Sexual maturation and weight

[EvilScientist Trainee]

There has been something that I've been noticing as I grow old. When I was a kid, I happened to be surrounded by girls. Many of them had a slim figure, many of them had overweight figures and some of them were obese. As time passed by, puberty have hit us like a meteor. The phase of awkwardness and sexual learning had begun.

During that phase, I had noticed that girls who were overweight during early teens soon developed feminine attributes, and became sexually attractive. Obese girls also developed feminine attributes at an early age, but they ended up being too chubby, which was not considered sexually attractive. The skinny girls, however, didn't developed clear feminine attributes until a certain age after the other two groups of girls. By the time their characteristics were developed, it was around their 17~18 years old.

So, today I was watching TV, and they talked about the effects in the sexual hormones by obesity. It reminded me of what I had noticed, and then found a couple of articles on the subject. It seems like my observations weren't wrong, according to this article.(Unfortunately, there's only the abstract available)

OBJECTIVES: This study examined the relation of age at menarche to overweight in US adolescent girls. METHODS: Effects of age at menarche and race/ethnicity on overweight were estimated via logistic regression, after adjustment for sociodemographic characteristics, in a sample of 6507 Hispanic, Black, White, and Asian American girls who participated in wave 2 of the National Longitudinal Study of Adolescent Health. RESULTS: Overweight prevalence rates were significantly higher in early maturing adolescents of all racial/ethnic groups but highest (57.5%) among early maturing Black girls. Early maturation nearly doubled the odds of being overweight (body mass index at or above the 85th percentile). CONCLUSIONS: Greater public health attention should be focused on the high prevalence of overweight, particularly among minority female adolescents.

There's also some relation between weight and the timing of the menstrual cycle, which can point somewhere regarding the relationship of the sexual hormones and body metabolism. However, it seems like the opposite happens to men, and boys who happen to be overweight have their sexual maturation occuring later.

Have anyone else noticed this trend? Should we make our children fatter while they're young to ensure the presence of sexually desired characteristics? How did you developed sexually? And what's the relation to your weight?

Spoiler

References:
Menstrual Cycles: Fatness as a Determinant of Minimum Weight for Height Necessary for Their Maintenance or Onset
Body mass index in children and adolescents according to age and pubertal stage
Maturational timing and overweight prevalence in US adolescent girls
Is Obesity Associated With Early Sexual Maturation? A Comparison of the Association in American Boys Versus Girls

 

[Bird]

It is a known fact that weight affects
sexual maturation, yes. (:

It's actually not necessarily even weight,
but fat mass.

 

[EvilScientist Trainee]

Aw, now I feel like captain obvious. I even checked my references before posting this thread. ):

Thanks for the heads up, though.

I don't know if it's just me, but I feel like I'm going to try make the perfect child. I want to be able to control every single aspect of my offspring. I know it won't be an easy task, but i'm learning every single thing to achieve that goal.

*Let's just hope that my child isn't the very opposite of me - But even then we could give negative feedback by eletric shocks, I guess.*

 

[Cognisant]

Pre-adolescence I was very thin, cue puberty and I became overweight although not quite obese, now I’m nearing the end of my growth period and I’m starting to loose weight, even gaining muscle mass/tone.

I think it has to do with a changing lifestyle more than anything, I was a very active child, a reclusive/depressed teenager, and now I’m taking responsibility for myself and my body, hormones may have played a part, but not directly.

It may be different for women, I dunno.

Edit:

I don't know if it's just me, but I feel like I'm going to try make the perfect child.

The surest way to fuck'em up.

 

[Kuu]

I want to be able to control every single aspect of my offspring.

Please do not breed.

 

[Vrecknidj]

Read Mother Nature.

Dave

 

[SkyWalker]

too skinny means little food , so probably not enough nutrients, thats why you mature/grow slower
fat means a lot of food, so probably enough nutrients, thats why they mature/grow faster

just give your kids plenty of the right nutrients....WITHOUT MAKING THEM FAT

duh!

 

[Dimensional Transition]

I want to be able to control every single aspect of my offspring.

LET THE DISCUSSION BEGIN

I've always had a normal weight. Not skinny, not overweight. At the moment maybe some lack of muscle because I'm quite reclusive. My family's weight suggests that around my 30s I will suddenly start becoming obese though ):
I had hair on my arms at a really young age, I think I was 10 when I already had really blonde hairy arms. For the rest I developed pretty normally. Had to really shave at the end of 14 I think...

But yeah, I've noticed skinny girls barely become sexually attractive. Overweight girls usually do, and obese girls just stay kind of chubby.

 

[EvilScientist Trainee]

Please do not breed.

It looks like it won't happen anytime soon.

About the controlling part: I'm not that controlling. I'm just insecure.

 

[Deleted member 1424]

It looks like it won't happen anytime soon.

About the controlling part: I'm not that controlling. I'm just insecure.

Somehow that makes it even worse.......

 

[Fukyo]

But yeah, I've noticed skinny girls barely become sexually attractive. Overweight girls usually do, and obese girls just stay kind of chubby.

Cause of much angst during puberty.

 

[Dimensional Transition]

Cause of much angst during puberty.

Eh?
The angst is caused by the results of sexual maturation, the angst isn't influencing the way boobs grow. Or am I missing something here.

 

[Bird]

Eh?
The angst is caused by the results of sexual maturation, the angst isn't influencing the way boobs grow. Or am I missing something here.

I believe instead of reading "attractive" OP
meant active and just made a typo.

I believe Fukyo was then going onto say
that angsty girls, the ones who had gone
through puberty are more likely to become
sexually active due to the angst that comes
with sexual maturation. They look to sex
as a way to deal with the angst, and the
hornyness their bodies are now undergoing.


I think education has a large part to do
with this. From a young age female masturbation
is taught to girls as something that is taboo
so instead of indulging in themselves they
go out and find someone to fuck them rather
than touch themselves or whatever. So whereas
males stay in bed and take care of themselves
females look to others. And because females
that have gone through puberty experience
the hormonal releases to make one really want
to have sex and the taboo ideals that are
placed on females and their sex life; it creates
a lot of angst in and of itself.

 

[Fukyo]

Eh?
The angst is caused by the results of sexual maturation, the angst isn't influencing the way boobs grow. Or am I missing something here.

You didn't read the link, did you?

Breast growth is a part of female sexual maturation, and skinny girls will usually develop them later and still lag behind in size, compared to larger girls.

The angst part is referring to being insecure due to flat-chestedness.

I believe instead of reading "attractive" OP
meant active and just made a typo.

I believe Fukyo was then going onto say
that angsty girls, the ones who had gone
through puberty are more likely to become
sexually active due to the angst that comes
with sexual maturation. They look to sex
as a way to deal with the angst, and the
hornyness their bodies are now undergoing.


I think education has a large part to do
with this. From a young age female masturbation
is taught to girls as something that is taboo
so instead of indulging in themselves they
go out and find someone to fuck them rather
than touch themselves or whatever. So whereas
males stay in bed and take care of themselves
females look to others. And because females
that have gone through puberty experience
the hormonal releases to make one really want
to have sex and the taboo ideals that are
placed on females and their sex life; it creates
a lot of angst in and of itself.

Your writing style is not very conductive to jokes.

I'm still not sure if that was a joke...

 

[crippli]

I don't think it's necessary to make the children fatter and more sexually attractive. You know. Human population growth is a problem. Not sure we want to add to this.

 

[Fukyo]

too skinny means little food , so probably not enough nutrients, thats why you mature/grow slower
fat means a lot of food, so probably enough nutrients, thats why they mature/grow faster

just give your kids plenty of the right nutrients....WITHOUT MAKING THEM FAT

duh!

Early maturation is not exactly a good thing.

 

[Dimensional Transition]

You didn't read the link, did you?

Breast growth is a part of female sexual maturation, and skinny girls will usually develop them later and still lag behind in size, compared to larger girls.

The angst part is referring to being insecure due to flat-chestedness.



Your writing style is not very conductive to jokes.

I'm still not sure if that was a joke...

I did read the link, I guess I just read it too quickly. But alright then.

 

[onthewindowstand]

Correct me if I'm wrong but early maturation is more common among women yes? I ask because I'm a man who started masterbating and watching porn at age 11. I certainly dont remember girls being as far along in puberty yet everyone tells me that women are supposed to sexually mature earlier. Thoughts?

 

[onthewindowstand]

I believe instead of reading "attractive" OP
meant active and just made a typo.

I believe Fukyo was then going onto say
that angsty girls, the ones who had gone
through puberty are more likely to become
sexually active due to the angst that comes
with sexual maturation. They look to sex
as a way to deal with the angst, and the
hornyness their bodies are now undergoing.


I think education has a large part to do
with this. From a young age female masturbation
is taught to girls as something that is taboo
so instead of indulging in themselves they
go out and find someone to fuck them rather
than touch themselves or whatever. So whereas
males stay in bed and take care of themselves
females look to others. And because females
that have gone through puberty experience
the hormonal releases to make one really want
to have sex and the taboo ideals that are
placed on females and their sex life; it creates
a lot of angst in and of itself.

This is why emo girls are the best for sexual encounters. That and sex deprived MILFs

 

[nyaneko]

This is why emo girls are the best for sexual encounters. That and sex deprived MILFs

Clearly speaking from personal experience.



You're pretty much saying.

Skinny girls are hard to get boobs.
Normal girls can gain boobs.
Fat girls can't lose weight.


Your body naturally has a system of dispersing the fat around your body. How much fat is stored in your body and where can be affected by the amount of exercise and your genetics (metabolism) and eating habits.

 

[onthewindowstand]

Clearly speaking from personal experience.



You're pretty much saying.

Skinny girls are hard to get boobs.
Normal girls can gain boobs.
Fat girls can't lose weight.


Your body naturally has a system of dispersing the fat around your body. How much fat is stored in your body and where can be affected by the amount of exercise and your genetics (metabolism) and eating habits.

I guess that depends on if we are using the same definitions.

 

[Dimensional Transition]

Correct me if I'm wrong but early maturation is more common among women yes? I ask because I'm a man who started masterbating and watching porn at age 11. I certainly dont remember girls being as far along in puberty yet everyone tells me that women are supposed to sexually mature earlier. Thoughts?

Same. Except I didn't watch porn yet. I still don't do often because porn just feels nasty, Imagination/still images are more preferable haha. I think men start maturing earlier than women in sexual behaviour, but for the rest women start earlier in maturing(thought process, body etc although I'm even doubtful about this. I think it just kind of starts at the same time for both sexes. The only difference I notice is that girls tend to be a little taller in 6th grade or so, and then in the later years the guys grow taller.)

 

[Bird]

Clearly speaking from personal experience.



You're pretty much saying.

Skinny girls are hard to get boobs.
Normal girls can gain boobs.
Fat girls can't lose weight.


Your body naturally has a system of dispersing the fat around your body. How much fat is stored in your body and where can be affected by the amount of exercise and your genetics (metabolism) and eating habits.

What are you getting at?

 

[nyaneko]

Same. Except I didn't watch porn yet. I still don't do often because porn just feels nasty, Imagination/still images are more preferable haha. I think men start maturing earlier than women in sexual behaviour, but for the rest women start earlier in maturing(thought process, body etc although I'm even doubtful about this. I think it just kind of starts at the same time for both sexes. The only difference I notice is that girls tend to be a little taller in 6th grade or so, and then in the later years the guys grow taller.)

I think I am right.

Females start physical puberty earlier. eg. boobs, taller etc.
Males are dirty by nature. Mentally if they see porn they will become addicted to it after a certain age depends when you first see it. Males do develop physically later.

mental sexual development and physical development are unrelated things. However, during the state of puberty certain chemicals in your brain eg. hormones may possibly affect your sex drive etc. One thing i dont know is... when do girls start masturbating?????????



I'm sorry if I offended anyone. But that's pretty much the relationship between initial body type, puberty and attractiveness.

Puberty is a critical period for the human body because it majorly changes your physical attributes in a relatively quick time.

 

[onthewindowstand]

I think I am right.

Females start physical puberty earlier. eg. boobs, taller etc.
Males are dirty by nature. Mentally if they see porn they will become addicted to it after a certain age depends when you first see it. Males do develop physically later.

mental sexual development and physical development are unrelated things. However, during the state of puberty certain chemicals in your brain eg. hormones may possibly affect your sex drive etc. One thing i dont know is... when do girls start masturbating?????????



I'm sorry if I offended anyone. But that's pretty much the relationship between initial body type, puberty and attractiveness.

Puberty is a critical period for the human body because it majorly changes your physical attributes in a relatively quick time.

lol. You think people get addicted to porn.

 

[Dimensional Transition]

lol. You think people get addicted to porn.

It becomes a habit? Not necessarily an addiction.

 

[nyaneko]

It becomes a habit? Not necessarily an addiction.

but I sure made it sound that way "i started marijiana when i was 11."

well.. two cases that i know of (speaking generally) when a guy comes in contact with porn or realises that jacking off feels good. they either 1. continue this habit regularly 2. maybe they dislike porn or dont reckon jacking off feel good and dont jack off regularly...

 

[onthewindowstand]

but I sure made it sound that way "i started marijiana when i was 11."

well.. two cases that i know of (speaking generally) when a guy comes in contact with porn or realises that jacking off feels good. they either 1. continue this habit regularly 2. maybe they dislike porn or dont reckon jacking off feel good and dont jack off regularly...

What does any of this have to do with marijuana? And now you are changing your original statement.

 

[nyaneko]

What does any of this have to do with marijuana? And now you are changing your original statement.

It was a joke.

What was my original statement?

 

[onthewindowstand]

Either you changed your original statement or you equivicate doing something pleseant and being addicted.

 

[EvilScientist Trainee]

I don't know if we're talking about the same kind of maturation here.

Sexual maturation, as i'm using, is hormonal maturation - as in the age where the girls have their menarche, initiating their menstrual cycle and secondary sexual characteristics development, and boys start developing their first bits of beard and have their Penises starting to grow in length and girth due to hormonal effect.

And people do not get addicted to porn, but to masturbation instead. The orgasm is able to liberate dopamines in the reward system of the brain, as a way to say: Sex is good for you. But as masturbation happens to be an orgasm without actual intercourse - and let's agree that jacking off for a teenager is far easier than convincing a girl to have sex with you - masturbation becomes an compulsory activity.