Stereotypes

[nearfantastica]

INTPs are supposedly content with merely analysing the novel. I'm intuitive dominant through and through, but seriously question how well I fit under that point. I most definitely desire to partake in the novel; to seek thrilling experiences. That sounds like Se, no? The thing is, as I said, I'm an intuitive type. I score 80%+ on the N side with MBTI tests, and, in general, think like an intuitive with Ne (...as far as I'm aware). It just so happens that on top of being happy in my internal world, I yearn for more from the external world as well.

Why...the desire for excitement? Have I perhaps tragically mistyped myself?

Sometimes I'll be sitting on the computer at 3am and suddenly think: "I want to do something stupid and reckless a whole hell of a lot right about now." I especially love spontaneity...

 

[Base groove]

INTPs are supposedly content with merely analysing the novel. I'm intuitive dominant through and through, but seriously question how well I fit under that point. I most definitely desire to partake in the novel; to seek thrilling experiences. That sounds like Se, no? The thing is, as I said, I'm an intuitive type. I score 80%+ on the N side with MBTI tests, and, in general, think like an intuitive with Ne (...as far as I'm aware). It just so happens that on top of being happy in my internal world, I yearn for more from the external world as well.

Why...the desire for excitement? Have I perhaps tragically mistyped myself?

Sometimes I'll be sitting on the computer at 3am and suddenly think: "I want to do something stupid and reckless a whole hell of a lot right about now." I especially love spontaneity...

All in all, I'd say INTJ, bud. (Thread title: stereotypes)

Intuitive dominant - well that's just not the same thing as thinking dominant. Maybe you didn't mean dominant (or maybe you did ... )

The desire for excitement from the external world yada yada, recklessness and impulsivity, urges for action that come from nowhere ... people call this inferior Se.

When your consciousness is regularly defined by intuition and thinking then you are an NT type and one is going to be dominant over the other. They will have opposite attitudes.

Spontaneous urges to take action/seeking out experiences tends to rule out Ne as it is more concerned with spontaneous urges to find relationships and act towards a change in reality compared to mere experience. Ni, in turn, might be described as an integration process where experiences are passively absorbed via the unconscious Se and translated into consciousness through a holistic understanding/perception of completeness.

 

[Pizzabeak]

Is it possible for there to be 64,000(+?) different 'personality types'?

Seems like the main concern is being typed as a sensor... Who cares? Unless some cool person is watching and you want them to see you doing N stuff to give the impression you are 80%+ N.

If you do "N" stuff the majority of the day then spend one hour doing "S" stuff, don't worry, you're still probably N...? ENFP, dominant N, seem to enjoy spontaneity, because inferior Si.

 

[nearfantastica]

But... "INTJs are ambitious, self-confident, deliberate..." I am none of these things. While I admit I have the occasional flare and desire to have things organized, I am overall extremely fucking lazy. I can't finish anything, can't follow routines I set for myself. I kind of automatically ruled J out.

 

[nearfantastica]

Is it possible for there to be 64,000(+?) different 'personality types'?

Seems like the main concern is being typed as a sensor... Who cares? Unless some cool person is watching and you want them to see you doing N stuff to give the impression you are 80%+ N.

If you do "N" stuff the majority of the day then spend one hour doing "S" stuff, don't worry, you're still probably N...? ENFP, dominant N, seem to enjoy spontaneity, because inferior Si.

Valid point. It probably shouldn't matter that much, but I have this neurotic need to have an answer as near the truth as I suppose it can get.

I'm sure I'll just accept, at some point, that I'm an N with random S tendencies, haha.

 

[Ex-User (8886)]

I think have very similar situation. MBTI says I'm INTP. I think I want to be INTJ. But, sometimes when I'm thinking at night and there are simple thoughts that math, neuroscience, programming and all this shit science is fucking boring. Sometimes I just want to go by me feeling looking for really crazy things. OK, sciences can be interesting, but it won't give you the feelings. Dangerous and mad things give.

 

[redbaron]

It's not as though just because INTP's are supposed to enjoy analysis and abstraction that they never want to do anything exciting. If you're on the computer until 3am, maybe your mind/body is simply craving some change in pace both physically/mentally.

This desire on its own doesn't seem all that deterministic of a specific type, so much it seems to indicate that you're restless after a period of inactivity.

 

[Spocksleftball]

Why bother obsessing on this. All people, regardless of type, seek and fulfill their desires to do "stupid" things--especially when younger. Point is, no matter how N you are, you still need to feel the sidewalk a couple of times before you learn to rollerblade in your mind.

 

[PmjPmj]

But... "INTJs are ambitious, self-confident, deliberate..." I am none of these things. While I admit I have the occasional flare and desire to have things organized, I am overall extremely fucking lazy. I can't finish anything, can't follow routines I set for myself. I kind of automatically ruled J out.

Ignore the stereotypes; they are idealised to a fault.

Bold = characteristic of INxJ. Try INFJ, if you feel your thinking to be Ti rather than Te. As one myself, I identify.

 

[Base groove]

Ignore the stereotypes; they are idealised to a fault.

Bold = characteristic of INxJ. Try INFJ, if you feel your thinking to be Ti rather than Te. As one myself, I identify.

Agreed. INxJ aren't all they're cracked up to be by the profiles. I don't see any type with more potential to be self-defeating to be honest.

 

[Jennywocky]

Ne is open. It craves new data and wants to explore. Se, Ne? They're both Pe functions.

One of my issues is coming from a conservative background coupled with my need to manage risk, I ended up not doing a lot of exploring and "acting crazy" -- I was too ultra-responsible. Eventually it wears you down / gets to you, if you continue to rein yourself in too much. Pe wants to explore, Ti wants to understand. Experiences are part of that learning and exploring process.

 

[PmjPmj]

Agreed. INxJ aren't all they're cracked up to be by the profiles. I don't see any type with more potential to be self-defeating to be honest.

I agree, but I'd also love to hear your perceptions of why that is - if you can spare the time.

I'll share my own tomorrow. If I can be bothered

 

[nexion]

Abstractions are useful, but not all-encompassing.

 

[Pyropyro]

MBTI stereotypes are starting points, not cages.

 

[Spirit]

MBTI stereotypes are starting points, not cages.

MBTI is a cage
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