SpaceYeti hearts his snack drawer

[SpaceYeti]

Oh, PM. Awesome!

 

[Words]

This situation reminds me of the uncanny valley. Ugh.


(probably did not make sense there, but close enough.)

 

[Cavallier]

Mine runs around 21 to 21.5 or so which is smack in the middle of what's considered healthy despite my addiction to eating ice-cream with potato chips. I'm active though and I think that makes a big difference. Plus, portion control seems to be a big part of not getting overweight.

I heard a study recently...hmm...I'll go dig it up...

Edit: Here it is.

This guy wanted to see if counting calories was all it took to lose weight. So he ate a bunch of junk food, added in a few carrots and celery and some vitamin pills so he wouldn't develop any dangerous diet deficiencies, for two months and lost 27 lbs. It's not exactly healthy but it's proof that portion control is important I guess.

 

[snafupants]

Mine runs around 21 to 21.5 or so which is smack in the middle of what's considered healthy despite my addiction to eating ice-cream with potato chips. I'm active though and I think that makes a big difference. Plus, portion control seems to be a big part of not getting overweight.

I heard a study recently...hmm...I'll go dig it up...

Edit: Here it is.

This guy wanted to see if counting calories was all it took to lose weight. So he ate a bunch of junk food, added in a few carrots and celery and some vitamin pills so he wouldn't develop any dangerous diet deficiencies, for two months and lost 27 lbs. It's not exactly healthy but it's proof that portion control is important I guess.

Icey cream and potato chips sounds disgusting. You may be interested in Jimmy Fallon's new brand of Ben and Jerry's if that's your thing though. My perception of you has changed forever.

 

[Lobstrich]

I still think it's healthy.

You'd be surprised what kind of health problems being skinny can cause then! =)

 

[Black Rose]

YouTube - Candy Mountain Song

 

[SpaceYeti]

You'd be surprised what kind of health problems being skinny can cause then! =)

Probably. Could you provide a list of illnesses and why being skinny caused it, please? It doesn't have to be definitive.

 

[Lobstrich]

Probably. Could you provide a list of illnesses and why being skinny caused it, please? It doesn't have to be definitive.

You could just google it. Osteporosis, Cardiovascular diseases, Anemia, malnutrition (which brings a whole new line things that can happen to your body) a general lack of vitamins. Take D: Severe lack of D vitamin can make you a "sleepyhead" to put it lightly, which can lead to lethargy, which can lead to depression for some people, as well as other actual physical health problems. Lack of D vitamin can be the cause of Osteporis and Cardiovascular diseases it can also increase the 'chances' of getting cancer. Being skinny also decreases your immunity which obviously makes one more susceptible to a ton of 'stuff' And I've been told that hormones need fat to be properly transported throughout your system.

There's also the basic look of you. If you care about how you look and how other people think you look. Then you're at a massive disadvantage as well.
Having your spine, ribs, clavicle, hip bone, the elbow joints, knee caps and your eye sockets sticking out. Making you look like something along the lines of the corpse of what was once an anorexic version of Gollum. Not exactly attractive. Unless you're into Gollum, dead people or anorexics, I guess. And I'm not even very skinny compared to some people who are actually anorexic. I'm not anorexic, I just have crazy metabolism.

Keep in mind that I am no Doctor. I'm only relaying what my doctor told me. So I don't know if Osteporosis is caused only by lack of D and why the lack can cause Osteporosis. I just know that being skinny can cause what I've just mentioned.

 

[onthewindowstand]

I think that the best thing for you to do Lobstrich is to eat Space yeti's snack drawer. Then your doctor will be happy that you gained some weight.

 

[Lobstrich]

I think that the best thing for you to do Lobstrich is to eat Space yeti's snack drawer. Then your doctor will be happy that you gained some weight.

I appreciate the grand gesture of the amazing feedback! I'm good though, I want to gain weight to become healthy. Not gain weight and kill myself in the process, hehe.

 

[SpaceYeti]

You could just google it. Osteporosis, Cardiovascular diseases, Anemia, malnutrition (which brings a whole new line things that can happen to your body) a general lack of vitamins. Take D: Severe lack of D vitamin can make you a "sleepyhead" to put it lightly, which can lead to lethargy, which can lead to depression for some people, as well as other actual physical health problems. Lack of D vitamin can be the cause of Osteporis and Cardiovascular diseases it can also increase the 'chances' of getting cancer. Being skinny also decreases your immunity which obviously makes one more susceptible to a ton of 'stuff' And I've been told that hormones need fat to be properly transported throughout your system.

There's also the basic look of you. If you care about how you look and how other people think you look. Then you're at a massive disadvantage as well.
Having your spine, ribs, clavicle, hip bone, the elbow joints, knee caps and your eye sockets sticking out. Making you look like something along the lines of the corpse of what was once an anorexic version of Gollum. Not exactly attractive. Unless you're into Gollum, dead people or anorexics, I guess. And I'm not even very skinny compared to some people who are actually anorexic. I'm not anorexic, I just have crazy metabolism.

Keep in mind that I am no Doctor. I'm only relaying what my doctor told me. So I don't know if Osteporosis is caused only by lack of D and why the lack can cause Osteporosis. I just know that being skinny can cause what I've just mentioned.

No. Being skinny doesn't cause any of those diseases. The cause of those diseases may, however, also cause you to be skinny. Saying being skinny causes those problems is like saying having a lot of muscle mass causes roid-rage. No, taking the steroids causes roid rage. The roids also give you muscle mass. Two effects =/= one cause and it's effect.

Malnutrition could be a cause in any of those diseases, and because you're malnourished, you're not getting a good diet such that your diet supports being large, so you're skinny. Your diet, in the case your skinniness is related to these diseases you mentioned at all, is the cause of both being skinny and the illness. Being skinny, in and of itself, does not cause any illnesses.

 

[Bird]

o.o I forgot.


I can't even remember what time I have
to be at work today. *Sigh*.

Premature alzheimers.

 

[SpaceYeti]

... Where did that come from?

 

[Lobstrich]

No. Being skinny doesn't cause any of those diseases. The cause of those diseases may, however, also cause you to be skinny. Saying being skinny causes those problems is like saying having a lot of muscle mass causes roid-rage. No, taking the steroids causes roid rage. The roids also give you muscle mass. Two effects =/= one cause and it's effect.

Malnutrition could be a cause in any of those diseases, and because you're malnourished, you're not getting a good diet such that your diet supports being large, so you're skinny. Your diet, in the case your skinniness is related to these diseases you mentioned at all, is the cause of both being skinny and the illness. Being skinny, in and of itself, does not cause any illnesses.

Basically, you're agreeing with me. Oh and yes, being skinny does

 

[SpaceYeti]

You seem to be under the impression someone's not skinny unless they're undernourished. If we included under-nutrition as an innate aspect of skinniness, yeah, you've got me. It's not, however. I cannot think of nor find online any disease which is caused by being skinny. So you're going to have to come right out and tell me if you can think of one (and diseases which are the result of the same cause as being skinny are not caused by the skinniness, they're caused by the lack of nutrition, or whatever other shared cause there might be)

 

[Lobstrich]

You seem to be under the impression someone's not skinny unless they're undernourished. If we included under-nutrition as an innate aspect of skinniness, yeah, you've got me. It's not, however. I cannot think of nor find online any disease which is caused by being skinny. So you're going to have to come right out and tell me if you can think of one (and diseases which are the result of the same cause as being skinny are not caused by the skinniness, they're caused by the lack of nutrition, or whatever other shared cause there might be)

Why would one be skinny, if not for eating too little (healthy) food? "fast metabolism" can only keep you skinny for so long.

EDIT: Oh, and if you didn't find a single disease connected to being underweight. You might want to revise your researching skills.

2ndEDIT: Come to think of it with the stance that you have to being skinny and health. Then how can you say "I think X weight and height is healthy" If it can't be unhealthy?

 

[SpaceYeti]

Why would one be skinny, if not for eating too little (healthy) food? "fast metabolism" can only keep you skinny for so long.

EDIT: Oh, and if you didn't find a single disease connected to being underweight. You might want to revise your researching skills.

2ndEDIT: Come to think of it with the stance that you have to being skinny and health. Then how can you say "I think X weight and height is healthy" If it can't be unhealthy?

Being significantly skinny is unhealthy, due to it being impossible except through malnutrition or some other problem. However, we're talking the difference between overweight and obese, except the opposite. You can be overweight and still healthy. You can even be obese and healthy, though that's very uncommon. It's the same with being thin. You may note that I never used the term "underweight", I said "skinny". However, you can be underweight and healthy, granting you're not that skinny due to malnutrition. I know a guy who's about 6'0" tall and weighs 140 pounds. He's skinny. He's not underweight. He has no known illnesses related to malnutrition or being underweight.

I have known many people (including myself until after I got out of basic training) who were on the lower end of healthy weight who I'd describe as skinny. Being skinny does not mean you're unhealthily skinny, it means only that your thickness is noticeably below average. You cannot be unhealthily skinny without there being a problem besides being skinny causing it. Being underweight means your weight is indicative of a problem, not the cause of it.

 

[Lobstrich]

Being significantly skinny is unhealthy, due to it being impossible except through malnutrition or some other problem. However, we're talking the difference between overweight and obese, except the opposite. You can be overweight and still healthy. You can even be obese and healthy, though that's very uncommon. It's the same with being thin. You may note that I never used the term "underweight", I said "skinny". However, you can be underweight and healthy, granting you're not that skinny due to malnutrition. I know a guy who's about 6'0" tall and weighs 140 pounds. He's skinny. He's not underweight. He has no known illnesses related to malnutrition or being underweight.

6'0 and 140 is probably less than average or what is suggested. But when you start to get lower than that you're almost guaranteed to increase the chances of 'contracting' something along the lines of what I mentioned before. I was (and still am) speaking for myself when I was talking about weight and health. I'm 6'1 and weigh 110 pound, I wouldn't doubt for a second that, that is not healthy. Which was my original point, nothing more.

I have known many people (including myself until after I got out of basic training) who were on the lower end of healthy weight who I'd describe as skinny. Being skinny does not mean you're unhealthily skinny, it means only that your thickness is noticeably below average. You cannot be unhealthily skinny without there being a problem besides being skinny causing it. Being underweight means your weight is indicative of a problem, not the cause of it.

You make the difference between skinny and underweight. Because that is your definition of the words.

 

[SpaceYeti]

6'0 and 140 is probably less than average or what is suggested. But when you start to get lower than that you're almost guaranteed to increase the chances of 'contracting' something along the lines of what I mentioned before. I was (and still am) speaking for myself when I was talking about weight and health. I'm 6'1 and weigh 110 pound, I wouldn't doubt for a second that, that is not healthy. Which was my original point, nothing more.

Yes, well, it's almost assuredly true that you're unhealthy if you're that skinny, in your case.

You make the difference between skinny and underweight. Because that is your definition of the words.

I find, actually, that people actually use the word that way. I'm not the only one who uses the word that way, for sure.

 

[Lobstrich]

I find, actually, that people actually use the word that way. I'm not the only one who uses the word that way, for sure.

Majority doesn't equal correctness. Even if 99% of the world used the word that way I would insist on language not having a "right and wrong" Our language (all languages, 'our' as in us, humans) came to be through it being alive. Through people calling stuff something they found fitting. Which is why I don't think there's any 'right' definition. You think fat borders to obese at 400 pounds. I think it borders at 401.

I do agree that there is a difference, Between skinny and underweight. But who is to decide where that difference is? Nobody, which is what is so lovely.

 

[SpaceYeti]

Majority may not equal correctness when it comes to matters of fact, but language is necessarily a majority rules thing. Words mean what people use them to mean. It seems we agree, except for that first sentence of yours. Usually a first sentence leads into the rest of what you're writing, but you decided to contradict the rest of what you were writing with it instead. An unusual choice.

 

[Lobstrich]

Majority may not equal correctness when it comes to matters of fact, but language is necessarily a majority rules thing. Words mean what people use them to mean. It seems we agree, except for that first sentence of yours. Usually a first sentence leads into the rest of what you're writing, but you decided to contradict the rest of what you were writing with it instead. An unusual choice.

I can't see any contradicting in what I said.

 

[SpaceYeti]

I can't see any contradicting in what I said.

You said majority does not mean you're right, implying you thought it was wrong that many people used a word a certain way, yet then you went on agreeing that words mean things because many people use them that way.

 

[Lobstrich]

implying you thought it was wrong that many people used a word a certain way

I did not say that. I said that just because alot of people have the same definition between skinny and underweight like you. That doesn't mean it's the definition.

 

[SpaceYeti]

I did not say that. I said that just because alot of people have the same definition between skinny and underweight like you doesn't mean it's the definition.

Ah, in that case, we agree. There is no "the" definition.