Short version of you know you're an INTP when...

[Onty]

INTP's features [needs development]

Q = questionable
~ = intencity may vary from dominative to merely visible

1. Social.
1.1 Not liking crowds. ~
1.2 Using narcissic jokes. Q
1.3 Not liking physical contact. ~
1.4 Not liking repetitive grammar/logic mistakes.
1.5 Ability to stay without any people for several weeks (without problems).
1.6 Overcomplicated jokes. Q
1.7 Lack of emotions.
1.8 Tolerance and patience.
1.9 Not liking traditional unnecessary things.
1.10 <NEW> Not caring about appearances. ~

2. Skills.
2.1 Disguising lack of emotions.
2.2 Knowing and using lots of words.
2.3 Good logic.
2.4 Good memory for citations. Q

3. Other
3.1 Poor unintended facial expressions.
3.2 Lack of confidence
3.3 Bad memory on dates, names, geography and other unstructurized information.
3.4 But good memory on faces.
3.5 Not demanding.
3.6 Lots of hobbies.
3.7 Constant reflection of previously said/thought/made.
3.8 Sleeping/eating/washing is considered a waste of time. Q
3.9 A lot of mental activity.
3.10 Daydreaming as a result of previous point.
3.11 No need in perfect order at home nor at work.
3.12 Not making things in time.
3.13 Not considering name (body Q) part of yourself.

4. Facts from life
4.1 Glorious moment of realising of not being an violation of nature after figuring out the exsistance of other INTP's.
4.2 Plans/fantasies of being a demigod.
4.3 Telling mostly truth or undetectable lies because lies per se are dangerous.
4.4 Hard to give pure attention to one who asked for it (childs).
4.5 Claiming certain words pointless (without proper additional definition).
4.6 Wondering what it would be like to have been born the opposite sex.
4.7 Use parenthesis or slashes in your sentences.
4.8 Answering stupid answer on stupid question.
4.9 Correcting college teacher in front of the class.
4.10 Hitting someone for trying to give you a hug.
4.11 Playing "but why" game.
4.12 Walking on tiles in a predetermined pattern. Q-

PS That information was gathered from that topic http://www.intpforum.com/showthread.php?t=2599, typelogic INTP description and my own experience (and analysis of that experience).
I tried to make it as short and randomlulzless as possible. Yet I'd like that topic to be exceedingly informative. Hence descriptions/additions with proven importance would be added. For aforementioned reasons anyone is welcome to correct my mistakes (my native language is russian).

 

[Glordag]

You take a thread full of humor and enjoyment and attempt to form a framework by which all enjoyment and humor must be removed simply in the pursuit of knowledge. ~Q

 

[pjoa09]

I am not good with essays. I couldn't write more than one gigantic sentence for the introduction. Walking on tiles in a pattern when bored. Usually I use race lines.

 

[Zionoxis]

My essays always turn out to be ADD because I misread the prompt and thus, either wrote about the wrong thing, or could not find enough to write about the subject. Also, I call bullshit on the lack of emotions. I have emotions plenty, I just try my best to not let them get in the way of my judgement (and if we were to get into a objective/subjective debate, even then that is up for grabs).

As for names, I am absolutely horrible. I am great at faces though. Many times, I have no idea what the person's name is, but I have almost a perfect picture of their face in my mind.

 

[alrai]

I don't lack emotions, but its not difficult to repress them if the logic disagrees, so the objectivity is still apparent, primarily, i trust in it to come to more reliable decisions. Yeah, I'm terrible with names too, most of my friends are aware of this as they have witnessed on more than 1 occasion.

 

[Onty]

I am not good with essays. I couldn't write more than one gigantic sentence for the introduction. Walking on tiles in a pattern when bored. Usually I use race lines.

I'll put Q mark on those essays. For me they were hard before 16 years old. Then I figured out how to write essays with some imagination and little effort. Maybe you just hadn't found that easy way based on INTPness?
Well, walking on lines, patterns combined with analysis of bodily kynetics and trying to find the flaw in brick's structure. I'm not really sure bout that one, because I asked some of my friends and got positive result (yet not overcomplicated).

@Zinoxis,
seems essays are not worthy enough for that list...
Same here, good with faces, awful with names . Don't you have any problems with geography? (recalled just now)

 

[EyeSeeCold]

Nice work.

 

[Onty]

Nice work.

Merely a framework as yet, the list lacks detailed description.
Which is impossible without your help, fellow INTPs.

 

[Wittgenstein]

Plans/fantasies of being a demigod.

Hmmm...

Belief that you are a demigod.

There we go.

 

[Onty]

@Wittgenstein
Disagreed, I meant plans or fantasies. Like ones with stopping the time, coming back in past, having various forms of immortality, living in several instances at same time, having god-like intelligence etc.
Also "belief" comes in contradiction with p. 3.2

 

[pjoa09]

@Onty, blaming the ever changing teacher's requirements of writing an essay.

 

[sammael]

Re: INTP's features [needs development]

~ = intensity may vary from dominant to barely visible

This would apply to most of the points, depending on strengths of preferences and factors outside of MBTI such as experiences in life. I would also say many would vary depending on the situation, and how focused on the internal world the individual was.

 

[Onty]

@sammael, would be nice to see concrete examples, based either on life experience or good argumentation.

 

[sammael]

@sammael, would be nice to see concrete examples, based either on life experience or good argumentation.

Must I? Sigh

*Deletes moan about lacking of time and uncompleted blah blah blah*

Of course my good man.

The basic premise is that everyone has varying degrees of preference for each dichotomy, therefore there will be differences depending on said varying degrees, and strength/weakness of preference, for example, a strong introvert preference might have a (slightly) different attitude towards crowds than a weak introvert, and a strong thinking preference might display emotions slightly different than a weak thinking preference. Remember that we can and do use both sides of each scale, our Type is not exclusive, it merely signifies a preference.

Other external factors can also influence the way we behave, or to put it more accurately, the development and usage of each preference and non preference. An example of this would be having to do/learning attributes/characteristics that are regarded as typically judging (or sensing), until we become to do them automatically or from habit. A lot of the way we are in life is conditioned, whether that's self imposed or by others, and that can dramatically affect generalised characteristics or traits.

I agree with the list as a whole, I just find it odd to have only a few labelled as possible intensity differences, when it would seem logical according to the way MBTI works for variations to apply to all or most points.

The ones I disagree with:
1.7 Lack of emotions. As someone pointed out I think, lack of display of emotions would be more accurate.
2.1 Disguising lack of emotions. I'm unsure what that means. Should be just 'disguising emotions' I presume.
3.2 Lack of confidence. Completely disagree. I think confidence and esteem is influenced by many other things, and can not be put down to MBTI.
4.2 Plans/fantasies of being a demigod. Plans and fantasies yes, demigod just needs to be expanded.
4.4 Hard to give pure attention to one who asks for it (child). I wouldn't say this is hard, with children I find it easy, they are such delightful creatures. Hard to give pure attention to someone who bores me, yes.
4.1 Hitting someone for trying to give you a hug. I think that's an isolated example, but I understand where it's coming from. Perhaps something about an aversion to certain physical contact would be more appropriate.

Otherwise I think it's a pretty accurate list.

 

[Onty]

@sammael, thanks for your answer.
{field meant to be filled with large comment in nearest future}

 

[burtstanton]

Humor seems poorly on these boards.

 

[Onty]

@sammael, thanks for your answer.
{field meant to be filled with large comment in nearest future}

Somewhy forum doesn't allow ne to edit :\
Anyway, here we go. Well, there was no need for such a detailed explanation of MBTI basics. I know that every preference and not preference might be developed. In the list those definitions are appliable for undeveloped types.

1.7 Lack of emotions. Maybe it's only me, but from the very childhood I had problems figuring out what I do like and what I don't. Thus I have no favourite color, nor flower, nor actor, nor number. After gaining some experience it was possible do make the choice based on complicated computation, which has nothing to do with the concept of likeness. (I know what underdevelopped Fe means, I'm 60% certain)
2.1 Disguising lack of emotions. Means pretending to have emotions while you don't. Hameleon style . Rephrasing would be nice, though I have no idea how...
3.2 Lack of confidence. Means not trusting completely facts, your own conclusions, sayings of other people etc. As a result having massive verification mechanism.
"4.2 Plans/fantasies of being a demigod. Plans and fantasies yes, demigod just needs to be expanded." Expanded enough to be called a god? Or am I missing the point...
4.4 Hard to give pure attention to one who asks for it (child). Am agreed with you, that point is kinda out of place, way too subjective.
Still I'll put an example in here. Sometimes childs (not only childs, but it's easier to explain that way) don't care about what are you doing for them, but care bout the fact that you're giving attention. Thus they're not concentrating on the deal you spent time to organize, yet try their's hardest to make you busy.
"4.1 Hitting someone for trying to give you a hug. I think that's an isolated example," well, part 4 is meant to contain those isolated yet "OMG it happened to me" examples. "but I understand where it's coming from. Perhaps something about an aversion to certain physical contact would be more appropriate", 1.3. is already here.

 

[sammael]

Somewhy forum doesn't allow ne to edit :\
Anyway, here we go. Well, there was no need for such a detailed explanation of MBTI basics. I know that every preference and not preference might be developed. In the list those definitions are appliable for undeveloped types.

Many people miss these basics, I was just making sure we were on the same page. As I said, on understanding these basics it would seem self evident for the intensity of these 'features' to vary. In general yes, the definitions would tend to apply to one with a strong preference in each of the I, N, T and P dichotomies and a weak or not well developed E, S, F and J. But how often is that the case? And that doesn't take into account external factors. I think it would be misleading to give a list of almost absolute features without acknowledging there will be variances.

1.7 Lack of emotions. Maybe it's only me, but from the very childhood I had problems figuring out what I do like and what I don't. Thus I have no favourite color, nor flower, nor actor, nor number. After gaining some experience it was possible do make the choice based on complicated computation, which has nothing to do with the concept of likeness. (I know what underdevelopped Fe means, I'm 60% certain)

In all honesty I don't believe INTP's lack emotion, it just seems a lot easier for us to control or suppress that emotion; we are not easily influenced by it. And yes, we are much more likely to make decisions based on logic than feelings. But I never in any phase of my life would have said I lack emotion, and it would seem many others on intpf are the same.

2.1 Disguising lack of emotions. Means pretending to have emotions while you don't. Hameleon style . Rephrasing would be nice, though I have no idea how...

Ah, I see. I don't really see how this is an INTP characteristic however. Could you give examples? Preferably from the original thread.

3.2 Lack of confidence. Means not trusting completely facts, your own conclusions, sayings of other people etc. As a result having massive verification mechanism.

Ah, scepticism. Yes, I do agree that is a very INTP feature. Lack of confidence on it's own implies something to do with self esteem, which is why I was confused.

"4.2 Plans/fantasies of being a demigod. Plans and fantasies yes, demigod just needs to be expanded." Expanded enough to be called a god? Or am I missing the point...

My apologies, I wasn't very clear. Plans and fantasies being INTP yes, but I wouldn't limit that to super powers etc, although that is likely a common thread. I think the point here is the fantasies, not the particular type. I just think a more encompassing word/phrasing is needed.

"4.1 Hitting someone for trying to give you a hug. I think that's an isolated example," well, part 4 is meant to contain those isolated yet "OMG it happened to me" examples. "but I understand where it's coming from. Perhaps something about an aversion to certain physical contact would be more appropriate", 1.3. is already here.

What I mean by isolated is it may have happened to a few people(minority), but not the majority, therefore I think it should be omitted. I for example have never done that, I always understood the reason for hugs and so tolerated them in silence, although I realise that tolerance may be dependant on factors like how overbearing the individual's family is, and how much they respect the individuals own wants. I agree with the concept of not particularly wanting or needing physical contact or displays of affection, but yes, that was already mentioned.