Sick Of All The Racist Forums.

[cultsmasher]

Is this another one of them? I guess we will see. At other forums I have pointed out who the real racists were and why. With forums liking members there to live in opposite land, "I" was the one who got labeled as the racist. And got banned. As well as having my thread deleted. But I will try again, here.

I will tell you of a group, the vast majority of whom, are racist as hell. It is a religion based racism. Which apparently makes it ok. But it isn't with me. This group is so racist that they would leave the best racism you might imagine a White Supremacist to have far behind in the dust. For the more fundamentalist of whom, if you poured them a glass of wine, they couldn't drink it. Because your having touched it has made it unclean. This group call themselves jews. Keep in mind that what I have to tell you doesn't have anything whatsoever to do with the war going on between israel ahd hamas.

Before I get into what they think about you, I will start out with how they view themselves. For that, I will start out with a meme that is only mostly true. Here it is.

Here is one of the things the talmud teaches.

Also, I personally fact checked all of these memes. What it shows those "people" saying they indeed did say. There is only one that I couldn't find proof positive for. This next one. Apparently on a radio news broadcast, this next meme shows part of what the former PM of israel said to the israeli parliament in a speech. Evidence for it has since disappeared. But with it basically being what the talmud teaches, I have no doubt he said it. Here it is.

Here are some other memes.

These next two memes are remarkably truthful. Especially the second one.

 

[cultsmasher]

Here is the second even more truthful meme.

 

[Perfectly Normal Beast]

And unto the angel of the church in Smyrna write; These things saith the first and the last, which was dead, and is alive; I know thy works, and tribulation, and poverty, (but thou art rich) and I know the blasphemy of them which say they are Jews, and are not, but are the synagogue of Satan. Revelation 2:8-9

Woe unto you, scribes and Pharisees, hypocrites! for ye compass sea and land to make one proselyte, and when he is made, ye make him twofold more the child of hell than yourselves. Matthew 23:15

it's not all jews and not all the satanic elites are jews

 

[dr froyd]

just had a funny thought regarding Horckheimer.. it is quite ironic that the US right wing has a hard-on for Israel considering that people like Horckheimer spent all their lives trying to destroy the right wing by linking it to fascism

however the explanation is quite simple: the US right wing simply hates muslims more than jews

plus the fact that there's a big difference between zionists and jews, of course

 

[ZenRaiden]

I think hateful people will be hateful.
I don't blame religions for it.
But much like money can be vehicle for good and evil, religion can be vehicle for good and evil.
Money and religion amplify the people we are. If we are without hate, no amount of religion and money can make us do bad things.

I do believe there is an unreasonable expectations of humans to accept things like war, oppression, supremacy of groups over another, inequality, exploitation etc.

Working on ideal balance between these civilizational forces is all we can do, but as individuals we can only be aware of these forces, to not become tools for them.
All else is on our ability to influence things in positive way if possible, no matter how small.
But I think as an individual I can barely get out of my house some days.
So a lot of it is about collective awareness.
Not necessarily counter acting these memetic agents.
More like making them fade into absolute oblivion where they belong.
So people can one day wake up and laugh at the absurd things people tried to impose on others.

I would also point out I do not believe in equality in everyone should equally suffer as I do, or everyone should be allowed to be equally happy as I do, or everyone should be equal and have the same shoes and jeans and shirts.
What I mean by equality is we should strive to equally develop potential, equally have the ability to take responsibilities and equally be able to be happy about things the way we want to be. At no point I think we should all be squares and hip about it.

But that is what is sold as equality today.

So when a Jew says something hateful, I assume they are hateful person.
I don't think it reflects on Judaism as a doctrine.
I think it reflects on humans who suffered, were bullied and oppressed and now they found a tool to get back at society for it.
So hateful people will cloak their hate in Judaism, Christianity, or any meme, that allows them to.
Ultimately the quotes I read reflect more visceral hate, than whatever is written in Talmund.

 

[cultsmasher]

And unto the angel of the church in Smyrna write; These things saith the first and the last, which was dead, and is alive; I know thy works, and tribulation, and poverty, (but thou art rich) and I know the blasphemy of them which say they are Jews, and are not, but are the synagogue of Satan. Revelation 2:8-9

Woe unto you, scribes and Pharisees, hypocrites! for ye compass sea and land to make one proselyte, and when he is made, ye make him twofold more the child of hell than yourselves. Matthew 23:15

it's not all jews and not all the satanic elites are jews

Didn't you read my thread? I didn't say all jews were racist scumbags. Just the vast majority of them.

 

[cultsmasher]

just had a funny thought regarding Horckheimer.. it is quite ironic that the US right wing has a hard-on for Israel considering that people like Horckheimer spent all their lives trying to destroy the right wing by linking it to fascism

however the explanation is quite simple: the US right wing simply hates muslims more than jews

plus the fact that there's a big difference between zionists and jews, of course

Your "explanation" is wrong. ZOG is the explanation. Death to ZOG.

 

[cultsmasher]

I think hateful people will be hateful.
I don't blame religions for it.
But much like money can be vehicle for good and evil, religion can be vehicle for good and evil.
Money and religion amplify the people we are. If we are without hate, no amount of religion and money can make us do bad things.

I do believe there is an unreasonable expectations of humans to accept things like war, oppression, supremacy of groups over another, inequality, exploitation etc.

Working on ideal balance between these civilizational forces is all we can do, but as individuals we can only be aware of these forces, to not become tools for them.
All else is on our ability to influence things in positive way if possible, no matter how small.
But I think as an individual I can barely get out of my house some days.
So a lot of it is about collective awareness.
Not necessarily counter acting these memetic agents.
More like making them fade into absolute oblivion where they belong.
So people can one day wake up and laugh at the absurd things people tried to impose on others.

I would also point out I do not believe in equality in everyone should equally suffer as I do, or everyone should be allowed to be equally happy as I do, or everyone should be equal and have the same shoes and jeans and shirts.
What I mean by equality is we should strive to equally develop potential, equally have the ability to take responsibilities and equally be able to be happy about things the way we want to be. At no point I think we should all be squares and hip about it.

But that is what is sold as equality today.

So when a Jew says something hateful, I assume they are hateful person.
I don't think it reflects on Judaism as a doctrine.
I think it reflects on humans who suffered, were bullied and oppressed and now they found a tool to get back at society for it.
So hateful people will cloak their hate in Judaism, Christianity, or any meme, that allows them to.
Ultimately the quotes I read reflect more visceral hate, than whatever is written in Talmund.

A pretty wordy way to say nothing. Sorry I didn't bother reading it all. You apparently missed the whole point of my thread. It is the jewish religion that is racist. As far as I know, there is no other that is that way. They consider themselves to be the "chosen of GOD." What does that mean? That compared to them, you are shit! They even consider themselves to be GODS! To help prove my point, I will include something that I meant to post under the meme where it says that those who slap a jew is as though he slapped a divine presence. Here is is.

rightedition.com › 2023/10/10 › israeli-rabbi-toIsraeli Rabbi to Christians: "You Shouldn't be Worshipping ...

 

[ZenRaiden]

They consider themselves to be the "chosen of GOD." What does that mean? That compared to them, you are shit! They even consider themselves to be GODS!

So they do? What am I to do about it? Maybe its true? Maybe they were chosen by God? What am I Gods secretary to know what God wants from the Jewish people?
Its everyone's job to figure out their relationship with who ever it is.
If their relationship is with God the way it is, then so be it.

 

[Black Rose]

They consider themselves to be the "chosen of GOD." What does that mean? That compared to them, you are shit! They even consider themselves to be GODS!

Do you read the Bible?

God has a plan for humanity that began with Abraham.

Before him, there was no way for humanity to think of God as loving or caring.

Before Abraham were the property of any "god" to do with as they pleased.

Jesus was supposed to be the next step where God showed he truly cared.

Many Jews do believe in Jesus and they are coming closer to him.

Jewish lives transformed by the Jewish Messiah! - Join us in telling their stories!

 

[cultsmasher]

They consider themselves to be the "chosen of GOD." What does that mean? That compared to them, you are shit! They even consider themselves to be GODS!

So they do? What am I to do about it? Maybe its true? Maybe they were chosen by God? What am I Gods secretary to know what God wants from the Jewish people?
Its everyone's job to figure out their relationship with who ever it is.
If their relationship is with God the way it is, then so be it.

There is no, "so they do." They do. How much proof do you need. Also, are you shit? If not, you should do something about it. DEFEND YOURSELF! If you need any suggestions, just let me know.

 

[cultsmasher]

They consider themselves to be the "chosen of GOD." What does that mean? That compared to them, you are shit! They even consider themselves to be GODS!

Do you read the Bible?

God has a plan for humanity that began with Abraham.

Before him, there was no way for humanity to think of God as loving or caring.

Before Abraham were the property of any "god" to do with as they pleased.

Jesus was supposed to be the next step where God showed he truly cared.

Many Jews do believe in Jesus and they are coming closer to him.

Jewish lives transformed by the Jewish Messiah! - Join us in telling their stories!

I did an introduction thread called, "Hi. I am cultsmasher." As to your question if I read the bible, read reply #16 in that thread.

 

[ZenRaiden]

There is no, "so they do." They do. How much proof do you need

If they do, then they do.... beyond jews there is all kind of power-struggles in life.
I did not question your assumption at any level if you notice.
I was responding to your claims as if they are true.

If not, you should do something about it. DEFEND YOURSELF! If you need any suggestions, just let me know.

Do you like Mel Brooks? Good movies?
I trust that you mean some reasonable self defense against supremacist jews.
Well I am all ears.

 

[Cognisant]

however the explanation is quite simple: the US right wing simply hates muslims more than jews

Yes.

The Jews are simply white Arabs, they're Arab Lite, the Jews at least have the decency to try and hide their pedophilia whereas the Arabs openly marry minors.

The great thing about Israel is that it's a bug zapper for Islamic extremists, the service they're doing for the rest of the world by merely existing is invaluable.

I also think the Christians are garbage but on a scale from neatly stacked sheets of cardboard to those prawn heads you threw in the wheelie bin a week ago they're the less disgusting kind. They could be a problem but while we're dealing with Niggers stabbing and curb stomping people in the streets, raping women on public transport and breaking into people's homes to murder/rob them, well they're not that bad.

And by Niggers I specifically mean the uncivilized black people, the existence of feral dogs doesn't mean all dogs are feral, this goes double for Indians, there's a profound divide between the civilized Indians and the ones shitting on the street because that's their culture.

You think I'm racist? Go ask an African or Indian, they know, the civilized ones are fucking ashamed of the ones that aren't.

 

[ZenRaiden]

You think I'm racist? Go ask an African or Indian, they know, the civilized ones are fucking ashamed of the ones that aren't.

Because shame is rooted in colonial states.
They had civilization then they were stripped of it.
Now they have to reconcile it.
Its not our job to judge them if white people caused this and never helped, but exploited them.
Look at the Indians and their history. I mean the American ones.
China did not have this problem as their government was native and so people were more receptive to new industries.
Some nations are still being exploited like Nigeria, and they suffer still. Warlords shooting people in streets.

 

[scorpiomover]

I will tell you of a group, the vast majority of whom, are racist as hell. It is a religion based racism. Which apparently makes it ok. But it isn't with me. This group is so racist that they would leave the best racism you might imagine a White Supremacist to have far behind in the dust.

So you're reviving the old "blood libel" stuff and the "protocol of the elders of zion" stuff? How unoriginal of you. Also, considering that when this sort of thing was stated, it led to men like you raping babies, and killing thousands of people, it sounds like you're encouraging mass murder and genocide.

For the more fundamentalist of whom, if you poured them a glass of wine, they couldn't drink it. Because your having touched it has made it unclean.

Rubbish. You didn't research this. If you had, you'd have known that everyone today is in a state of ritual uncleanness. That's not the reason.

It's a Rabbinic decree, because so many people sanctified their wine in the name of their god, which made their wine an object of idol worship, that they banned any wine, unless you can be sure that it wasn't made into a form of idol worship.

This group call themselves jews. Keep in mind that what I have to tell you doesn't have anything whatsoever to do with the war going on between israel ahd hamas.

So the fact that there's been lots of people like you, attacking Jews in the UK right now because of the Gaza conflict, and you just so happen to be saying this at the same time, is pure coincidence? Rather convenient for you if that was true, right?

I call BS. You're just jumping on the bandwagon.

Before I get into what they think about you, I will start out with how they view themselves. For that, I will start out with a meme that is only mostly true. Here it is.

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Here is one of the things the talmud teaches.

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The Talmud also says that a Jewish court must try to find any way they can to jistify not executing anyone. That's not saying they would be killed, only that if the world was judged purely on what is just, that G-d would kill them, and that if they don't repent their ways and be a good person, then at some point, G-d will probably send them floods, or heatwaves, or a global pandemic, or war, to kill all the bad people.

Also, I personally fact checked all of these memes. What it shows those "people" saying they indeed did say.

No, you didn't, because all of those statements come with commentaries that discuss what those statements actually meant, which you didn't cover. So you have words, but no understanding of what those words meant.

Why didn't you quote the sections where the Talmud says that the reason that Jews offerered 70 sacrifices at the festival of Succot, that you call "Tabernacles", was so that G-d would give rain and food to the 70 nations of the world?

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They're usually atheists or non-religious, and you're complaining about the Jewish religion.

Where's the emoticon for being a dumb-ass?

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She's a MUSLIM, and you're complaining about Jews.

Where's the emoticon for being a dumb-ass?

 

[Cognisant]

Because shame is rooted in colonial states.
They had civilization then they were stripped of it.
Now they have to reconcile it.

Oh fuck off, they were always savages, that's why the British were able to more or less conquer the world, because everyone who wasn't European was either tribal or part of some warlord's kingdom. Guess what happens when cannibal tribes and mercenary militias meet a professional standing army, a well trained straight-backed wall of guns, they get their shit rocked that's what.

There are no noble savages, fact is people are people and no matter where you go or who you meet they're all the same, the British too, the difference is they were a better class of savage. That's what civilization is, it's the next step up from tribes and kingdoms, it's what the world looks like when people stop wiping their ass with their left hand and actually get their shit together, by building sewers.

Look at the Indians and their history. I mean the American ones.

Yes look at them, some are wildly successful, some successfully integrated into modern society, and then there's the pot smoking loincloth wearing dipshits who think they're owed a place in this world because they were born.

Some nations are still being exploited like Nigeria, and they suffer still. Warlords shooting people in streets.

Oh no those terrible white warlords... oh wait they're all black aren't they?

There's still slavery in Africa, it's the Africans enslaving each other, as they've been doing for thousands of years. That is their culture, they didn't get it from the white man.

 

[ZenRaiden]

Oh fuck off, they were always savages, that's why the British were able to more or less conquer the world, because everyone who wasn't European was either tribal or part of some warlord's kingdom. Guess what happens when cannibal tribes and mercenary militias meet a professional standing army, a well trained straight-backed wall of guns, they get their shit rocked that's what.

Think about the British always were and still are in sense colonial. Yes some colonial armies were strong. We were doing this for very long time. Its natural. Exploitation was our and everyone's history. I am not here to preach care bear stuff, but ......

There are no noble savages, fact is people are people and no matter where you go or who you meet they're all the same, the British too, the difference is they were a better class of savage. That's what civilization is, it's the next step up from tribes and kingdoms, it's what the world looks like when people stop wiping their ass with their left hand and actually get their shit together, by building sewers.

A cat is savage, a eagle is savage, all kinds of animals are savage. I can sit at home with apex predator like dog and pet him on his head. You and I are savage, yet here we are talking smart things.

Yes look at them, some are wildly successful, some successfully integrated into modern society, and then there's the pot smoking loincloth wearing dipshits who think they're owed a place in this world because they were born.

No one is owned anything, beyond what is given. But with this thinking we set a limit of mercy on who we help.

Oh no those terrible white warlords... oh wait they're all black aren't they?

There's still slavery in Africa, it's the Africans enslaving each other, as they've been doing for thousands of years. That is their culture, they didn't get it from the white man.

Yes they are black, and we benefit from them killing each other, so we can go to work on cars and have a morning toast before work. So we could talk high and mighty all the time.

There are no noble savages, fact is people are people and no matter where you go or who you meet they're all the same, the British too, the difference is they were a better class of savage. That's what civilization is, it's the next step up from tribes and kingdoms, it's what the world looks like when people stop wiping their ass with their left hand and actually get their shit together, by building sewers.

Oh wow. So your life has only value if you happen to be born in the right place.
Not how I see it.
I don't want to preach, but we got lot more from these savages, including knowledge, that arguably put us on the moon, and gave us medicine and shit, we did not have. They basically gave us the religions we have today.
So somehow these primitive savages were worthy of emulating and useful to us.
But we kind of call them names now.

 

[ZenRaiden]

They're usually atheists or non-religious, and you're complaining about the Jewish religion.

Where's the emoticon for being a dumb-ass?

She's a MUSLIM, and you're complaining about Jews.

Where's the emoticon for being a dumb-ass?

Good catch. Never really thought quotes in memes could be wrong.
Sad thing is most quotes I ever hear on internet are always wrong, so much so I realized that even pages that deal with attribution get sometimes things wrong.
The internet is like copy of a copy of a copy of a copy.

So knowledge on internet is like quick sand.

 

[Black Rose]

Because shame is rooted in colonial states.
They had civilization then they were stripped of it.
Now they have to reconcile it.

All civilizations are about city-states concurring neighboring city-states.

The only reason people are mad is because the racial differences are so extreme the hate can be much greater than your next-door cousin stealing your sheep.

Besides that, it was not civilization that was stripped of them because all civilizations existed as stone masons but what happened was that industrialization changed all civilizations to the combustion engine. What people really get mad about is the cultural shift that technology brought. The Amish for example don't like that much technology so they separated from it to preserve their culture but culture is not the same as civilization. Civilization is the mass-scale production of cities with stone or with oil.

Its not our job to judge them if white people caused this and never helped, but exploited them.
Look at the Indians and their history. I mean the American ones.

It took 100 thousand years for the earth to be colonized by humans. This created mass extinctions of the mammoth and Wolly Rino. Humans did bad things. That is what humans do. So yes humans killed other humans and because the race differences were high this made tensions high. But the people in the Americas killed each other also in severe ways of torture. Eventually, they would exploit people by the same means of technology as white people given how barbaric the tortures were.

China did not have this problem as their government was native and so people were more receptive to new industries.

They had civilizations (cities) and huge wars that other cultures did not have for thousands of years.

Some nations are still being exploited like Nigeria, and they suffer still. Warlords shooting people in streets.

Sometimes that happens because those people did not evolve to live in cities like the Chinese did for thousands of years. They lived this way (with jungle war loads) far longer than China has existed. I mean if the people in the Americas were more exploited why are they not in the same situations as the African countries? I think it is the fact that cultures of each race and ethnicity have a different way of adapting to the environments by their evolutionary histories.

 

[scorpiomover]

just had a funny thought regarding Horckheimer.. it is quite ironic that the US right wing has a hard-on for Israel considering that people like Horckheimer spent all their lives trying to destroy the right wing by linking it to fascism

The left-wing keeps saying that the right-wing are evil racists/sexists/homophobes/bigots/stupid/ignorant, and say that the only way the world will be free of evil is when the right-wing are completely wiped from existence.

The right-wing just seem to keep doing their thing. They seem to bomb people like Al-Quaeda. But it's not like they shot Bill Clinton 6 times in the head on a grassy knoll, or sent someone to shoot Hillary Clinton or Joe Biden when they went to see "Hamilton" in the theatre.

however the explanation is quite simple: the US right wing simply hates muslims more than jews

The right wing are more conservative than the left-wing, that is, they rely on ideas that are a few centuries old, rather than ideas that are a few decades old.

Jews have been in Europe for 1,000 years, and in the US since it started. Muslims have only been there in large numbers since about the 1960s.

plus the fact that there's a big difference between zionists and jews, of course

Most Jews, religious and non-religious, support the existence of the State of Israel as a fallback in case anti-Semitism gets too big, like when Jews in Muslim lands had to leave for Israel in the 1950s due to riots, and how many Jews in France left France for Israel because of the Charlie Hebdo incident.

The only Jews I come across who are anti-Zionist, are mainly 2 groups:

1) Jews who are so non-religious and assimilated that they don't really think of themselves as Jews.

2) Jews who are so religious that they reject modern conceptions of religions, and embrace the very old religious approach that the State of Israel is only supposed to happen when the End Times come along, i.e. the Jewish Messiah arrives, Elijah the prophet announces he's come back to Earth, the Resurrection of the dead happens, G-d drops a new Temple on the site of the old one, and everyone in the world announces they all believe in the Jewish G-d.

 

[ZenRaiden]

Civilization is the mass-scale production of cities with stone or with oil.

OK, scaling of civilization. To me anything beyond roughly 1000 people living permanently in one place stinks of civilization already. Complexity emerging from that gave us now.

It took 100 thousand years for the earth to be colonized by humans. This created mass extinctions of the mammoth and Wolly Rino. Humans did bad things. That is what humans do. So yes humans killed other humans and because the race differences were high this made tensions high. But the people in the Americas killed each other also in severe ways of torture. Eventually, they would exploit people by the same means of technology as white people given how barbaric the tortures were.

Not all are the same, but x wrong does not justify y wrong against x. That is kind of like saying if cannibals in new guinea are eating humans, we should eat them. Whats the point? If we do wrong we did wrong.

They had civilizations (cities) and huge wars that other cultures did not have for thousands of years.

I meant China in 20th century specifically. Because that when industrialization happened there and also that is when the Brits tried controlling it. I don't see why its important to point out this thought. Were we the ubermensch fighting wars too against each other? If we judge someone we need a meaningful standard or metric.
So I judge things lets say in 20ths century I cannot compare it to 14th century. But to be fair I jumped a lot in what I was saying to make my point.

Sometimes that happens because those people did not evolve to live in cities like the Chinese did for thousands of years. They lived this way (with jungle war loads) far longer than China has existed. I mean if the people in the Americas were more exploited why are they not in the same situations as the African countries? I think it is the fact that cultures of each race and ethnicity have a different way of adapting to the environments by their evolutionary histories.

Colonization can be easily understood, - the dead don't speak.
If you kill 1 milion of Africans and all you see is 3 warlords who are fighting for bit of oil, then of course you can make assumptions.
How about someone kills all the new yorkers and then we make a story about their decadent civilization based on watching Seinfeld.

 

[Black Rose]

So I judge things lets say in 20ths century I cannot compare it to 14th century. But to be fair I jumped a lot in what I was saying to make my point.

Whats the point? If we do wrong we did wrong.

If you are judging by different standards then you have no point.

I am trying to look at it by what I know not what I don't know.

So why are you judging things now by what happened 100 or 200 or 300 years ago?

 

[ZenRaiden]

If you are judging by different standards then you have no point.

I am trying to look at it by what I know not what I don't know.

So why are you judging things now by what happened 100 or 200 or 300 years ago?

That is not remotely what I said first time or second time.
I was talking in context of history.
If you know what colonialism means, it can mean lots of things.
It can be about 15 century Italy, or it can be 18th or 19th or 20th or 21st century respectively.
Most people know remotely that somewhere in history people started building ships as companies and traveled to other places to get good stuff.
Lets be honest that is the scope the discussion is going to be, because no one teaches colonial history at all.

I was talking about unknown uknowns. SO if I ask you a simple question how much of human history do we know? Is it 20 percent 10 percent or 90 percent or 1 percent?
Well the answer is we don't know. For all we know we might have uncovered .1 percent of human history.

One thing though is common in history, that the lens we look at history is exactly same as we see ourselves.
So colonial history was often seen as net positive. Then people started fighting for human rights and people were educated and now people over corrected and made colonies as helpless victims. Either way we aren't studying history as much as we are doing Rorschach ink blot tests if we don't know the facts.

So the main point I was trying to say, that we say x about history because we are interpreting history to our likes and dislikes rather than what are the facts.
Hence the history is more like a personality thing than factual thing.
However I am more interested in facts.

 

[Black Rose]

So the main point I was trying to say, that we say x about history because we are interpreting history to our likes and dislikes rather than what are the facts.
Hence the history is more like a personality thing than factual thing.
However I am more interested in facts.

Then why did you impose your ethical standards on the facts I was presenting?

 

[Black Rose]

I was talking in context of history.

So was I (you assumed different?)

If the technology for colonization was invented anywhere but Europe would that "civilization" use that technology to colonize in the same way Europeans did (exploitation or whatever)?

 

[Black Rose]

So colonial history was often seen as net positive. Then people started fighting for human rights and people were educated and now people over corrected and made colonies as helpless victims. Either way we aren't studying history as much as we are doing Rorschach ink blot tests if we don't know the facts.

Do you believe continental colonization happened on other planets in the universe and if so was it done by Europeans or some other group? I want to know what the consequences are for blaming groups when it is just that technologies have no set boundaries for anyone privileged group. Think of this from the philosophical perspective of the show Star Trek. I can if need be listen to what the facts are you present but I need all the context for any ethical assumptions you are making.

 

[dr froyd]

The right wing are more conservative than the left-wing, that is, they rely on ideas that are a few centuries old, rather than ideas that are a few decades old.

Jews have been in Europe for 1,000 years, and in the US since it started. Muslims have only been there in large numbers since about the 1960s.

not sure i understand your logic but antisemitism was rampant in US until WWII, with catholics and right-wingers being at the forefront of antisemitic movements

i dont know how exactly that eventually vanished but I would guess it had a lot to do with the emergence of the new left in the 60s, which was a movement largely founded on the thinking of people like horkheimer and marcuse - who were leftist/marxist jews, and whose ideas about social justice were largely based on their fight against antisemitism

i.e. not being antisemitic is almost certainly not a natural right-wing or conservative stance

 

[Black Rose]

These are the two extremes of left and right:

right: ethnostate (man is completely fixed by genes and culture is just war between your group and the outgroup)

left: behaviorism (man is completely programmable to be anything through conditioning)

These are not philosophies they are ideologies, neither is true, what is true is something in the middle.

 

[cultsmasher]

There is no, "so they do." They do. How much proof do you need

If they do, then they do.... beyond jews there is all kind of power-struggles in life.
I did not question your assumption at any level if you notice.
I was responding to your claims as if they are true.

If not, you should do something about it. DEFEND YOURSELF! If you need any suggestions, just let me know.

Do you like Mel Brooks? Good movies?
I trust that you mean some reasonable self defense against supremacist jews.
Well I am all ears.

You asked me in a reply, "What am I to do about it." I have a question for you on that matter. Is there anything you want to do about it? But first, maybe I should ask you if you are White. Because the jews have been and still are successfully conducting a campaign of genocide against Whites. So if you are White and want to do something about it, there is plenty you can do. You have more power than you think you do. They say the pen is mightier than the sword. If you could help me unleash my pen at forums where it really matters, instead of ghost town forums like this, there is MUCH that could be accomplished.

 

[ZenRaiden]

Do you believe continental colonization happened on other planets in the universe and if so was it done by Europeans or some other group? I want to know what the consequences are for blaming groups when it is just that technologies have no set boundaries for anyone privileged group. Think of this from the philosophical perspective of the show Star Trek. I can if need be listen to what the facts are you present but I need all the context for any ethical assumptions you are making.

Look I am not going to pretend like me looking back at history is pure sanitized non judgmental objective view, I do have qualms with the past things people do.
However its not based in "They should have not done that". Its more like "Too bad it happened" and "We should try to avoid the same mistakes, because its in our own self interest not to make those mistakes."

 

[ZenRaiden]

They say the pen is mightier than the sword. If you could help me unleash my pen at forums where it really matters, instead of ghost town forums like this, there is MUCH that could be accomplished.

You go ahead and do what you must do.
Truth be told by the looks of it you are on mission.
I am not sure what you want me to do?
I don't even understand half the things you mean, and I certainly don't get where you get your information from.

 

[Black Rose]

Do you believe continental colonization happened on other planets in the universe and if so was it done by Europeans or some other group? I want to know what the consequences are for blaming groups when it is just that technologies have no set boundaries for anyone privileged group. Think of this from the philosophical perspective of the show Star Trek. I can if need be listen to what the facts are you present but I need all the context for any ethical assumptions you are making.

Look I am not going to pretend like me looking back at history is pure sanitized non judgmental objective view, I do have qualms with the past things people do.
However its not based in "They should have not done that". Its more like "Too bad it happened" and "We should try to avoid the same mistakes, because its in our own self interest not to make those mistakes."

That is fair.

We should learn from our mistakes and do what is ethical to do today.

I agree we do not have the best way to look at history, I just think that historians do debate better than on public forums like this.

 

[cultsmasher]

I will tell you of a group, the vast majority of whom, are racist as hell. It is a religion based racism. Which apparently makes it ok. But it isn't with me. This group is so racist that they would leave the best racism you might imagine a White Supremacist to have far behind in the dust.

So you're reviving the old "blood libel" stuff and the "protocol of the elders of zion" stuff? How unoriginal of you. Also, considering that when this sort of thing was stated, it led to men like you raping babies, and killing thousands of people, it sounds like you're encouraging mass murder and genocide.

For the more fundamentalist of whom, if you poured them a glass of wine, they couldn't drink it. Because your having touched it has made it unclean.

Rubbish. You didn't research this. If you had, you'd have known that everyone today is in a state of ritual uncleanness. That's not the reason.

It's a Rabbinic decree, because so many people sanctified their wine in the name of their god, which made their wine an object of idol worship, that they banned any wine, unless you can be sure that it wasn't made into a form of idol worship.

This group call themselves jews. Keep in mind that what I have to tell you doesn't have anything whatsoever to do with the war going on between israel ahd hamas.

So the fact that there's been lots of people like you, attacking Jews in the UK right now because of the Gaza conflict, and you just so happen to be saying this at the same time, is pure coincidence? Rather convenient for you if that was true, right?

I call BS. You're just jumping on the bandwagon.

Before I get into what they think about you, I will start out with how they view themselves. For that, I will start out with a meme that is only mostly true. Here it is.

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Here is one of the things the talmud teaches.

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The Talmud also says that a Jewish court must try to find any way they can to jistify not executing anyone. That's not saying they would be killed, only that if the world was judged purely on what is just, that G-d would kill them, and that if they don't repent their ways and be a good person, then at some point, G-d will probably send them floods, or heatwaves, or a global pandemic, or war, to kill all the bad people.

Also, I personally fact checked all of these memes. What it shows those "people" saying they indeed did say.

No, you didn't, because all of those statements come with commentaries that discuss what those statements actually meant, which you didn't cover. So you have words, but no understanding of what those words meant.

Why didn't you quote the sections where the Talmud says that the reason that Jews offerered 70 sacrifices at the festival of Succot, that you call "Tabernacles", was so that G-d would give rain and food to the 70 nations of the world?

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They're usually atheists or non-religious, and you're complaining about the Jewish religion.

Where's the emoticon for being a dumb-ass?

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She's a MUSLIM, and you're complaining about Jews.

Where's the emoticon for being a dumb-ass?

1. The jews did and likely do practice ritual human sacrifice. Which is far worse than sucking baby dick. Which some of them also do. But when it comes to human sacrifice, you should look for and read an interview Oprah Winfrey did with a Jewish woman named Vicki Polin went by "Rachel" on the show. She claimed to have been forced to take part in satanic rituals involving the sacrifice of children. She went on to form an organization called The Awareness Center to help victims of such things. Next, I would never rape a baby. Though why shouldn't I wish on those who wish the same thing for me.

2. Bullshit. I looked it up myself. There are fundamentalist jews who wouldn't drink a glass of wine poured for them by a non jew. Neither do I care how they wish to paint it.

3. I have had these views for a long time. I wrote a book over 20 years ago that lightly touched on the subject called, "Our Holy Hell: The Causes, The Solutions." You can read it for free on the internet. That was long before israel and hamas went to war. And since that time, I have learned MUCH more about jews.

4. Don't even try to tell me what the talmud says. The pile of filth. For instance, take this quote from the talmud. It is in Tractate Niddah, Folio 45a. It says, "In one, for instance, where her husband had intercourse with her before the age of three and found blood, and when when he had intercourse after the age of three he found no blood." As I said, they suck baby dick. (I could provide pictures and a video if you want) Are you going to justify fucking babies to me?

5. Now you've really gone off the deep end. Sure, no doubt all those people had other things to say. But they said what they said. The words mean what they mean. Deal with it.

6. You are the dumbass. They are jewish and they said what they did. End of story. Thouhg I do have another meme for you by another jew who in theory should have been atheist. He was the head of the NKVD. His name was Genrikh Yagoda. And he is said to have orchestrated the untimely deaths of at least 10 million people. Read it and weep.

7. Well, you made a point. It's a miracle. The woman who said that she didn't like White people was indeed muslim. Who would have guessed that a muslim would say the same sort of crap that all those jews did. Thanks for the information.

 

[Grayman]

Racism in it's literal meaning is just arrogance based on race or ethnicity. I dislike arrogance but it's a human condition we all have to deal with in people in time to time. People are allowed to think they are better.

I also have a problem with stereotyping, hate, and prejudice. This is often what people think of when they talk about racism. That's why the OP is a problem. It's a giant prejudiced stereotyping of jews as if they are all racists. It's the same thing we get from the radical left, that whites are all racists and oppressors. Or that all blacks are criminals.

Now comes the vile of things that has been historically what racism is before everything became racist. The most evil of racism wasnt just veiwing your race as superior. The most vile of racism was viewing others as sub-human or not even human at all. With this mindset there isn't anything you couldn't legitimize doing to others. Enslaving them and killing them. Ie.. Blacks, Jews, and the unborn.
The people that dehumanize others, those are the true racists.


So, OP, your post is prejudiced and ignorant. If you had a problem with the religion, Judaism, because it teaches and encourages racism,why not argue that? No, you instead made it about Jews. So now you have revealed your true ire.

You may even have a good point about the religion and some fair criticism about how it is practiced, but most people aren't going to listen now that you led with prejudiced views instead of rational unbiased reasoning. The only people who will listen are those who already dislike jews and want more reasons to validate that hatred.

 

[scorpiomover]

The right wing are more conservative than the left-wing, that is, they rely on ideas that are a few centuries old, rather than ideas that are a few decades old.

Jews have been in Europe for 1,000 years, and in the US since it started. Muslims have only been there in large numbers since about the 1960s.

not sure i understand your logic but antisemitism was rampant in US until WWII, with catholics and right-wingers being at the forefront of antisemitic movements

i dont know how exactly that eventually vanished

Anti-Semitism didn't vanish after that. It was still happening in the 1970s, and the 1980s, and even this past year.

But when the world discovered what had been happening in the concentration camps during WW2, they were all embarrassed, because the Allies didn't bomb any of the camps. They felt guilty because they had had a hand in the genocide, which was why the UN voted for a State of Israel soon after the war.

They still feel guilty.

but I would guess it had a lot to do with the emergence of the new left in the 60s, which was a movement largely founded on the thinking of people like horkheimer and marcuse - who were leftist/marxist jews, and whose ideas about social justice were largely based on their fight against antisemitism

The leftist/marxists were around since the 1850s.

i.e. not being antisemitic is almost certainly not a natural right-wing or conservative stance

Lots of people have been anti-Semitic. For instance, academics, who are almost all left-wing.

 

[scorpiomover]

1. The jews did and likely do practice ritual human sacrifice. Which is far worse than sucking baby dick. Which some of them also do. But when it comes to human sacrifice, you should look for and read an interview Oprah Winfrey did with a Jewish woman named Vicki Polin went by "Rachel" on the show. She claimed to have been forced to take part in satanic rituals involving the sacrifice of children. She went on to form an organization called The Awareness Center to help victims of such things.

Archaeological evidence shows that the Carthaginians practiced human sacrifice, and so did the British, and from what I understand, the Central Americans. So it was common all over the world.

I'm sure that some Jews have, because I don't believe in perfectionism. But they don't deny that they're imperfect, because they read that their ancestors were idol-worshippers every year at Passover, even though it's one of the worst crimes in their religion, to show themselves that they're not perfect. So they're honest about it.

You, however, seem to think it's the norm amongst certain groups. Not surprising. The economy is much worse. People are struggling for money. Jews tend to have more money on average than someone like yourself. You're looking for someone to blame for all the problems of the world, so that you and your friends don't get the blame. Same as when some kid picks on another kid in the playground so that he doesn't get picked on.

Next, I would never rape a baby.

Of course you'd say that. You wouldn't admit to it. So that's no proof.

2. Bullshit. I looked it up myself. There are fundamentalist jews who wouldn't drink a glass of wine poured for them by a non jew. Neither do I care how they wish to paint it.

They also won't drink wine from a bottle that has been touched by a Jew who doesn't keep the Sabbath. So I should be upset that they won't drink from wine touched by you, but not upset that they won't drink from wine that was touched by fellow Jews? How noble of you.

Go ahead and put your pinky in your friend's beer. See if they drink it.

3. I have had these views for a long time. I wrote a book over 20 years ago that lightly touched on the subject called, "Our Holy Hell: The Causes, The Solutions." You can read it for free on the internet. That was long before israel and hamas went to war.

I'm sure that the Hamas fighters wanted to kill Jews 20 years ago. But you only made an appearance here now. Why now? This site has been around for ages.

4. Don't even try to tell me what the talmud says. The pile of filth. For instance, take this quote from the talmud. It is in Tractate Niddah, Folio 45a. It says, "In one, for instance, where her husband had intercourse with her before the age of three and found blood, and when when he had intercourse after the age of three he found no blood." As I said, they suck baby dick. (I could provide pictures and a video if you want) Are you going to justify fucking babies to me?

The Talmud also talks about if you make a Succah out of a dead elephant. They discuss the extremes, because they wanted to add rules to keep Jews from ever getting to those extremes.

The British empiricists also discussed the extremes of empiricism and where empiricism breaks down, for the same reason, because you can't expect to be successful with empiricism unless you know where it won't work.

That completely bypassed you, which is why your empiricism is cr*p, and your evidence and logic proves nothing.

5. Now you've really gone off the deep end. Sure, no doubt all those people had other things to say. But they said what they said. The words mean what they mean. Deal with it.

So you take everything literally?

6. You are the dumbass. They are jewish and they said what they did. End of story. Thouhg I do have another meme for you by another jew who in theory should have been atheist. He was the head of the NKVD. His name was Genrikh Yagoda. And he is said to have orchestrated the untimely deaths of at least 10 million people. Read it and weep.

Lots of atheist Jews joined in the Russian Revolution. That was well known. They beleived they were doing the right thing. They were wrong. Should I assume that just because some people from your nation raped babies, that all of them do? In that case, you would be forced to conclude that you rape babies.

7. Well, you made a point. It's a miracle. The woman who said that she didn't like White people was indeed muslim. Who would have guessed that a muslim would say the same sort of crap that all those jews did. Thanks for the information.

You were citing Jews. You were clearly wrong and didn't even bother to check even basic facts that you were citing. That goes to show how good your information is.

 

[kora]

Locking this thread for promoting anti-semitic conspiracy theories, and for being pretty horrible about muslims and black people.

@cultsmasher I missed your intro thread but if you bring up this topic again, in this manner (with a tone that unnecessarily hostile), I'll ban you.

@Cognisant I'm not banning you immediately, but if I see you use a racial slur again I will.