Spirit science

[8151147]

https://www.youtube.com/user/TheSpiritScience

Does anyone know this?

I not only enjoy the content of itself, but also the war between the author who is an INFJ versus another youtuber who is an INTP.

The author - Jordan Pearce - seems to be very serious about his stuff, while his rival-Martymer 81- looks like a cocky trying to debunk him.

any NF guys here in love with him? haha

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kPUqOivf-l8

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6dVOrJ-c7_s

 

[SpaceYeti]

He's a fucker, using new-aged, spiritual bullshit to fool people. Maybe he actually believes it, too, I dunno. It's bullshit all the same.

 

[Black Rose]

i have had out of body experiences before but most of spirit science is glitter

 

[Frankie]

i have had out of body experiences before but most of spirit science is glitter

You seem to have some experience in this sort of thing. Have you ever Astral projected? If so, what does it feel like?

 

[Yellow]

My goose, this is silly stuff.

By the way, I really don't think the second guy is an INTP. I'm not a look-at-the-face-and-type-people person, but that guy is over-emphasizing his feelings with his voice and face. I've only known Fi-people to do that.

 

[Black Rose]

You seem to have some experience in this sort of thing. Have you ever Astral projected? If so, what does it feel like?

i am sure spirit science guy can astral project but he rationalizes allot of fluff which should really be about exploring the different spaces which interface between earth and imagination. i have not been able to tell if i was in my dreams or in one of the layers above earth but i was floating in a room which i could pass through the walls and float but i was stuck disoriented like waking in bed but not getting up half way awake. at another time i would be in the fetal position looking into slips which i could see into non clouded images like HD in 5x5 inches. but i would move and try to get up but in my dream i could not get up. i found i was on my back in bed not the fetal position but i saw those images so clear that they were clearer than real life. i have not seen my body separate from it as astral but i was out of body in my dream or in those layers. i have seen my anima three times and she was separate but real as a person. it just seems that i never dream real dreams so when they are clear i suspect that they are not in my head completely.

 

[8151147]

My goose, this is silly stuff.

By the way, I really don't think the second guy is an INTP. I'm not a look-at-the-face-and-type-people person, but that guy is over-emphasizing his feelings with his voice and face. I've only known Fi-people to do that.

You are wrong as fuck. How can you not recognize a full of logic mind as he is?
What you said just proved that you know nothing about cognitive functions

 

[Frankie]

That sounds like lucid dreaming (with the accompanying paralysis).

 

[Black Rose]

That sounds like lucid dreaming (with the accompanying paralysis).

it is confusing to me but they seem linked
i never became a ghost before but my dreams are only real when they are clear

 

[Brontosaurie]

He's a fucker,

i agree. beautiful use of comma btw.

the second guy is most likely a Ti-dom yes.

 

[Ex-User (11125)]

You are wrong as fuck. How can you not recognize a full of logical mind as he is?
What you said just proved that you know nothing about cognitive functions

lol chill. she is free to think whatever she wants

 

[8151147]

lol chill. she is free to think whatever she wants

May be. I just expected people who active on this forum have better intuition and basic of cognitive functions, or at least know well what they say. Are INTPs described as one of the smartest types in MBTI?

He's a fucker, using new-aged, spiritual bullshit to fool people. Maybe he actually believes it, too, I dunno. It's bullshit all the same.

I actually like his ideas since they are somehow very similar to mine when I was a child. However most of his ideas expressed as pseudo-science bullshit stuff. Can't blame it since he isn't an rational one.
Meanwhile Martey known well what he said, but his speaking is damn bored and some time went to details. He can't get out of his Ti mind

 

[QuickTwist]

You look like an ass.

 

[Yellow]

You are wrong as fuck. How can you not recognize a full of logical mind as he is?
What you said just proved that you know nothing about cognitive functions

Feelers are still capable of applying logic, but you're right, I don't care much about cognitive functions. It just seemed easier than saying "I've only seen INFPs, INTJs, ESFPs, and ISTJs do that". They all have Fi in the tertiary position (except for the INFP, where I see it most often). As I understand it, people acting on Fi are known to react emotionally for no obvious reason. Since, he was clearly trying to convey emotion (disdain/contempt and irritation) for no constructive or obvious reason, I figured that "Fi" would suffice to save space.

Edit: I guess it's secondary for ESFP, but whatever.

 

[8151147]

Feelers are still capable of applying logic, but you're right, I don't care much about cognitive functions. It just seemed easier than saying "I've only seen INFPs, INTJs, ESFPs, and ISTJs do that". They all have Fi in the tertiary position (except for the INFP, where I see it most often). As I understand it, people acting on Fi are known to react emotionally for no obvious reason. Since, he was clearly trying to convey emotion (disdain/contempt and irritation) for no constructive or obvious reason, I figured that "Fi" would suffice to save space.

It's because cognitive functions describes how our brain work, not the detail temperament like your previous post. It takes lot of process to translate from brain functions to our actions. You can't jump immediately from this to that without carefully check the middle process and other views.

Second, if you want to guess the type of an introvert, you can't define it as extrovert functions!?? You should focus on how target think, their ideas, their main and deep meaning they are focusing, instead of describing their tiny factors like voice or face...

His emotional is derived from suffering the illogical things. Fi doesn't work liek that

 

[Yellow]

Second, if you want to guess the type of an introvert, you can't define it as extrovert functions!??

I don't understand this sentence at all, and it seems that you are relying on it as a pillar of your argument. Can you say it another way?

Edit: For the record, I'm not trying to pick at your English, I'm just trying to understand.

 

[8151147]

I don't understand this sentence at all, and it seems that you are relying on it as a pillar of your argument. Can you say it another way?

Edit: FYI, I'm not trying to pick at your English, I'm just trying to understand.

I know I have a horrible grammar, but this is what I mean:

- You assumed his dom is Fi, but you use "over-emphasizing his feelings with his voice and face. " as your support. It's likely extrovert stuff, or at least not introvert.

-Since he is an introvert(you are right about he is introvert), should we find the proof to prove how he introvert, right?

Our energy moves toward the inner world of thoughts and ideas; the world inside of us - See more at: http://mbtitoday.org/carl-jung-psychological-type/#sthash.pedU8MQo.dpuf

You can trying to find the extravert factors of his Auxiliary function, but it will be harder since it is weaker and vague. Better give it a care when need to compared people who have same dom types, like INTP/ITSP

 

[TBerg]

For the rational to survive, it must be married to deep spiritual struggle, allowing the spirit to enliven the rational product, thereby allowing not for perpetual war against part of the self but allowing the self to be whole. Otherwise rational premises defeat other rational premises in battle, leaving no deep spiritual ground upon which to found our premises. This is not to excuse spiritually lazy and irrational products sometimes embodied in the video above, but just to not use them as a strawman to drive a nail into our spiritual coffin.

 

[Yellow]

I know I have a horrible grammar, but this is what I mean:

- You assumed his dom is Fi, but you use "over-emphasizing his feelings with his voice and face. " as your support. It's likely extrovert stuff, or at least not introvert.

-Since he is an introvert(you are right about he is introvert), should we find the proof to prove how he introvert, right?

Okay, I see where we had our misunderstanding. I didn't assume he was necessarily an INFP (Fi-dom), just that it was an option I'd entertain before INTP. I also entertained the idea of him being INTJ and ISTJ. With the Fi-mention, I just meant he seemed to have some Fi hanging around somewhere because despite his logical argument, I got the strong impression that it was an emotional response. He carried it like one in his voice, face, mannerism, cadence, etc. I've never known an INTP to do that.

 

[8151147]

Okay, I see where we had our misunderstanding. I didn't assume he was necessarily an INFP (Fi-dom), just that it was an option I'd entertain before INTP. I also entertained the idea of him being INTJ and ISTJ. With the Fi-mention, I just meant he seemed to have some Fi hanging around somewhere because despite his logical argument, I got the strong impression that it was an emotional response. He carried it like one in his voice, face, mannerism, cadence, etc. I've never known an INTP to do that.

Are you sure with what you said? How can you recognize someone's type by observing their tertiary or inferior function but not the dominant or auxiliary? Not even mention he is still very young. Otherwise you have a special sense or weird skill.

I got the strong impression that it was an emotional response. He carried it like one in his voice, face, mannerism, cadence, etc. I've never known an INTP to do that

if it was an emotional response, it must be a very poor emotion.

Actually we can only recognize the auxiliary function easier when compared 2 types which have same dominant. We can't see much the moves toward people, things, outside world from an introvert. We can only see easily their perceiving/judging factor from their auxiliary. In this case, only N, not e.

However I would recommend focus on the exclusive sign/belief each type have their own. If you can sense it, you know what type of someone at the first glance when listen they talk, act, their behaviors... Try personality disorder FYI http://ptypes.com/overviews.html

Edit: We are derailing topic. I want give it back where it start and leave the conversation to another thread if you are interested