Sexual Drives

[EyeSeeCold]

Foreword:
While making this thread I realized the groups are the same as Socionic's romance styles of Aggressor, Caregiver, Victim and Infantile. Any similarities were unintentional.


I found a correlation between erotic drive and personality type. In other words the more dominant the sensing function is (regardless of I or E) the more sexually driven you are.


1st tier: ESTP, ISTJ, ISFJ, ESFP
2nd tier: ISTP, ISFP, ESTJ, ESFJ
3rd tier: INFP, INTP, ENFJ, ENTJ
4th tier: INFJ, INTJ, ENFP, ENTP

The first tier seems to be promiscuous, freaky, wild and in general, sexually confidant. They have a very high sex drive.

The second tier seems to approach sex from a more sensual side. They either see sex as an expression of love or tend to playfully coax their partners into sex. There is a moderate sex drive.

The third tier finds it somewhat difficult to approach sex casually, however when engaged can perform sex adequately. There is a low sex drive.

The fourth tier has much trouble or avoids the notion of sex altogether. Sex may be seen as a spiritual expression because it is either held in high esteem or is very unattainable. There is a very low sex drive.

Thoughts?

 

[₲uardian]

My thoughts are there's a lot more to sex than Sensing

 

[EyeSeeCold]

The extroversion or introversion of the Sensing function is disregarded in my theory.
I agree there's a lot more to the actual physical act of sex, but my basic assertion is that sexual drive is determined by the rank of Si/Se. Gender brings up difficulties, but still for the most part the types show correlating sex drive.

 

[AlisaD]

Where did this come from?
And, more importantly, why?

 

[SpaceYeti]

... I find that my sex drive isn't quite the same as many of the people around me, but it's also true that my fellow soldiers tend to be slightly younger and more hormone driven than I am. They're also not as picky about whom they have sex with, or what that person wants as it relates to what you want. Most people just... have sex, and that's it. They just... maybe a bit of oral and then vaginal, then climax. It's... masturbating with a partner. Just... go until you're done.

It doesn't seem like a very powerful sex drive if what you desire is just to cum while someone's with you. Granted, I don't know what INTPs tend to desire. All I know is I belong to a minority when it comes to sex, and that my sex drive is just as if not more active than most people's... I'm simply much pickier.

 

[onthewindowstand]

My sex drive is extremely high, granted I am 19 years old. Also look at a lot of porn and like sex. LOL

 

[EyeSeeCold]

Where did this come from?
And, more importantly, why?

Insight!
Why? I was curious!

By sex drive I don't mean how many times you beat off to porn or the types of fetishes you have. Sex drive as in confidence, approaching potential mates with confidence in your sexuality, putting yourself out there on the market with conviction that someone is going to accept your offer.

 

[echoplex]

Regarding Se/Si inferior types being less inclined to engage in 'sensing activities': I'd consider the concept of 'revenge of the inferior', which suggests how ignoring one's inferior function -- by suppressing it with the dominant function -- can cause an outburst of inferior-related activity, which can often be impulsive, perhaps even 'wild' or 'freaky', as you attribute to sensing-dominant types. Perhaps the confidence you mention wouldn't typically be present, but let's also remember that some people prefer to actively improve their inferior function. It makes sense really: 1. Identify a weakness; 2. Set out to eliminate weakness; 3. Rocky-esque montage; 4. Improved sense of overall confidence (profit!).

I'd say drive itself is mostly physical anyway, although there are things like preoccupation, obsession, aversion, routine, etc. which are all psychological and may be effected somewhat by type.

On second thought, I may be splitting hairs a bit as 'drive' can mean different things I suppose. I usually define it as a physical thing.

 

[EyeSeeCold]

Regarding Se/Si inferior types being less inclined to engage in 'sensing activities': I'd consider the concept of 'revenge of the inferior', which suggests how ignoring one's inferior function -- by suppressing it with the dominant function -- can cause an outburst of inferior-related activity, which can often be impulsive, perhaps even 'wild' or 'freaky', as you attribute to sensing-dominant types. Perhaps the confidence you mention wouldn't typically be present, but let's also remember that some people prefer to actively improve their inferior function. It makes sense really: 1. Identify a weakness; 2. Set out to eliminate weakness; 3. Rocky-esque montage; 4. Improved sense of overall confidence (profit!).

Lol. I agree with you on the suppression of sensing. It happens with inferior Fe, people who bottle up their emotions eventually explode. So I guess inferior Se/Si, or people who are sexually repressed could wind up engaging in a violent sexual situation. So yeah all tiers could be freaky on the inside, but it's likely more apparent in dominant Sensors(sp?).

I'm not sure how one would improve their sensing externally. Though I do know Si could be improved by experimenting with different music, clothes, and art styles. Maybe do some professional photography. Oh and definitely get into shape! The ultimate goal of Si is to enjoy your body and your internal sensations.

 

[IndigoSensor]

Haha, we have had a few threads on sex drive on the INFJ forums, and there is usually a resounding consensus that we have really high sex drives. Honestly, I don't think there is too much of a corralation between type and sex drive.

 

[Hammett]

1. Are these socionics types or MBTI types?

2.
1st tier: ISTJ, ISFJ o-O
2nd tier: ESTJ, ESFJ O-o
3rd tier: INTP o-O
4th tier: ENFP, ENTP O-O



3. WTF? ENxP is 4th tier? After INTP? And ISxJs are "promiscuous, freaky, wild and in general, sexually confidant. They have a very high sex drive"?


Basing sex drive on Se/Si ranking is flawed, there are other things to consider if you want to theorise which types are most free with their sexuality, I can assure you ENxPs are up there closer to ESxPs.

 

[EyeSeeCold]

Haha, we have had a few threads on sex drive on the INFJ forums, and there is usually a resounding consensus that we have really high sex drives. Honestly, I don't think there is too much of a corralation between type and sex drive.

I had an INFJ friend that was really freaky haha, she was into porn and everything. But her sexual confidence was really low.

1. Are these socionics types or MBTI types?

2.
1st tier: ISTJ, ISFJ o-O
2nd tier: ESTJ, ESFJ O-o
3rd tier: INTP o-O
4th tier: ENFP, ENTP O-O



3. WTF? ENxP is 4th tier? After INTP? And ISxJs are "promiscuous, freaky, wild and in general, sexually confidant. They have a very high sex drive"?


Basing sex drive on Se/Si ranking is flawed, there are other things to consider if you want to theorise which types are most free with their sexuality, I can assure you ENxPs are up there closer to ESxPs.

1.) MBTI.

2.) ?

3.) ISFJs are confident as hell. The terms don't apply all the time to every type and both genders, but ISFJs definitely have a high sex drive.

4.) Yea I'm still thinking about ENFPs, especially females. But consider this: Do ENFPs actively seek a partner with confidence or do they love just being social? There's a difference.

 

[Hammett]

3.) ISFJs are confident as hell. The terms don't apply all the time to every type and both genders, but ISFJs definitely have a high sex drive.

ISFJs are conservative and traditional, not freaky and promiscuous. Confident is about the last word I'd use to describe them.

"They seek monogamous, lifelong commitments, and can be depended upon to be faithful and loyal to their mates once they have made a commitment"

"Sexually, the ISFJ sees intimacy as a tangible way of strengthening their relationship bonds. They also see as something of a duty, and are likely to be more interested in serving their partner than in their own personal satisfaction"

"In general, the ISFJ is usually a traditional, family-minded individual who places the comfort of their mates and families as their first priority in life"

Source. Not my favourite resource for type information but relevant. And ISTJs:

"They will expect sex on a relatively scheduled basis, and are likely to honor traditions regarding gender role-playing. Male ISTJs will assert their perspective on their partners, while female ISTJs will tend to follow along with what their male counterparts want (although they will be uncomfortable with anything extremely out of the traditional norm)"

4.) Yea I'm still thinking about ENFPs, especially females. But consider this: Do ENFPs actively seek a partner with confidence or do they love just being social? There's a difference.

If your criteria is "promiscuous, freaky, wild and in general, sexually confidant. They have a very high sex drive" then what does it have to do with actively seeking a partner, and if that is also a component then how can you claim ISxJs up there?

ExxP types have confidence.

"Sexually, the ENTP is enthusiastic and interested in positive, constant growth for both partners. They're likely to be very attentive, involved, and questioning. They enjoy spontaneity rather than fixed schedules, and fully embrace new ideas and adventures. They're likely to approach intimacy as more of a physical act which conveys affection, rather than as an opportunity to explicitly express affection"

"Sexually, The ENFP is creative, perfectionistic, playful and affectionate. Their rich fantasy world makes them fun and creative lovers, who usually have new ideas up their sleeves. They whole-heartedly embrace the opportunity for closeness with their mates, believing sexual intimacy to be a positive, fun way to express how much you love each other"

Summary: ISxJs serious, traditional see sex as a duty, ENxPs playful, spontaneous, up for adventure.

 

[EyeSeeCold]

I think I should have omitted the descriptions. Anyway, it's obvious this theory needs more work. Back to the drawing board.

 

[AlisaD]

I think I should have omitted the descriptions. Anyway, it's obvious this theory needs more work. Back to the drawing board.

I can think of a few better places for research on this topic

 

[Philosophyking87]

My thoughts are there's a lot more to sex than Sensing

This. I don't really think ENTP's either "aren't comfortable with sex," or "see it as spiritual activity." Based on ENTP's I know (including my younger brother), I think ENTP's tend to be very sexual people who see it as a sport-like activity. They are willing to explore sexuality and try different things experimentally. So your theory doesn't seem to hold up.

 

[typus]

1. Identify a weakness; 2. Set out to eliminate weakness; 3. Rocky-esque montage; 4. Improved sense of overall confidence (profit!).

Is it just me or would step 3 be extremely hilarious when applied to this? (Well, the entire narrative would be hilarious, but especially step 3.)

 

[snafupants]

Is it just me or would step 3 be extremely hilarious when applied to this? (Well, the entire narrative would be hilarious, but especially step 3.)

indeed, rocky beats his meat in the film to boot.