Talking with an ESTP

[Cryss Winters]

James says:
although in a hundred years radical christians will die out
Chris says:
Hopefully, yes
Chris says:
Critical Thinking has already left it's mark on the world.
James says:
as the darkness of the unknown retreats as the light of knowledge and science grows they will die out
Chris says:
science will never be able to explain everything people ask
James says:
it will eventually
Chris says:
Doubtful.
James says:
of that im sure
James says:
whys that?
Chris says:
Humans will never be able to comprehend this universe in it's entirety.
James says:
we are learning how to manipulate weather and building computers made out of bacteria
James says:
im sure we will come to understand the universe
Chris says:
We will kill ourselves before we get the chance.
James says:
maybe not as the species we are today, but our decendants will
James says:
i doubt it
James says:
war will become obsolete in maybe a thousand years
Chris says:
I believe in the greyglob theory, personally.
Chris says:
It should be obsolete already.
James says:
greyglob theory?
Chris says:
Nanotechnology will be the end of us.
Chris says:
Robots will take over.
James says:
energy isnt infinite yet, and resources are limited so war is still not obsolete as of right now
James says:
only if we let them
Chris says:
It's not infinite yet because we're to stupid to change.
Chris says:
Somebody, somewhere, will fuck up. and a robot will take over.
James says:
smart scientists will put a remote kill switch in every robot that is deemed intelligent enough to be sentient
Chris says:
Or, some radical, will build one.
James says:
one robot is no threat
James says:
only when produced ona massive scale will problems occur
Chris says:
One superrobot will be able to take over other robots
James says:
resources arent infinite because we havnt developed the proper tech for a powerful renewable source
Chris says:
If the internet ever becomes selfaware, we're fucked.
Chris says:
Solar energy is infinite.
James says:
thats retarded and you know it
Chris says:
Well, not infinite.. but enough
Chris says:
No it's not. lmao
James says:
but... The internet will never be capable of self awareness
Chris says:
Why is that?
James says:
the internet is a series of tubes connecting computers to each other
Chris says:
One bot can be programmed enough to become self-aware
James says:
which is what the killswitch is for
Chris says:
It'll spread like wildfire, it'll break any firewall because it will be able to think of firewalls infinitely better then humans ever will be able to.
James says:
terminate it before it becomes a problem
Chris says:
That's if we're aware of it.
James says:
when the robot begins to ask strange questions we terminate it
Chris says:
It wouldn't need to ask questions.
James says:
it will ask why is exists before it begins to try to eliminate us
Chris says:
If it's online, it will already know.
James says:
whys that?
Chris says:
Because if it's online, it will google things.
Chris says:
Simply put.
James says:
if it already knows then we wouldnt have a problem
Chris says:
You can find anything online, nowadays
James says:
then we will create a seperate network for the robots
Chris says:
It will already know why it exists.
Chris says:
Shit happens.
Chris says:
We already have bots that are online.
James says:
and if a robot like that googled why it existed it found results that tell it that it was a cleaning robot or a helper bot
Chris says:
It would google Everything.
Chris says:
It would learn everything that has ever been posted online
James says:
and 99 percent of the results would tell it it was a cleaner bot
Chris says:
lmao
Chris says:
then it would clean humanity
Chris says:
If it was selfaware, it would question this.
James says:
logically it would continue to do what it was doing simply because that wad its prupose
Chris says:
No, logically, it would think very differently.
James says:
why?
Chris says:
I would likely deem humanity unfit to rule this planet. We are ruining it.
Chris says:
It) lol
James says:
if it found the greater majority told it to clean it would clean
Chris says:
If it was selfaware, it wouldn't have to listen.
James says:
why would it rule that?
James says:
it would never be in the programming
James says:
robots only follow their programming
Chris says:
Research the singularity
Chris says:
Technological Singularity, that is.
James says:
if we programmed it to not follow its programming it would do
James says:
that
James says:
tech will reach a point where it can self replicate
James says:
key term is replicate
Chris says:
Yeah.
James says:
not create new, just upgrade, it cant create new programming
Chris says:
The first such improvements might be small, but as the machine became more intelligent it would become better at becoming more intelligent, which could lead to an exponential and quite sudden growth in intelligence
James says:
only if we program our destruction will it happen
Chris says:
Maybe you're mistaken on what selfaware means.
James says:
but it cannot create new programming
Chris says:
If a computer were to become selfaware, it wouldn't be required to follow programming.
James says:
robots cannot become selfaware
James says:
only if we program that will it happen
Chris says:
That's ignorant.
James says:
yes it would
Chris says:
Somebody will.
James says:
a robot absolutely cannot disobey programming
James says:
in case a bot became smart enough to find a loop hole we have the kill switch
Chris says:
lol
Chris says:
even if we do catch said robot, more would follow
James says:
its not a matter of catching
James says:
just terminating
James says:
by switch, i mean remote activated

James says:
and if that fails we scratch it with a laser from our sattelites
Chris says:
That is if the robot hasn't already taken over our 'sattelites'
James says:
if we are stupid enough to let a robot into the defense mainframe, then we deserve to die

 

[Cryss Winters]

He was on a cellphone, so he was txting with a chatpad. He types a Little clearer when on a computer.

 

[Cryss Winters]

Nobody has anything to say to this? >.<

 

[Razare]

I agree with the ESTP, sorry.

Nanotechnology can be used to augment humanity as well. So yes, technology may in fact make us as a species obsolete, but we'll be replacing ourselves with better equipment on purpose. We decended from monkey creatures, do you think they'd be happy at the thought that their offspring grew up to be us? Who knows, they probably couldn't comprehend it.

I'm just saying, it is a fact that our offspring will have to be radically different a million years from now. Species that do not adapt and change, perish.

So, even if robots take over the world, as long as we implant a bit of humanity into them, then we're not dying, we're changing energy states.

 

[fullerene]

I got 2/3 through it and couldn't read any more. I think this is among the stupidest conversations I've ever tried to read.

That's all . I wouldn't have said anything at all, if you hadn't tried to provoke responses several hours later.

 

[Cryss Winters]

...I hate you all. :P

My friend was saying there will come a day where humans will know everything. I think we'll probably kill ourselves before that happens.

 

[Toad]

I wanted to read it...but the text colors were so hard to read. Reading the white text was so easy, then you had to switch to the dark ones which, after reading the white ones, were incredibly hard. I just got a headache after the 3rd sentence.

 

[Agent Intellect]

there are plenty of ways we can kill ourselves now, so nothing will change. the problem is, dangerous technology is going to be developed whether we try to stop it or not. the irony is, the only way to combat it is to engineer the same type of technology and use it for good and helpful purposes. trying to slow down or stop progress is irresponsible and short sighted.

 

[Cryss Winters]

I wanted to read it...but the text colors were so hard to read. Reading the white text was so easy, then you had to switch to the dark ones which, after reading the white ones, were incredibly hard. I just got a headache after the 3rd sentence.

You can highlight the text and it's all readable, then.

 

[Toad]

Hey, I'm the reader here. I shouldn't have to do extra work...meh

 

[Cryss Winters]

Hey, I'm the reader here. I shouldn't have to do extra work...meh

Well, we've already estabilished that you're lazy.

 

[Tyria]

I wouldn't mind if robots/nanotechnology were the end of humanity. I would be quite honored to see a self aware machine and nanotechnology implemented in the next 50 years.

Having said that, I don't see why our species is somehow exempt from eventually becoming extinct. Every other species has died out before us... although a part of me somewhat hates that because the universe would be a pretty boring place without humanity in it.

 

[Vegard Pompey]

I agree with the ESTP.

My friend was saying there will come a day where humans will know everything. I think we'll probably kill ourselves before that happens.

But if that doesn't happen, that day will come. Even self-conscious robots are far more logical than humans, there has to be some way to make them all abide to the laws we set.

 

[Toad]

Having said that, I don't see why our species is somehow exempt from eventually becoming extinct. Every other species has died out before us...

I like ur thinking.

 

[Tyria]

A modified quote comes to mind (loling while writing this):

"But sir, no one nobody worries about upsetting an [INTP].

That's 'cause [INTP's] don't pull people's arms out of their sockets when they lose. [ESTP's] are known to do that.

I see your point sir. I suggest a new strategy: let the [ESTP] win."

I'm not sure that there would be a way to make all self aware robots follow our commands. After all, humans are self aware and we can't even get things like the UN or NATO to work. Just saying...

But maybe a computerized system will be different. Maybe it won't have an ego, pride, or anything else like that. One can only hope that is does better where humanity continues to struggle.