So this is what I want to do in life.

[ashitaria]

I'm making plans for the future, and I need some help. First off, I want to know how much money my lifestyle will cost me, and second, I need some pros and cons analysis. So here I go.

I want to get a mini-van like one of these:

And take out the middle seat and replace it with a mattress, buy two car adapters and connect two electrical appliances to the car adapters: a mini-oven and one of those portable stoves. I also want to get one of those small-desks which can support itself and be high enough for me to work on above the mattress, and get one of those internet-where-ever-you go contracts. In other words, I want to travel and have them god-blessed freedom to go wherever I want to.

The problem is: at what cost?

It's cheaper than an apartment definitely. I don't have to worry about water because I'll be buying those gallon per ten cents at the super-market and I'll be using any toilets that I can find, but at what cost?

Perhaps $200 for car insurance, $350 for gas, and $150 for food?

I also wonder, how will I get the money needed to support this living? Perhaps any odd jobs I can find? Mcdonalds for a month then get up and go?

How much?

 

[Mary]

I'm making plans for the future, and I need some help. First off, I want to know how much money my lifestyle will cost me, and second, I need some pros and cons analysis. So here I go.

I want to get a mini-van like one of these:

And take out the middle seat and replace it with a mattress, buy two car adapters and connect two electrical appliances to the car adapters: a mini-oven and one of those portable stoves. I also want to get one of those small-desks which can support itself and be high enough for me to work on above the mattress, and get one of those internet-where-ever-you go contracts. In other words, I want to travel and have them god-blessed freedom to go wherever I want to.

The problem is: at what cost?

It's cheaper than an apartment definitely. I don't have to worry about water because I'll be buying those gallon per ten cents at the super-market and I'll be using any toilets that I can find, but at what cost?

Perhaps $200 for car insurance, $350 for gas, and $150 for food?

I also wonder, how will I get the money needed to support this living? Perhaps any odd jobs I can find? Mcdonalds for a month then get up and go?

How much?

McDonalds is more expensice than the grocery store. Ya know those 75 cent drinks? Get a whole liter (or whatever those big bottles are) for 89 cents. The legend the "McDonalds is cheaper" is a very false lie.
Unless, of course, you're buying gourmet foods at the grocery store vs buying those 5 packs of chinken mcnuggets.

 

[ashitaria]

McDonalds is more expensice than the grocery store. Ya know those 75 cent drinks? Get a whole liter (or whatever those big bottles are) for 89 cents. The legend the "McDonalds is cheaper" is a very false lie.
Unless, of course, you're buying gourmet foods at the grocery store vs buying those 5 packs of chinken mcnuggets.

No, not eat at Mcdonalds. Work at McDonalds, then get up and go. I didn't say I wanted to buy that mini-oven and portable stove without a reason.

 

[Mary]

No, not eat at Mcdonalds. Work at McDonalds, then get up and go. I didn't say I wanted to buy that mini-oven and portable stove without a reason.

Hehehe.. I was a bit confused by that, I must admit.
You could do better than McDonalds.. Many jobs are becoming increasingly "online"/"work-at-home-on-the-computer". You could keep a steady job with no major human interaction and go wherever you want, provided you had an internet connection. Maybe get one of those "Mi-fi" cards that wireless companies are now offering.

My personal dream would be to buy my own island somewhere in a tropical sea in the middle of nowhere and have one of those online jobs.

 

[ashitaria]

Me too, but I prefer to travel and travel and travel. It's cheap and for fulling, so yeah.

Makes me wonder why I'm working so hard for college.

 

[Mary]

Me too, but I prefer to travel and travel and travel. It's cheap and for fulling, so yeah.

Makes me wonder why I'm working so hard for college.

'cause it's what society expects.
<sarcasm>
Gotta love society.
</sarcasm>

 

[Beat Mango]

I've had a similar idea but never went through with it. Back in the day, it wasn't uncommon to have drifters in the form of hitchhikers and that lifestyle probably would have suited our ilk, but unfortunately now that's illegal (thank you stupid over-regulation of everyday life).

Hehehe.. I was a bit confused by that, I must admit.
You could do better than McDonalds.. Many jobs are becoming increasingly "online"/"work-at-home-on-the-computer". You could keep a steady job with no major human interaction and go wherever you want, provided you had an internet connection. Maybe get one of those "Mi-fi" cards that wireless companies are now offering.

My personal dream would be to buy my own island somewhere in a tropical sea in the middle of nowhere and have one of those online jobs.

Tell me more about these online jobs.

 

[ashitaria]

I've had a similar idea but never went through with it. Back in the day, it wasn't uncommon to have drifters in the form of hitchhikers and that lifestyle probably would have suited our ilk, but unfortunately now that's illegal (thank you stupid over-regulation of everyday life).

What? Is living in a car illegal?

 

[ashitaria]

'cause it's what society expects.
<sarcasm>
Gotta love society.
</sarcasm>

I know right? Isn't Society the best thing in the world?

<Sarcasm meter just exploded>

 

[Beat Mango]

I meant hitchhiking is illegal. And I'd be very surprised if living in your car is legal here in Australia but, who's gonna enforce it. Actually I knew a guy who used to do it and lived in a carpark. We called him "carpark Rob". Pretty nice car too.

 

[ashitaria]

I meant hitchhiking is illegal. And I'd be very surprised if living in your car is legal here in Australia but, who's gonna enforce it. Actually I knew a guy who used to do it and lived in a carpark. We called him "carpark Rob". Pretty nice car too.

So in Austrailia, living in your car is illegal?

Oh well. Hopefully, car-homes won't be illegal here in America.

I have a question though, how much does McDonalds pay?

 

[Anthile]

How do you get your post when you live in a car?

 

[ashitaria]

If you mean this forum: Those contracts of wireless internet wherever you go.

If you mean a job: Easy, I'll apply. They won't need to know I live in a car.

 

[s0nystyle]

PO box everything?

 

[Beat Mango]

So in Austrailia, living in your car is illegal?

Oh well. Hopefully, car-homes won't be illegal here in America.

I have a question though, how much does McDonalds pay?

Well if the car's on your property I'm sure it's not illegal. It's more to do with where you're gonna put your car, I don't think you could just live on the street but I'm no lawyer. Anthile, our mate got his post sent to his friend's address.

McDonalds here pays ok. You'll get the minimum wage for a retail assistant which varies depending on your age, but generally it's about a dollar for how old you are up to the age of 21 then it stops there. But in America... don't you guys live off tips??

 

[Cognisant]

I meant hitchhiking is illegal. And I'd be very surprised if living in your car is legal here in Australia but, who's gonna enforce it. Actually I knew a guy who used to do it and lived in a carpark. We called him "carpark Rob". Pretty nice car too.

Actually it's neither illegal nor uncommon, I have a aunt & uncle who are off travelling around Australia in a modified bus, there's a name for these things but I can't remember it off-hand, netherless you can actually buy cars already outfitted like that.

Personally though I'd do the whole "travelling writer" thing, because authors can work anywhere/anytime they damn well please and travelling around (backpacking?) enables you to actively promote your books as you go.

 

[ashitaria]

Actually it's neither illegal nor uncommon, I have a aunt & uncle who are off travelling around Australia in a modified bus, there's a name for these things but I can't remember it off-hand, netherless you can actually buy cars already outfitted like that.

Personally though I'd do the whole "travelling writer" thing, because authors can work anywhere/anytime they damn well please and travelling around (backpacking?) enables you to actively promote your books as you go.

I've always wanted to be a writer but I am doubtful that it will pay enough to support my expenses.

I have just calculalated my expense to be $850 max so I want a job that pays at least that much....

 

[Cognisant]

Depends how popular your books are, if say you write a bestseller you could live out of decent hotels & jet-set around the world doing book signings where ever you go.

 

[ashitaria]

Depends how popular your books are, if say you write a bestseller you could live out of decent hotels & jet-set around the world doing book signings where ever you go.

Heh heh, I doubt I could write a book like that. :P

 

[EditorOne]

LIving out of your car presents a number of problems. The two most prominent involve vulnerability, both to laws (which can vary from town to town) and your personal security (where are you going to be spending the nights? We just had, for instance, in the past three years, a rape, a driveby and an armed robbery in which shots were exchanged at our local Wal-Mart parking lot.)

Also, what was the $150 for food and all the rest? Were those monthly costs? Because I can tell you your car insurance will be over $1,000 a year while you are young, $250 in gas will take you 2,000 miles, and $150 for food will only last you a month, at the outside, even if you only eat Ramen noodles.

Police consider people who live out of their cars to be homeless, and some are not well disposed toward them, since vagrancy, prostitution and whatnot are often associated with the transient homeless. Additionally, your employer will require an address, not a license plate, to meet requirements imposed on many employers these days to properly document employees for tax purposes (ie, not paying someone "under the table" to avoid various taxes) and to avoid accusations of hiring illegal aliens.

You can do what you're talking about, but it would involve an upgrade to a recreational vehicle with cooking, sleeping and toilet facilities, and a kind of campground berth for same, or, my favorite daydream, a houseboat of some sort. Those things are not out of reach, especially if you practice an austere lifestyle with minimalized consumption of the many many many things our society thinks are necessary.

 

[r0n]

Here are a couple of resources that you might find helpful:

www.cheaprvliving.com - this is really about living in a vehicle, not just RV's. The homepage straight away addresses the costs and motivations.

And there is a yahoo group "VanDwellers":

http://autos.groups.yahoo.com/group/VanDwellers/

Hope that helps,

-r0n

 

[ashitaria]

LIving out of your car presents a number of problems. The two most prominent involve vulnerability, both to laws (which can vary from town to town) and your personal security (where are you going to be spending the nights? We just had, for instance, in the past three years, a rape, a driveby and an armed robbery in which shots were exchanged at our local Wal-Mart parking lot.)

Also, what was the $150 for food and all the rest? Were those monthly costs? Because I can tell you your car insurance will be over $1,000 a year while you are young, $250 in gas will take you 2,000 miles, and $150 for food will only last you a month, at the outside, even if you only eat Ramen noodles.

Police consider people who live out of their cars to be homeless, and some are not well disposed toward them, since vagrancy, prostitution and whatnot are often associated with the transient homeless. Additionally, your employer will require an address, not a license plate, to meet requirements imposed on many employers these days to properly document employees for tax purposes (ie, not paying someone "under the table" to avoid various taxes) and to avoid accusations of hiring illegal aliens.

You can do what you're talking about, but it would involve an upgrade to a recreational vehicle with cooking, sleeping and toilet facilities, and a kind of campground berth for same, or, my favorite daydream, a houseboat of some sort. Those things are not out of reach, especially if you practice an austere lifestyle with minimalized consumption of the many many many things our society thinks are necessary.

I have learned three things from your post.

One) Living in in a car has been much cheaper than what I thought. If what you said about the costs is true, I think it will only cost me about 300-400 dollars a month instead of 850.

Two) Getting a job has proven to be a problem. Perhaps I will get one of those on-line jobs.

Three) I definitely prefer living in a car now, and as to your question of where I will sleep, the answer is simple: in the car.

EDIT: I love you rOn, thanks for the link.

 

[EditorOne]

Where will you park the car so it is safe from the evil people in this world? It's a serious issue. There are serial everythings out there, I know because I got to do stories on them over the last 40 years.

Or would you like to borrow one of my guns?

 

[ashitaria]

I won't be living in the city. I'll be in the country-side and traveling. Most likely, I won't be staying in a place for more than a day or two, and I'll probably just buy a gun.

As for jobs, I have no doubt I can get one. After all, I am going to college, though I have no idea why.

 

[EditorOne]

Yup.

Stomp on me if I sound too much like a parent. Once you're conditioned as a parent, it never seems to wear completely off when you notice young folks possibly putting themselves in harm's way.

 

[Dormouse]

I was gonna mention you might have to factor in paying for parking, but that's only really an issue in cities so if you're out an about the countryside you should be fine.

I suppose finding a job will be your main concern, but that should be fairly easily resolved. Though watch out, some people get jobs crazy-easily, and for other's it's nigh impossible. (A charisma thing, I'd guess.)

 

[ashitaria]

I was gonna mention you might have to factor in paying for parking, but that's only really an issue in cities so if you're out an about the countryside you should be fine.

I suppose finding a job will be your main concern, but that should be fairly easily resolved. Though watch out, some people get jobs crazy-easily, and for other's it's nigh impossible. (A charisma thing, I'd guess.)

I hope I will be able to get jobs.

 

[Cognisant]

Or would you like to borrow one of my guns?

Guns are rarely a good idea, sure I bet you're thinking if you're going to have a weapon it may as well be the best weapon available to you, but lets just examine that for a moment. We all know the saying "bringing a knife to a gunfight" but are you intending to put yourself in life-or-death combat situations, of course not, you want something for personal defence. Now here's the problem with guns, if you've got one it's more than likely your antagonist is going to have one too, and in your average gunfight the one who wins/survives is the one who shoots first, and by the nature of such an encounter your antagonist will almost always be the one taking the initiative, i.e. having a gun is just an excuse for someone to shoot you.

Get a nightstick and learn how to use it, but first and foremost use your wits.
Know when to hold'em, know when to fold'em, know when to take initiative.

Keeping yourself alive is the goal, not killing the other guy.

 

[ashitaria]

Guns are rarely a good idea, sure I bet you're thinking if you're going to have a weapon it may as well be the best weapon available to you, but lets just examine that for a moment. We all know the saying "bringing a knife to a gunfight" but are you intending to put yourself in life-or-death combat situations, of course not, you want something for personal defence. Now here's the problem with guns, if you've got one it's more than likely your antagonist is going to have one too, and in your average gunfight the one who wins/survives is the one who shoots first, and by the nature of such an encounter your antagonist will almost always be the one taking the initiative, i.e. having a gun is just an excuse for someone to shoot you.

Get a nightstick and learn how to use it, but first and foremost use your wits.
Know when to hold'em, know when to fold'em, know when to take initiative.

Keeping yourself alive is the goal, not killing the other guy.

You seem to have alot of experience.

 

[Beat Mango]

I used to walk around with an iron bar in high school (well, for a few weeks). It was a heavy old thing and would have killed someone in one blow, easy. But this big guy in our year, known for his volatility and about twice my size, stole it straight out of my hands and I never saw it again.

If it's self-defence you're after, how about one of those Tasar guns that looks like a mobile phone

 

[EditorOne]

"Now here's the problem with guns, if you've got one it's more than likely your antagonist is going to have one too"

But if you don't have a gun, your antagonist won't? Care to explain your thinking here?

A taser is a good idea.

Let me note also that I don't really want to lend Ashitaria a gun, I was trying to get her to think seriously about the vulnerabilities in her plan. The smartest way to deal with a confrontation involving unpleasantness is to not put yourself in a position for a confrontation to occur. Sleeping in a car can be an invitation to sicko predators.

 

[Maiken]

I really like your idea Ashitaria But as EditorOne mentioned; sleeping in a car is probably not the safest thing to do

I understand your desire to do something different than what society dictates. When I look around it seems that most people go to work (I don't know anyone who actually like what they do for a job), come home to a house they try to make look like an IKEA-catalog, an SO they aren't happy with, kids who act like brads and the most important thing to them is that thay have a nicer car than their neighbour.

I really want to do something different also, only my imagination can't come up with a way of spending my life that would make me happy. I hope you find a way to do what you want.

 

[Ghyuk]

I am surprised no one has mention Car Repairs! What happens when your car battery, transmission, die? Putting all those miles on your car traveling will definitely mean you need to spend more money on tires, oil changes, timing belt, basic car stuff. A car is a big investment and many people today do not know how to take care of one. However with that said I like your idea but I think you need to make around $1,000 a month.

To live comfortably and you'll have extra money for emergencies. Your biggest obstacles will be obtaining a "good" van. A cheap and high mileage van won't last you long. And finding a job in this horrible economy.

P.S. I recommend getting a GPS system.

 

[Words]

@OP
I fear the possible dangers you'll face but it would be an interesting experience, I believe. The essence of it, I can't measure. Would it be a good idea to experience first and modify later? I wonder if you'll eventually discard this idea...

 

[Mary]

I'm not sure about how these online jobs work.. One of my adult friends has one so I'm asking her 'bout it.

No one should have a sarcasm meter. Sarcasm is not limited or measured. It is absolute.

 

[EditorOne]

However with that said I like your idea but I think you need to make around $1,000 a month..

At least $1,000 a month, TAKE-HOME. At the bottom of the economic food chain that might mean earning $1,200 a month to allow for all the taxes, even though some will come back as a tax refund. $1,200 a month figuring 20 workdays a month is $60 a day, which is $7.50 an hour. Federal (US) minimum wage is $7.25 an hour, so you are near the absolute bottom. Which means it is doable, but the question then becomes : Why would you live like a refugee when you have the brains to make millions of dollars with some great idea or another and make a change in the world if you want? Or at least enough to be "comfortable" (your mileage may vary) rather than destitute and bordering on disaster every day of your life?

Money isn't the solution to every problem, but lack of money is often the cause of a great many.

 

[ashitaria]

Okay, first of all, I will not be worried about sicko predators because I AM A BOY. Get it right, I'm not a girl. By the time I do live in a car, I will be a fully-grown male, so I doubt that anyone will want to rape me in the butt.

Second of all, I can easily find parking spots that are safe to me, and where I plan on going, I don't think the dangers are that serious, especially after reading r0n's list, I think you guy's are over-exaggerating the dangers.

I will also not be sleeping in Urban areas, most likely I'll be parking myself in a nice neighborhood. In everything that comes down to, I'm pretty sure that I'll be safe.

As for the costs, isn't $1000 too much? Car repairs should go no more than $50 dollars a month maximum, by the time I do get some trouble, I would have saved up enough for the fee. As for food, fuel (which goes along with electricity through car-adapters), water ( ten cents per gallon) and car insurance (which according to Editor is $1000 a year), it shouldn't go up to more than $600.

Also, about car attacks, what are the chances of being attacked by a guy with a gun?

Car thefts alone have chances only 1 in 297 and gun policies in America has already begun to step up considerably, thanks to the Brady Bill. Criminals are much less likely to have guns as compared to citizens, let alone the chance of being attacked by a gun.

Car-the ifs don't have guns. And if you guys have studied into murder and rape, only a very very small percentage of murders and rapes are committed by a complete stranger. Thus, my worries are next to zero.

I'm not a hobo either, so my chances of being attacked are already significantly reduced. So really, I wonder, what's the big deal?

 

[Mary]

Okay, first of all, I will not be worried about sicko predators because I AM A BOY. Get it right, I'm not a girl. By the time I do live in a car, I will be a fully-grown male, so I doubt that anyone will want to rape me in the butt.

Second of all, I can easily find parking spots that are safe to me, and where I plan on going, I don't think the dangers are that serious, especially after reading r0n's list, I think you guy's are over-exaggerating the dangers.

I will also not be sleeping in Urban areas, most likely I'll be parking myself in a nice neighborhood. In everything that comes down to, I'm pretty sure that I'll be safe.

As for the costs, isn't $1000 too much? Car repairs should go no more than $50 dollars a month maximum, by the time I do get some trouble, I would have saved up enough for the fee. As for food, fuel (which goes along with electricity through car-adapters), water ( ten cents per gallon) and car insurance (which according to Editor is $1000 a year), it shouldn't go up to more than $600.

It's always good to have a little extra money. Horrible situations have a nasty way of coming about. And if you do work at McDonalds, you'd want to have some money to carry you in-between jobs.

 

[ashitaria]

It's always good to have a little extra money. Horrible situations have a nasty way of coming about. And if you do work at McDonalds, you'd want to have some money to carry you in-between jobs.

Heck, I'll manage.

If the minimum wage is $7, I can bring back $1000 without much trouble, and spend a great amount of time doing nothing.

I am going to college anyway, so chances are, I'll be making money not at McDonalds but perhaps doing a part-time job in a company. Who knows?

 

[Mary]

I am going to college anyway, so chances are, I'll be making money not at McDonalds but perhaps doing a part-time job in a company. Who knows?

Will your parents be paying for your college? If not, you'll have those oh-so lovely college loan debts to pay off.

Heck, I'll manage.

Hehehe..
Basically my life motto.

 

[Cavallier]

It seems like such a freeing way to live just traveling like a gypsy all across the country...

I too have seriously considered this kind of plan. I finally decided the best way to pull it off would be getting an RV instead of a van. I don't mean one of those grandiose $100,000 RVs but one of the old models from out of the 70's. Not to expensive but then again the mpg is horrible...but something has to give somewhere. They are more comfortable then a van and they have a shower and galley kitchen which is handy. Also, you get that added half step up from being a squatter/vagrant-with-a-car status and that keeps the cops and locals off your back. Less vulnerability. If you are in the US and you can afford a AAA membership you'll find you can get some really cheap rent on various campsites around the country and some of the more permanent RV parks can provide you with an address for you mail/post.

As for the cost: You'll have to look into how much you need to save up to put your plan into effect. Once you've gotten everything in place it depends more on how permanent and where you want your residence to be. Are you wanting to work for a few months at one place and then drive around or are you wanting to basically live in one spot with the option to leave at any point? Are you open to seasonal migrant type work? If so you could follow the seasons around the country working on various farms and ranches all across the country. Most places are willing you teach you whatever you don't know and it's really not that hard to learn it's just hard physically to do every day. You'll get strong but that adds to you being able to defend yourself. This, is again, assuming you are in the US though I suspect the same applies to Australia as well. I've known many men who showed up with the spring thaw and disappeared with the first frost to god knows where every year. They lived out of RVs that they hooked up to the outlet in the barn.

Edit: OR you could consider a camp trailer and a truck. That way you have the ability to move your home wherever you want while also being mobile enough to leave on short outings without having to take your home with you. I like this option the best. I like to have an escape plan when I enter a situation alone.

Edit 2.0: There is one thing that you will absolutely need above all else...

 

[Cavallier]

I am going to college anyway, so chances are, I'll be making money not at McDonalds but perhaps doing a part-time job in a company. Who knows?

I knew a guy who lived out of his parent's old RV in an RV park while going to college. So much cheaper then paying rent for an apartment. Though he did live in fear of his ex-girlfriend's then boyfriend. Seemed to think the guy might show up and beat the crap out of him one night.

 

[Ghyuk]

Okay, first of all, I will not be worried about sicko predators because I AM A BOY. Get it right, I'm not a girl. By the time I do live in a car, I will be a fully-grown male, so I doubt that anyone will want to rape me in the butt.

Second of all, I can easily find parking spots that are safe to me, and where I plan on going, I don't think the dangers are that serious, especially after reading r0n's list, I think you guy's are over-exaggerating the dangers.

I will also not be sleeping in Urban areas, most likely I'll be parking myself in a nice neighborhood. In everything that comes down to, I'm pretty sure that I'll be safe.

As for the costs, isn't $1000 too much? Car repairs should go no more than $50 dollars a month maximum, by the time I do get some trouble, I would have saved up enough for the fee. As for food, fuel (which goes along with electricity through car-adapters), water ( ten cents per gallon) and car insurance (which according to Editor is $1000 a year), it shouldn't go up to more than $600.

Also, about car attacks, what are the chances of being attacked by a guy with a gun?

Car thefts alone have chances only 1 in 297 and gun policies in America has already begun to step up considerably, thanks to the Brady Bill. Criminals are much less likely to have guns as compared to citizens, let alone the chance of being attacked by a gun.

Car-the ifs don't have guns. And if you guys have studied into murder and rape, only a very very small percentage of murders and rapes are committed by a complete stranger. Thus, my worries are next to zero.

I'm not a hobo either, so my chances of being attacked are already significantly reduced. So really, I wonder, what's the big deal?

You live in the US, there are predators out there who attack men. The cost to fix a bad transmission (unless you know how to drive a manual) is at least $500+. Also keep in mind getting a job at McDonalds these days isn't the same as it was in the past. If you're lucky to get hired don't expect full time, which means a single job alone won't be enough. I know this because I make a lot more than minimum wage and I still don't make close to $1000 a month.

It may just be a better idea to get some loans and live in a dorm at your college if possible. If you choose to go with your plan, car insurance cheapens as years go by. Before I forget, by owning a car you have to pay a bunch of ridiculous fees to the government such as vehicle tax, inspection, registration, license plates,.

 

[ashitaria]

You live in the US, there are predators out there who attack men. The cost to fix a bad transmission (unless you know how to drive a manual) is at least $500+. Also keep in mind getting a job at McDonalds these days isn't the same as it was in the past. If you're lucky to get hired don't expect full time, which means a single job alone won't be enough. I know this because I make a lot more than minimum wage and I still don't make close to $1000 a month.

It may just be a better idea to get some loans and live in a dorm at your college if possible. If you choose to go with your plan, car insurance cheapens as years go by. Before I forget, by owning a car you have to pay a bunch of ridiculous fees to the government such as vehicle tax, inspection, registration, license plates,.

Woah woah woah...Who said anything about transmissions? Most likely, I'll be getting my internet cravings for an I-phone or an I-pad. Not too bad.

As with McDonalds, there are other fast-food restaurants that I can work in too. Despite the fact that there is less jobs now, the economic recession is starting to reverse, and by that time, I would be able to get a job, easy.

As for buying a car, I'm sure I'll be saving up some money before doing stuff like that. Of course, I'm reluctant about going to college as I don't want to be tied down by debts.

And like I said, the chances of me being attacked in very very low, the chances of my car being jacked is much higher, and even that is unlikely (1 in 297), let alone adult male predators.

 

[Mary]

Woah woah woah...Who said anything about transmissions? Most likely, I'll be getting my internet cravings for an I-phone or an I-pad. Not too bad.

As with McDonalds, there are other fast-food restaurants that I can work in too. Despite the fact that there is less jobs now, the economic recession is starting to reverse, and by that time, I would be able to get a job, easy.

As for buying a car, I'm sure I'll be saving up some money before doing stuff like that. Of course, I'm reluctant about going to college as I don't want to be tied down by debts.

And like I said, the chances of me being attacked in very very low, the chances of my car being jacked is much higher, and even that is unlikely (1 in 297), let alone adult male predators.

Transmissions as in the transmissions in cars, silly!
Hehehe..

<Apple Rant>
Don't fall for the apple trap! Those things are so anti-open source.
http://www.dell.com/us/en/business/...s=04&~oid=us~en~4~laptop-latitude-xt2_anav2~~
^That is a much better computer, in my opinion. You can get one for about $800 in the Dell Outlet store.
Why it is better than an iPad:
It isn't a netbook. Therefore, it has better memory (it's faster).
It can convert into a normal laptop in case of touchscreen crap-outs.
It has more memory.
Some of the different models can play DVDs and CDs.
</Apple Rant>

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Nerd? Who said anything about being a nerd?

 

[ashitaria]

So wait, I read over r0n's website, and I have a few plans.

1) Buy a van, put an inflatable mattress inside, install deep-cycle batteries for electricity, get one of those small kitchen-cabinets which already include a stove, and get one of those internet-where-ever-you go contracts (I heard one of these contracts costs you $50 a month.)

2) Fuel-wise, I'm planning not to move around so much so as to save money, and to stealth park around. Also, I just realized that with those deep-cycle batteries, you don't have to worry on what impact electricity has on the fuel use, and can be used for seven-hours a day with three. Meaning that my costs are cheaper.

3) Pepper spray for protection seems like a good back-up plan, but according to more experienced van-dwellers, such incidents hardly ever happen, even with single moms by themselves.

4) It seems that car-break downs rarely happen, and $50 a month to save is okay.

So then I'll be comfortable with a budget of $550 a month, but I guess most of the problems now stem from installing the equipment, saving up enough money, and getting the right equipment....

@Mary, thanks for your help. I actually already have a laptop, so it's a-okay.

Oh, and a link to find out how I get these information.

http://www.cheaprvliving.com/howtoconvertavan.html

 

[Ghyuk]

Woah woah woah...Who said anything about transmissions? Most likely, I'll be getting my internet cravings for an I-phone or an I-pad. Not too bad.

As with McDonalds, there are other fast-food restaurants that I can work in too. Despite the fact that there is less jobs now, the economic recession is starting to reverse, and by that time, I would be able to get a job, easy.

As for buying a car, I'm sure I'll be saving up some money before doing stuff like that. Of course, I'm reluctant about going to college as I don't want to be tied down by debts.

And like I said, the chances of me being attacked in very very low, the chances of my car being jacked is much higher, and even that is unlikely (1 in 297), let alone adult male predators.

About transmission read Mary's post................ I honestly don't believe the economic recession is starting to reverse. In my opinion its a bunch of lies so we as a country won't get so down and start to become more positive. Perhaps its just where I live and some other states my friends live in. But the economy isn't getting any better for them nor me.

 

[Mary]

So wait, I read over r0n's website, and I have a few plans.

1) Buy a van, put an inflatable mattress inside, install deep-cycle batteries for electricity, get one of those small kitchen-cabinets which already include a stove, and get one of those internet-where-ever-you go contracts (I heard one of these contracts costs you $50 a month.)

2) Fuel-wise, I'm planning not to move around so much so as to save money, and to stealth park around. Also, I just realized that with those deep-cycle batteries, you don't have to worry on what impact electricity has on the fuel use, and can be used for seven-hours a day with three. Meaning that my costs are cheaper.

3) Pepper spray for protection seems like a good back-up plan, but according to more experienced van-dwellers, such incidents hardly ever happen, even with single moms by themselves.

4) It seems that car-break downs rarely happen, and $50 a month to save is okay.

So then I'll be comfortable with a budget of $550 a month, but I guess most of the problems now stem from installing the equipment, saving up enough money, and getting the right equipment....

@Mary, thanks for your help. I actually already have a laptop, so it's a-okay.

Oh, and a link to find out how I get these information.

http://www.cheaprvliving.com/howtoconvertavan.html

:O
That website is amazing.
I would absolutely live in that van.
I like small spaces, anyway.
I'd prolly need a ton of storage space, though, for all my art stuffs.

 

[EditorOne]

"Woah woah woah...Who said anything about transmissions? Most likely, I'll be getting my internet cravings for an I-phone or an I-pad. Not too bad."

I'm just curious, what did you think was meant by "transmission?"

Sorry for the gender mixup, but it's irrelevant to personal security. And one of the fun things about forums is that not only don't you really know gender, it really doesn't matter.

 

[Ghyuk]

"Woah woah woah...Who said anything about transmissions? Most likely, I'll be getting my internet cravings for an I-phone or an I-pad. Not too bad."

I'm just curious, what did you think was meant by "transmission?"

Sorry for the gender mixup, but it's irrelevant to personal security. And one of the fun things about forums is that not only don't you really know gender, it really doesn't matter.

I agree, the only thing that matters is staying sexy!