Smoking weed alone

[Rome96]

Didn't know where else to put this.

I just got access to weed through a friend's friend, but none of my friends are willing to try it out since they're all religious. Is it a bad idea to smoke alone? I have very religious parents that would kill me if they found out but I figure if I'm alone for 6ish hours I'll have time to smoke it and for the effects to wear off, am I right? I don't have an addictive personality but I am very curious by nature and just want to try it out. What's your experience with weed, is it any fun?

 

[Ex-User (5841)]

Is it a bad idea to smoke alone?

Doubtful. Some people actually prefer it that way.

I have very religious parents that would kill me if they found out but I figure if I'm alone for 6ish hours I'll have time to smoke it and for the effects to wear off, am I right?

http://www.erowid.org/plants/cannabis/cannabis_effects.shtml

addictive personality

This is such a myth, but a tangential mission I won't take on atm.

What's your experience with weed, is it any fun?

Check this thread out: http://www.intpforum.com/showthread.php?t=9408

 

[Brontosaurie]

if you're surely alone and have no history of psychotic episodes i think there's nothing to fear.

start low but increase dosage quite generously if no effect is noticed, imo. the best and most economic administration device is the spliff. smoking a pipe, it is easier to light up too much of the weed at once, thus wasting precious weed as well as money and work finding it. you can make a spliff with ease by pre-rolling the paper and filling subsequently.

my first times i remember feeling both giggly and a bit frightened, as if staring into an abyss, constantly at the risk of stumbling over the slippery edge to fall down interminably. the latter has subsided and nowadays weed just makes me calm, happy and sloppily thoughtful.

 

[SpaceYeti]

I'm curious what religion has to do with not smoking weed.

 

[Ex-User (5841)]

I'm curious what religion has to do with not smoking weed.

I believe he's implying the presence of irrational authoritarianism under religious pretext. Amirite?

 

[Ex-User (5841)]

the best and most economic administration device is the spliff.

A friend of mine once told me to blow into the red bendy straw to provide perfect control over combustion, smoke dispersion, and cooling as well as re-breathing opportunity when the blue bendy straw is removed and used for inhalation purposes:

He says it works best with kief.

 

[Nick]

progress?

 

[Rome96]

Thanks for the tips =)

 

[Ex-User (5841)]

Thanks for the tips =)

 

[r4ch3l]

i prefer smoking alone, especially while i'm building a tolerance. sometimes being around people while really high (especially when you're not used to it, and especially if you're introverted) can bring a lot of anxiety. have fun and yeah, start small. i'd suggest getting your hands on a cheapo pipe and taking a couple rips throughout the night instead of rolling a j and smoking it all to your face at once.

 

[QuickTwist]

I would suggest a oney. With practice you can just kill it and hold it in your lungs until there is no more smoke. Then you can smoke in your room. I would practice this first until you know you can inhale all the smoke; holding it in can be tough too.

 

[just george]

I'm curious what religion has to do with not smoking weed.

Depends on which religion.

At the root of most of them is the idea that intoxication is a rejection of self, or a rejection of God. It follows then that people should deal with whatever the issue is regarding the decision to intoxicate by figuring out or accepting the issue, rather than using drugs to shield them from the reality that they exist to experience.

 

[ShameFace]

I would suggest a oney. With practice you can just kill it and hold it in your lungs until there is no more smoke. Then you can smoke in your room. I would practice this first until you know you can inhale all the smoke; holding it in can be tough too.

I dont think there is any reason to hold in the smoke more than a couple of seconds at the most. Holding it in for as long as you can until you start coughing, because you think its going to get you higher seems to be just one of those stoner myths.

 

[Hadoblado]

Honestly I don't understand the appeal of weed for an intuitive. I see it as an escape for people who's thoughts are too linear. They claim it opens up the mind, but if your mind is already open doesn't it just slow you down?

 

[r4ch3l]

Honestly I don't understand the appeal of weed for an intuitive. I see it as an escape for people who's thoughts are too linear. They claim it opens up the mind, but if your mind is already open doesn't it just slow you down?

100% agree.
I've never enjoyed it much, it makes me either dumb/slow, paranoid, or both. I pick up on nuances and analyze them in circles past the point of usefulness. It is anything but relaxing...which more sensor-oriented people tend to describe their experience as.

 

[redbaron]

Honestly I don't understand the appeal of weed for an intuitive. I see it as an escape for people who's thoughts are too linear. They claim it opens up the mind, but if your mind is already open doesn't it just slow you down?

Somehow I've never managed to find the right words for it, but this is how I've always felt.

 

[just george]

100% agree.
I've never enjoyed it much, it makes me either dumb/slow, paranoid, or both. I pick up on nuances and analyze them in circles past the point of usefulness. It is anything but relaxing...which more sensor-oriented people tend to describe their experience as.

the only thing it's good for is sleep, and hearing extra notes in music imo

 

[Architect]

Long term use of cannabis makes people stupid in my experience. You can see it most with the really heavy users.

Smoking cannabis really DOES make people lazy because it affects the area of the brain responsible for motivation

 

[Brontosaurie]

I pick up on nuances and analyze them in circles past the point of usefulness. It is anything but relaxing...

that's the fun

 

[Perfectly Normal Beast]

Didn't know where else to put this.

I just got access to weed through a friend's friend, but none of my friends are willing to try it out since they're all religious. Is it a bad idea to smoke alone? I have very religious parents that would kill me if they found out but I figure if I'm alone for 6ish hours I'll have time to smoke it and for the effects to wear off, am I right? I don't have an addictive personality but I am very curious by nature and just want to try it out. What's your experience with weed, is it any fun?

Sounds like a great idea! Lots of fun, lots of reduction of existential problems.
Be cautious at first since it can take hours to wear off, but eventually you may find it makes time spent in the company of certain types less like mental sodomy! Or so it seems anyway.
If you are not used to smoking anything try mixing a sprinkle of ground cloves in to the mix as it will lessen the coughing/burning sensation by anaesthetizing your throat. It also covers the smell a little which should be your first concern if you're planning to smoke it at home and don't want to be killed!

Honestly I don't understand the appeal of weed for an intuitive. I see it as an escape for people who's thoughts are too linear. They claim it opens up the mind, but if your mind is already open doesn't it just slow you down?

Yes! It slows down the mind enabling you to focus on one train of thought without interruption from all the other irrelevant thoughts which may otherwise be an unstoppable circus in your head.
I don't otherwise disagree with you though, i just think it's a drug which has multiple functions for multiple types of users.

 

[ShameFace]

Long term use of cannabis makes people stupid in my experience.

No. Just no.

 

[Etheri]

Didn't know where else to put this.

I just got access to weed through a friend's friend, but none of my friends are willing to try it out since they're all religious. Is it a bad idea to smoke alone? I have very religious parents that would kill me if they found out but I figure if I'm alone for 6ish hours I'll have time to smoke it and for the effects to wear off, am I right? I don't have an addictive personality but I am very curious by nature and just want to try it out. What's your experience with weed, is it any fun?

I definitely prefer it alone. It's safe as long as you realise it CAN make you feel worse and be hard to deal with if you're really high. It is fun. It's a bad habit if you're young, wait until you're as old as possible.

Honestly I don't understand the appeal of weed for an intuitive. I see it as an escape for people who's thoughts are too linear. They claim it opens up the mind, but if your mind is already open doesn't it just slow you down?

Sometimes, it can. Don't you wish you could stop your brain from time to time? It also lets me be far more creative and in-detail in my mind. Dreams become tangible etc. I do think people and weed are a bad combination to me, but alone it definitely has advantages.

No. Just no.

Why? Long term use in adolescents has shown to have a permanent effect on IQ, and whenever you're using (but sober at the time) you still have diminished short term memory.

 

[ShameFace]

I definitely prefer it alone. It's safe as long as you realise it CAN make you feel worse and be hard to deal with if you're really high. It is fun. It's a bad habit if you're young, wait until you're as old as possible.


Sometimes, it can. Don't you wish you could stop your brain from time to time? It also lets me be far more creative and in-detail in my mind. Dreams become tangible etc. I do think people and weed are a bad combination to me, but alone it definitely has advantages.


Why? Long term use in adolescents has shown to have a permanent effect on IQ, and whenever you're using (but sober at the time) you still have diminished short term memory.

maybe I dont understand what constitutes 'long term use' but how can an adolescent
be considered a long term user? As far as IQ, I suppose one would first have to believe in such a test as a measure of intelligence (which I do not). And I also don't understand what you mean by 'using but sober at the time'.

 

[Ex-User (5841)]

Smoking cannabis really DOES make people lazy because it affects the area of the brain responsible for motivation

Although we only looked at cannabis users who have had psychotic-like experiences while using the drug we think the findings would apply to cannabis users in general since we didn’t see a stronger effect in the subjects who have more psychotic-like symptoms.

The cannabis users in the study published in Biological Psychiatry had all experienced psychotic-like symptoms while smoking the drug such as strange sensations or having feelings of paranoia.

*Sound of Alarm Bells*
It's well known that those on the schizophrenic and/or bipolar spectra have irregularities in dopamine regulation. It wouldn't be surprising at all if these individuals experienced psychotic-like symptoms while using. The researchers are not qualified to draw the conclusions presented in the article based on their sampling methodology, which fails to differentiate between correlation and causation.

Furthermore, quoting the same article:

Other studies have looked at dopamine release in former cannabis users and not seen differences with people who haven’t taken the drug - suggesting the effects seen in this study are likely to be reversible.

No. Just no.

http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2005/10/051016083817.htm

 

[Architect]

*Sound of Alarm Bells*

Could be, I don't know or really care that much either way. All I know is that I've known a lot of pot heads in my time and they were dunces for the most part.

 

[ShameFace]

Could be, I don't know or really care that much either way. All I know is that I've known a lot of pot heads in my time and they were dunces for the most part.

could be you're giving too much credit to the pot. The general population is filled with a ton of dunces, who don't smoke pot. You know correlation does not equal causation, and all that.

 

[ObliviousGenius]

Honestly I don't understand the appeal of weed for an intuitive. I see it as an escape for people who's thoughts are too linear. They claim it opens up the mind, but if your mind is already open doesn't it just slow you down?

It makes your mind even further open. Not just intuitively but sensing as well. There are some physical things that I literally would have NEVER noticed before while high such as dirt on the floor. I would describe my intuitive thoughts as "ever-branching". One connection leads to another which leads to another which leads to understanding. I can take in more info and come to more complete conclusions (if my intuition doesn't run wild with possibilities that is). These far-reaching connections is the fun of the high imo.

At the peak of my high I'm actually MORE active. I feel like I'm wasting it by lounging around. However, when I'm starting to come down all motivation goes out the window and I just want to rest.

 

[TheScornedReflex]

It makes your mind even further open. Not just intuitively but sensing as well. There are some physical things that I literally would have NEVER noticed before while high such as dirt on the floor. I would describe my intuitive thoughts as "ever-branching". One connection leads to another which leads to another which leads to understanding. I can take in more info and come to more complete conclusions (if my intuition doesn't run wild with possibilities that is). These far-reaching connections is the fun of the high imo.

At the peak of my high I'm actually MORE active. I feel like I'm wasting it by lounging around. However, when I'm starting to come down all motivation goes out the window and I just want to rest.

This^

Except for making more connections, I get to them faster. Unless I have smoked waaaay too much. Then I become catatonic.

 

[SpaceYeti]

It makes your mind even further open. Not just intuitively but sensing as well. There are some physical things that I literally would have NEVER noticed before while high such as dirt on the floor. I would describe my intuitive thoughts as "ever-branching". One connection leads to another which leads to another which leads to understanding. I can take in more info and come to more complete conclusions (if my intuition doesn't run wild with possibilities that is). These far-reaching connections is the fun of the high imo.

At the peak of my high I'm actually MORE active. I feel like I'm wasting it by lounging around. However, when I'm starting to come down all motivation goes out the window and I just want to rest.

I notice things when I'm drunk that I don't notice when I'm sober, but I don't pretend my mind is somehow more open, even when I mix it with uppers like red bulls. An alteration in perception =/= a widening or deepening of perception... you just think differently and, thus, notice or think about different things. Thinking differently =/= thinking better.

 

[Turniphead]

Thinking differently =/= thinking better.

It can be better depending on what's it different from.

For example, It can be a useful way to get out of cyclical thinking.

 

[Duxwing]

It can be better depending on what's it different from.

For example, It can be a useful way to get out of cyclical thinking.

So's vaulting your couch.

-Duxwing

 

[QuickTwist]

I dont think there is any reason to hold in the smoke more than a couple of seconds at the most. Holding it in for as long as you can until you start coughing, because you think its going to get you higher seems to be just one of those stoner myths.

It might not get you higher but that's not the point. The point is that you could smoke in your room by yourself without anyone knowing and not getting in trouble for smoking.

The only thing I smoke now on a regular basis is tobacco without any chemicals or additives in it. Like I said in another thread, I haven't smoked weed in about 8 months. If someone is being experimental by wanting to try weed, I think they deserve that chance regardless of if their parents or anyone else say they can't.

 

[ShameFace]

It might not get you higher but that's not the point. The point is that you could smoke in your room by yourself without anyone knowing and not getting in trouble for smoking.

i see. Well, thats not something I have had to worry about for a very very long time.

 

[The Introvert]

100% agree.
I've never enjoyed it much, it makes me either dumb/slow, paranoid, or both. I pick up on nuances and analyze them in circles past the point of usefulness. It is anything but relaxing...which more sensor-oriented people tend to describe their experience as.

It's been said here multiple times that it seems as though smoking switches your functions up a bit (as far as introversion/ extraversion is concerned). Thus, a Ni-dom would become Ne-dom (which I can attest to being a fucking paradigm shift).

Tangential, but I wanna make a new thread on this coupled with the acceleration of schizophrenic tendencies with people that smoke (people with the propensity to become sz already of course).
//Rant

Anyhow, I always used the plant as a means of 'opening mental doors', so to speak. I personally experience huge and relevant shifts in cognitive abilities (I become super excited, and Ne-dom [I think] which means I'm grabbing thoughts from seemingly nowhere and trying to remember them all to analyze later when I'm done).

That being said, in retrospection, I am much less productive after the high. It burns me out a lot after a few hours, and it stays that way for several days (and I think it may have even facilitated my descent into paranoia, depression, and apathy [which I'm hopefully done with for good] for the last two years). Because of this, I've stopped smoking (haven't done it in ~3 months). It's an odd relationship, and I wish it wasn't so complicated. I love the way it makes me think, but I hate the way it makes me feel.

tl;dr
It has its benefits and detriments, just like anything else. Do some research before starting, make sure there isn't any history of mental problems in the family (read: schizophrenia) and don't get scared if you choose to do it (it will feel really weird, especially your 2nd-4th time).

 

[Cherry Cola]

Could be, I don't know or really care that much either way. All I know is that I've known a lot of pot heads in my time and they were dunces for the most part.

The most dangerous property of Cannabis is it's passivising effect. There's also an egg and a hen involved; however, stigma would have but one be the focus.

Troubled or different people on the fringes of society or their minds or neither, are the ones who most frequently tend to end up consuming Cannabis; thereafter, further alienation ensues as a natural consequence of the substances most often illegalized (and if not then regardless: stigmatized) status; thereby further enhancing the most prominent of its negative effects. This where the Snowball joins the Egg and the Hen, and then you've got pot heads. Tis moronic to blame this social process on the substance alone, and humans tendency to do so has caused and is causing a lot of unnecessary suffering.

Of course there are also the regular idiots to be considered, but consider also then the same idiots under the influence of other substances for the same amount of time in similar proportions. I'd rather abusers abused something harmless, because there will always be abusers.

A lot of things aren't in proportion. Limited usage of Cannabis probably carries so little negative effects that they aren't worth considering, all the while the benefits classically associated with the substance remain.

Illegality and Stigma cannot be stressed enough.