior to others or as being absolutely required. Its like we only dare to become someone with a solid goal, when we are forced to.

Immaturity of Si is more uncomplicated. Si just grows organically. Initially we have unconscious routines that may be silly but we can get thinking involved to upgrade our habitual preferences, so they consist of powerful tools, such as good diet, sleeping routines, etc, so the same repetitiveness, that once made us seem lazy, makes us more efficient at ... staring at opportunities as they pass by. you could set up a script that watches youtube videos for you and posts a comment under each: cool lifestyle bro, but i'd rather watch another video before commuting.


If an I**P can be confused for being Te dominant, they are probably I*FP, because the rigid, bookish appeal to authority or authoritarianism of Te, the protocol fetish, the demand to force an involvement with everything upon everyone, concepts like duty and guilt and submission, these are the perfect antitesis to Ti but align well with Fi.

 

[sushi]

it is long term plans and idea, and working towards your goal

the prefrontal cortex is also associated with long term planning, whhich is less developed when one is young.

reducing uncertainy

strong te people hates uncertainty and failure and randomness, so they compulsively plan and set milestones to make sure they reach their goal . I dont have that kind of aversion, so i dont plan as much.

 

[sushi]

I think that even when you are younger your Te can still be an apparent function especially when it is your dominant function. However, as you said, the older you get the more control you are going to have over this function, just like you will have over any of your functions. It really depends on the environment that you grow up in and how your mind is allowed to develop especially in your younger years.

yes, was pretty disorganized and prone to waste time in my younger years, lost in confused, with no sense of purpose or direction. some te in later years force a person to develop organization, sense of direction, and having a long term aim or goal to work towards. public schooling is very much trains your te , all the schedules, predictability, and organizing your notes, meeting deadlines, but it was a terrible experience for people like me.

 

[Black Rose]

The matto of Te is:
What works, works.
It is very unprejudiced that way.
Ti, on the other hand, looks for the most complete solutions. it is (meta-algorithmic)

Once Te has found something that works it becomes disinterested in other solutions.
But when I find something that works only partially I have to start over.
Ti organizes all solutions / partial solutions and then discovers missing solutions.
Ti as said looks for completeness in what it is looking for.
Te just wants to get its hands dirty following multiple leads but partially.

 

[Black Rose]

@nanook

Ni is not something that necessitates a goal. It is still a perception you understand. An internalized perception like Si is internal. Ni is symbolical. It looks into the psyche as a reflection of self. So first a person sees everything as being the self. And then as all is self one can change/predict reality from inside the persons self.

Si acts odd thought. What happens with Si is this. Si thinks that all that comes from within is coming from the external.

Ni sees the external as part of the self unconscious.
Si sees the internal as coming from the external when it is already internal, not external.

This is the duality of internal perception.