srs tym - plz halp

[Jennywocky]

oh god. yes. o__o

i'd rather have someone punch my face than hide behind a smile. i actually love to be criticized, to be yelled at in honest frustration. because being straightforward is the only real way to form a genuine relationship with someone.

one that doesn't feel stunted. you have to be willing to get dirty with them. let them show you their vileness, show them yours, and still accept each other afterward.

to say - we are human. i know you're flawed like me. let's not hide it, dammit! show me your true colors. i'll show you mines. be real with me. the honesty of it, the vileness of it makes me smile.

because how can you truly know me if all you see is the side that looks most pleasant to you? how can I be real with you that way. you see what you want to see, not me. you interact with who you want to interact, not me.

the honesty is refreshing. even if it stings. at least it means you consider me real. worth getting frustrated over. worth yelling at. at least you'd treat me like a person instead of some abstraction that demands politeness to remain at bay in your life.

God, you're ugly and vile.

i love you

 

[Reluctantly]

And now a picture for the forum family facade of sanity, good health, and enjoyable societal morals and values.

Say Cheese! Everyone smile!

 

[Jennywocky]

Oh, that looks SO deliciously like a Bill Sienkiewicz painting. How apropos.

 

[Cavallier]

And here I was wallowing in a super shitty day.

Now, you've all gone and cheered me up. I hate...why haven't we used the word "loathe" more?

I loathe you all but in a totally meaningful way.

 

[CoryJames]

Oh, that looks SO deliciously like a Bill Sienkiewicz painting. How apropos.

How can something look deliciously?

 

[EvilScientist Trainee]

I didn't felt like I should post in this thread. I'm no part of cheese's social life at all. But I had the urge to do so.

So, I've found this thread to be the most sincere form of hate ever. It's not like those teenager's shitty hate. It's like "I hate you, but I completely acknowledge your existence". It even goes as far as saying that's not a personal hate, or a misantrophy rampage.

It's just that you noticed that people don't shine. And i'm completely ok with this. Actually, despite going all "Life is about helping people" in some posts, I actually feel good about this thread. You're fucking right, cheese. People who are supposed to be silver, actually are shades of gray.

If we were drinking, I'd raise my mug and give you my best cheers.

(Not that this post is a rant about people I know IRL that have let me down)

 

[Reluctantly]

Oh, that looks SO deliciously like a Bill Sienkiewicz painting. How apropos.

The internet tells me it's someone named Dake McKean. I have no idea who that is, but that painting is awesome.

 

[Irishpenguin]

oh holy shit, what the thread for me to run across, dude, cheese, I'll be honest, I can't really help for shit with what you're talking about, So I don't really know what I even bothered to post this besides to at least say that you were one of the cool people that I remember reading on the forum. and you were cool enough for me to actually post something to at least try and help

And what the fuck dude, of course these fuckers are going to get dull after awhile, especially withe how many their are of them, it's just a matter of time, I made it easy on myself by really not giving a shit about the forum as a whole...at all really, I just nit picked the hell out of it and found all the people that I would actually give a shit about

I'm already thinking of not posting this this, but I'll go ahead and do it just because I think I should

I'll end with, Cheese, everything I read in the OP seemed completely acceptable, and beyond relatable, I mean sure, we're all shitheads, but you were starting to be one of the shitheads that I was gonna talk to, as corny as that sounded. whatever, You were cool Cheese, I remember that much. Good luck

 

[echoplex]

Geez, you people really suck! I mean, just look at how you do whatever cheese tells you. I bet if he (she? arrrgh!) told you to get naked and hug eachother you'd do that too, huh? You'd pretty much have to. It's discouraging to know just how much sway that little dino really has around here. Pretty soon we're gonna all be holding hands, really really hard until we break them, because that's what the sicko wants to see -- everyone close together in tremendous pain. They're easier to control that way, or so I've heard. You know he's videotaping this, right? It's going right on his website, alongside videos of all the other rape victims. Noddy's website, I mean. Cheese is obviously a girl.

And now I see that I too am compelled to say something in response. Just another fool. Dammit, cheese'n'friends! Fine, fine. I can't help but say I was nodding along in acknowledgement of the truth of one of cheese's last posts (you know which one, the GOOD one!), along with Jennywocky and Auburn's responses. It (that post/this thread) reminds me alot of an earlier thread Auburn started, which really created an atmosphere of openness. I recall having many thoughts about that thread, but I didn't say anything, mainly because I don't really feel I belong here anyway. I felt like anything I said would somehow pollute the atmosphere others had so beautifully created. I suppose I feel that way now too, but I just don't care as much about saying the wrong things as I used to. It's something I'm trying to get over.

One line of thought I recall is this: This place seems tragic to me. Not tragic in that it sucks -- it doesn't suck, I enjoy it. But tragic in that it often seems like potential is being wasted. Potential for people to communicate without all the boundaries already mentioned; without egos and facades; without fear of being wrong, silly, evil or stupid; without concern for how you fit in, whether you do, whether anyone does, or whether you 'seem like an INTP', an NT, or anything else. It seems tragic because there are occasional glimpses of that kind of openness, and the kind of interaction you see then makes you (well, makes me, at least) wish you saw it more often.

But then, I'm projecting. Badly. I say these things because I don't like the person I've become, and that's a personal problem I shouldn't project onto this forum. I care far too much about how I'm perceived, online or off. I'm usually afraid to say anything that might offend anyone. It's sickening, really. I doubt I've ever had the kind of open interaction with people that I admire from afar. I feel like I want it desperately but then I ensure it can't happen with my obsessiveness. Gah. I'm not at all well-equipped, it seems, to follow my own advice, and it's likely I'm just talking to myself here. I don't know. I think I'll shut up.

I'll say this though: I like snafu. What the hell is wrong with you, cheddah? Everyone pisses me off at some point though. Especially the 'established' members who just complain about other people's posts (like I'm doing right now) instead of risking looking stupid by posting some ideas of their own. Noobs are awesome because they'll say anything. They don't care about you and your stupid judgments. (it's possible I'm imagining all of this, but it seems true)

 

[Jennywocky]

The internet tells me it's someone named Dake McKean. I have no idea who that is, but that painting is awesome.

Dake? I'm hoping you meant Dave McKean, he's just as good.

EDIT: I just Google'd it. Your post was actually the second hit for "Dake McKean." The first hit was an entire thread about Dave McKean's joker from Arkham Asylum, so I guess the person whose post you saw [edit: Devan74, apparently] just fat fingered the keys.

McKean did all the covers for Neil Gaiman's "Sandman" series, plus a lot of other mixed media art including the Sandman tarot deck, stand-alone graphic novels. I think he even plays a mean sax if I remember correctly. He's awesome.

(Is that enough tangent now for you, Cheese? )

How can something look deliciously?

It's scrumdiddily YUMMMMers!!!

 

[RobertJ]

Welp, I'm glad the plumber finally showed up and installed the forum toilet. 'Tis that time of the year after all, and I suppose that we've been good girls and boys

Surely, Shoeless, you're not suggesting this thread should be considered for deletion! That would be... holy shit, that would officially signify that this forum has turned to utter rubbish. I mean we're already banning people for things they said on other forums.

NoID10ts: I don't really know you but I think I like you, man.

Bird: you could vomit in my bucket any day.

Cheese: something I have noticed about you is that you're transient. You have a way of becoming what you think - or at least adapting according to what you learn, because you experience knowledge more than anyone I've known. I have a great deal of admiration and respect for you, and realize the level of disservice in setting you down in ink within the pages of a personal storybook. Having done just that by ascribing certain characteristics and sentiment to you shows that I'm not entirely capable of experiencing.

Melkor: ...

 

[CoryJames]

Wow.

 

[cheese]

I don't get why so many of you think you don't belong. Do we all just need to create our own melodramatic threads to get the validation we need? Worked for me. I thought I was going to get slammed. echoplex you should follow suit. Jenny's done it, Melly's done it, Noddy's done it, I've(y) done it. It's a formula that can't fail. If only MJ made a forum thread. "dangleen babbie - plz halp"
-"Fuck, I hate children. Actually I love them. I just love them so much that I hate them and rape them and then impregnate them. Then dangle the spawn and use them as bait. Why can't we all be open about our paedophilia and elevation fetishes? Do you hatelove children too? Love, Michael." Sorry, that's a cheap shot. And now for the echoplex formula!

To get echoplex to respond to a thread, you need:
1 x echoplex compliment
....

And that's it!

You totally got me, by the way. The crushing hands - big hug - tremendous pain thing. That's how my head works. I'll love you with a bazooka. Noobs are awesome, you're right. I've found myself slipping into the judgemental old fogey role and I hate it. Thanks for reminding me. Also, you really are funny and a forum staple; it's weird that you don't see that but I guess everyone (except madmen like Noddy/Melkor) is in denial.

I bet 99% of the people in this place care what others think of them, even if they're not aware of it. I don't know if it's possible to overcome it completely, but I'm trying as well. Will that facilitate openness and meaningful interaction? I'm guessing/hoping it will, which is partly what all this was about. Deciding to face whatever came out of this was pretty useful, and fun at the same time. You're definitely not talking to yourself here. (That's how clearly you've differentiated your alters.)

Oh, and I don't dislike snafu. I don't even hate him, really. Actually I have no idea what my problem is with him. He's like the villain I love to hate. He infuriates me, but in a good way. Does that make sense?

Tangents running smoothly; I expect to land on Mars in the next 5 posts.

IrishPenguin:
You're unfailingly honest. I love it (when you're flattering me). No really, I love that (you'd cover me in cream and put me in a cone). I admire it, thanks for responding.

Wobert!
Widdle WobertWay! Why ware woo wuch wa wunnerful woomwoom! Wo wobwiging!

Auburn:
I agree completely. I've always thought so. There are limitations to that as well, and I won't go into them here because *various*, but to some degree and with certain people, it definitely clears the air and makes breathing a little easier. (Except when they feel comfortable enough to play bowel bagpipes.)

EvilST:
That, combined with Auburn's post, is reason to rejoice. Elephants are grey-ish too - makes me think of the metaphor about Dumbo in your living room. I don't really know why I'm responding to this, because your post was perfect on its own. Now I've ruined it. I'm trying to make you shine by comparison. Of course you should post in this thread. Everyone should post in whatever thread they want to. Be a noob and suckrock.

IB:
See attached. (I hope you can see it.)

Pi:
You Yankee bastard.

GENERAL NOTE:
I just realised that the little parenthetical notes I left for some of you (eg Melllvar's strikethrough'd boringness) might be taken seriously - they were definitely not intended that way. I was just playing off the theme. Please continue to donate generously.


TO EVERYONE WHO IS "OVERLY CONCERNED" WHAT OTHERS THINK OF THEM:
Could it be that you're just so overwhelmingly awesome that you can't help noticing and then get all self-conscious about it? Like hot people, except better because no one will despise you for being awesome.

I'm not sure about this theory.

Being scared of sucking does suck though, considering it's impossible to avoid.

 

[AlisaD]

http://www.youtube.com/user/jimathers#p/u/99/c211yCCZdJY