Symbiotic Neural Network

[dark]

The human mind and human body have a connection in which we can't necessarily tell the difference between them, most assume we are one, others think they are two different forms and connected through some cosmos phenomenon, or something of the sort.
But this is neither the case. We are both the human brain, the mind, and the body is our slave. Intern be have become one being, completely indifferential between our two parts. The mind is incorporated into the brain, but we are only the mind, the brain does things that our mind cannot at times, etc. The brain and body share a symbiotic relationship. One time in the past the brain was some floating thing in water, probably similiar to the jelly fish creature. And along floated a multicelled organism, it would driff aimlessly, without reason, engulfing many things, even other of these primative brains. The brain's some how noticed they could interlace their own selves with these floating bodies, so the first brain body began, the body now became the slave of the brain, the brain was happy, it could now move like the bodies, and it could do the things it could only before think of, the brain too was happy because the brains connected to it had been making it's consumption easier, it could actaully find food without randomness.
But the happiness didn't last long, both the brain and the body wanted more, the body would eventually wear down because the brain only took from it, and eventually became rebelious, it would not longer just have the brain take things from it, so the brain ingeniously figured out a stimulus reward system, if the body did things it wanted it, things that benifited the brain, it would send signals that the body liked as rewards. Along with this came the pain sensory system, when the brain sensed it was being hurt from something the body did, it would send painful signals to hurt the body, to make it stop.
Eventually the body wanted even more pleasant signals, and as the brain bodies began to multiply the brains realized they benifited from being around other brain bodies. From this the brain bodies eventually began reproducing amongst one another, but the bodies had to have a stimulus for this also. Eventually the brain formulated chemical reactions to simulate all our emotions, anger, love, happiness, hatred, jealousy, lust, etc.
Eventually the body began to learn that the brain was very useful, and sometimes it would get damaged because it was just on the outside, then the brain would be almost useless, and the body suffered. So the bodies began to bring in the brains, eventually the DNA equivalent of each became infused, part of one being. The brain body became just the body, but a uesful body, no longer was in aimless, it had purpose. After all this the body was still unhappy, it had its brain but there was still only a primative comunications system between them, a form of stimulus of pleasure and pain. Now that the brains were safely tucked away, they no longer had to fear being destroyed, because the bodies were doing a good job at protecting them longer. Intern the brain started devising a system inwhich the body could communicate better with itself, or the brain and body. What unfolded was the mind. The gateway. We humans are the mind, we are not the body or the brain, just the gateway between them. Some of us feel the body, some of us think the brain, we each do both but we usually stick to one more.
Now that I have stated that the brain and body share a symbiotic relationship and the mind is merely gateway between them, I must state that all animals do not have this. The mind is not present in all things, but one must remember not just humans have the mind. But the connection gateway is strongest between the human than other animals. Plant life has no brain, it only runs on a body, it has no stimulus, it has no symbiotic organism telling it to do things, giving pleasure and pain like animals do.
We have no record of the brain organisms because they cannot exist long by themselves, they were symbiotic organisms. And because of millions of years of evolution the brain has completely fooled the body and the gateway mind into thinking it is but one thing. While the mind is only part of neural network I wonder if the brain gave part of itself up to satisfy the body, gave it simple functions to perform, making it believe they are now one.

Ok I know most will think this is ignorant, and it probably is, but my Ne just came up with it, so I need to write it down before I forget it. Anyways, what do you think about this idea?

 

[EyeSeeCold]

Very interesting . To think that we are actually a 3 part system. Although could not the brain also be part of the body? And what about the heart? And all other organs?

Personally, I think we are fused between two dimensions or planes of existence, with the body as the medium.

 

[dark]

I would figure that the organs inside the body like heart and all were already primative parts of the body figure, which did only basic functions, when the brain took over, it began reconfiguring things making them work more efficient, adding more complex structures as things became better resulting in what we currently understand as organs. The only reason I came up with this idea was trying to understand the pleasure pain reward system the brain and body shared, if it was completely one thing wouldn't there be no need for this kind of a system? Then all of a sudden I stumbled on the symbiotic word and the images started to form in my head so I rushed to type it all down before I forgot it, usually when I type something I will remember it, compared to when I just let it ramble out.

 

[EvilScientist Trainee]

While it's an interesting concept, it doesn't really applies to the reality more than an analogy.

Of course, we've seen similar things happen before. Otherwise, we'd have no mitochondria. But the brain associating to the body, I don't really think so. The key to that is cellular differenciation to maintain a balance. At first, we were small groups of cells. As our size was small, the communication of threats and cell damage was pretty easy: All you had to do was send a chemical process and your neighbouring cells would adapt to the stimullus.

As we got more complex, we developed organs to do our functions. Some groups of cells would specialize in recognizing changes, while other would specialize in sending chemical signals. Many other groups worked towards mantaining a good environment to these cell groups, and we had to develop more complex means of nutrition, we had to develop more complex means of excretion and we had to spread that to all cells.

We then developed more developed cell damage mechanisms, glands. We developed a vascular system to spread nutritients, a digestive system to process nutrients and we developed a excretion system to clean out the unnecessary.

While chemical signals worked well enough, as we further increased in complexity and number of cells, some barriers were encountered, such as saturation of cells receptors, higher demand of signals to be met that glands couldn't supply on a reasonable time. Only then, a group of cells differenciated themselves, making a connection to all the other groups, with no central structure yet.

As these cells used chemical signals in a paracrine way to each other only, but traveled distances with action potentials, the signaling became faster. A faster signaling allowed these groups of cells to get an increased adaptability. We further developed our skills, as we now had a better integration interface.

The further these skills got, more these cell groups had to be cohesive and coordinated. Then we got a brain, where a multitude of signals would meet and be answered.

Natural selection makes its role throughout times. And as time passes, the organism now had to deal with competing organisms, find ways to defend itself and procriate. The result of that is that the brain has to conform to strategy, tool-building and society.

Meeting these demands can be achieved by a more complicated brain, but the idea of consciousness arrives to give a better understanding of the environment, to provide more means to survive, as understanding a system can allow you to better adapt to it.

The many branches of this understanding have thus made us able to think about many issues. That's when we started questioning everything. We started working outside instinct as intellect have shown itself a better way to adapt.

And now i don't even remember what i was answering. Got caught up on this spore-y thing.

Edit: Now about the philosophical questions that stems from that is one i hadn't thought too deeply about. I would say i agree with what EyeSeeCold has said.

 

[LPolaright]

I got from it several things:

- The brain had less boundaries when it was not tied to the body (mentally).
- As of lately our world wide society has begun regressing more to the body rather than the mind.
- The brain doesn't have to go through the mind getaway, it can stimuli the body directly.
- The mind getaway can also stimulate the body but with certain boundaries
- The body can fool the brain with visual trickery and illusions

Question is, can the mind fool the brain and the body?