Dentan
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I like to analyze things a lot (probably too much, but thats my personality) so:
I sometimes dwell too much in the past and future/ care too much/ think about things too much
which sometimes leads to reading things too much and seeing stuff thats not there
I think too much about alternate possibilities and sometimes second guess myself
-> some people might view this as me being not confident but to me its just being thorough and correct about things (which I'm big on)
-> some people view that I'm always worried cuz I tend to explain myself alot, but to me its the need for clarity, I don't like when what I said is ambiguous and can be taken the wrong way
I have an addicting personality and tend to over indulge myself in whatever I'm in:
I feel I rather go overboard than underboard on things
Probably due to the fact that I don't like the feeling that I'm not making the most out of life
Which leads me to pushing myself harder on whatever I'm doing
And leads to me being anal/ a perfectionist about some stuff
I sorta take things to the extreme, whether it be hobbies, jokes, shooting the shit, etc.
My security is based off the feeling that I can handle whatever comes up against me:
Which is based on the idea that I have everything (well, most stuff) figured out
Which leads to me being viewed as cocky sometimes
My tendency to correct is not an act of arrogance, but a need for clarity
I don't usually play many games with people:
I really can't stand disagreeable people and tend to have problems dealing with them
I like the theory "Many games are played most intensely by disturbed people; generally speaking, the more disturbed they are, the harder they play."
When I say game I mean Mind games: "passive aggressive behavior used specifically to demoralize or empower the thinking subject, often making the aggressor look superior."
I get pretty disturbed when people act off there stronger emotions (anger, jealousy, depression):
(people tend to get disturbed at things which are present in themselves)
hence I'm not always the best at controlling my stronger emotions...
I extremely dislike giving up power, as in:
Being ordered around without reason/ in an untactful manner
Having someone play around with me or being one up on me (ex/ winning an argument)
Letting others impose their personal structure of the world and how things should be on me
Might be because I can be pretty stubborn in things I feel I have a grip on
Might be because I'm overly sensitive to parental influences
Might just be because I'm the first born and feel the need to have a strong image
Thanks to this quality of mine I:
Don't respond to well to personal criticism - especially if its done in a group setting/multiple people tell me the same thing or I feel the person is not being empathetic/tactful enough or just trying to give me shit/put me down
Don't respond to well to obvious advice - I tend to view it insulting when people tell me stuff thats downright obvious even If they're just trying to help
^That being said, I still take criticism and advice into consideration, just don't always show it
^If I blow you off its either because I feel your wrong and don't feel like arguing (because it would be moot) or realize your right and don't want to admit it
I stand up for myself too often, which comes across as me stepping on peoples toes/being an ass (I'm working on the whole picking your battles concept now though)
Probably wouldn't make the best leader since I generally don't like controlling people due to the fact that I dislike being controlled myself
^update: I'm able to take control of a situation if necessary, just as long as I have a good grasp of whats going on
I've become comfortable enough with myself to speak my mind, which sometimes is untactful or inappropriate:
Before my inhibitions held my doucheyness back, now I'm having to have to think more about how my statements will come off
I can be honest to the point of being blunt, which sometimes conflicts with the whole 'social niceties' concept
That being said, sometimes I feel unauthentic when I act/talk in a way to go with the flow/not rock the boat
I consider myself a pretty truthful person, but in certain situations I can rationalize lying:
People that are close-minded (not willing to think objectively and take in others opinions) I'm comfortable with lying to
Not because I felt that I knew better than them, just because my life experiences and theirs don’t match up, our paths in life are different
That being said, I've learned that if you get caught in this type of lie, even though you had good intentions, it discredits you and your opinion.
So generally the best option is just to tell the truth and let close minded people deal with it.
Even though I can be extroverted I'm still highly introverted and very independent (sorta view dependency as a weakness):
I can come off as being antisocial / distant/ in my own world/ head in the clouds (I'm more asocial and easily distracted by stimuli)
I need to connect with more people/ I only open up to people I feel can mostly understand me (people with a similar personalities or paths)
Might be due to the fact that sometimes I slip up and say something I wasn't supposed to
And If I can make mistakes like that, other people are going to also, I rather keep sensitive stuff to myself
Might just be because everybody plays a game, people (that care about life) usually need to have the feeling that there better than others in some way.
Might be because even though I try to look for the good in people, I can usually see the weaknesses in people (unless they hide it good)
And the paradox can disturb me greatly
I'm a pretty low key individual but If I'm getting attention I want to be the center of it:
I probably come off a an attention whore at times
And the attention doesn't necessarily have to be positive (I actually say stuff at times just to try to get a reaction from people)
I like the sound of my voice when I'm talking about something I feel I've mastered/wrapped my head around
Dumbazz
I have my _fare share_ of blond moments
I sometimes suck under pressure/ in the clutch when it happens suddenly (cuz I'm not in the mindset to handle it)
I coin pretty ridiculous terms to describe things (though sometimes I do it to add humor to lighten serious topics)
I sometimes don't realize how what I do/say comes off to other people (to be fair though, I also like to be myself, if people don't feel me that's more there problem than mine)
Humor:
My humor consists of dryness, wit and sarcasm
While I can be very serious at times, when I'm in a good mood life's just a fun game
So I sometimes say stuff that's totally left field, partially just to get a reaction from it
thing is unless you know/get me you might get the wrong idea
especially when I use humor to lighten up a serious topic
people might think I'm trying to be funny or am being completely serious (from the deadpan)
but to me its just trying to makie things less tense for everyone
When sleep deprived or stressed out I lose my empathy and can easily turn into a pretty antisocial douchebag:
I distant myself from everyone/ alienate people
I stop caring about other people's feelings and intentions
I get really defensive and view nonpersonal attacks as personal attacks
Why people dislike me (got some other INTP's perspective on this to help explain it):
I wouldn't go as far as saying that I'm hated.
People just don't understand me, and often leave me alone.
I often wish not to partake in group activities and seem alarmingly impractical.
This lack of care in the things that most of society places value in could be seen as jeopardizing to the overall security of society.
Odd people are less accepted in society, for it is not easy to trust an individual when you have not encountered their type previously. They will be an enigma, thus unknown and unpredictable.
Sometimes this misunderstanding alienates me, sometimes it turns me into a novelty.
It's all good though, I know myself.
Random:
I have to realize that I'm not necessarily the the center of attention (I interrupt/domineer conversations at times)
I sometimes don't take people's feelings into account
When friends of mine are in a bad mood (and I don't have feel its because they're trying to play me, I feel a persons not doing this to play me: I'm sometimes pretty sensitive to when people are feeling conflicted,
when a bunch of people around me are down it can be easy for there moods to affect me
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I like to live in a neat and structured environment and can be pretty anal about it at times
I sometimes project myself onto other people or feel I can analyze all their actions
I'm not always the best at recognizing faces, remembering names and picking up certain social cues (that being said I wish people would just speak their minds more often) but I've been getting better at it...
I have many tastes, but one interesting one is my melancholic/dark side. It can easily see myself being the guy playing a haunting piece on the piano (which i play by the way)
I'd like to consider myself very autonomous, curious, detached, inquisitive, logical, original, skeptical, and theoretical.
I like sharing my experiences and media with others, its nice to make others feel good or spark their interests, but I'm no longer a people pleaser that lets people walk over me
I compensate with rationalization
Two recent life lessons I've had to reflect on a lot recently: everything you do can be used against you not only by assholes and bitches but also by your friends
and: people that don't accept me (try to) play me off
I see myself mellowing out sometime in the future (rather mellow out than end up getting burned out) but for now I'm gonna enjoy my youth
If you just see me around I might come across as a douchebag (especially if you have a high level of social rejection sensitivity or I fuckup (which i do at times)) but if we happen to spend enough time together and you get to know me (when I'm not stressed out) you'll see that my intentions are pure.
Some stuff I'm trying to work on, some stuff I'm comfortable with, some stuff you might feel is BS (whatever)
I sometimes dwell too much in the past and future/ care too much/ think about things too much
which sometimes leads to reading things too much and seeing stuff thats not there
I think too much about alternate possibilities and sometimes second guess myself
-> some people might view this as me being not confident but to me its just being thorough and correct about things (which I'm big on)
-> some people view that I'm always worried cuz I tend to explain myself alot, but to me its the need for clarity, I don't like when what I said is ambiguous and can be taken the wrong way
I have an addicting personality and tend to over indulge myself in whatever I'm in:
I feel I rather go overboard than underboard on things
Probably due to the fact that I don't like the feeling that I'm not making the most out of life
Which leads me to pushing myself harder on whatever I'm doing
And leads to me being anal/ a perfectionist about some stuff
I sorta take things to the extreme, whether it be hobbies, jokes, shooting the shit, etc.
My security is based off the feeling that I can handle whatever comes up against me:
Which is based on the idea that I have everything (well, most stuff) figured out
Which leads to me being viewed as cocky sometimes
My tendency to correct is not an act of arrogance, but a need for clarity
I don't usually play many games with people:
I really can't stand disagreeable people and tend to have problems dealing with them
I like the theory "Many games are played most intensely by disturbed people; generally speaking, the more disturbed they are, the harder they play."
When I say game I mean Mind games: "passive aggressive behavior used specifically to demoralize or empower the thinking subject, often making the aggressor look superior."
I get pretty disturbed when people act off there stronger emotions (anger, jealousy, depression):
(people tend to get disturbed at things which are present in themselves)
hence I'm not always the best at controlling my stronger emotions...
I extremely dislike giving up power, as in:
Being ordered around without reason/ in an untactful manner
Having someone play around with me or being one up on me (ex/ winning an argument)
Letting others impose their personal structure of the world and how things should be on me
Might be because I can be pretty stubborn in things I feel I have a grip on
Might be because I'm overly sensitive to parental influences
Might just be because I'm the first born and feel the need to have a strong image
Thanks to this quality of mine I:
Don't respond to well to personal criticism - especially if its done in a group setting/multiple people tell me the same thing or I feel the person is not being empathetic/tactful enough or just trying to give me shit/put me down
Don't respond to well to obvious advice - I tend to view it insulting when people tell me stuff thats downright obvious even If they're just trying to help
^That being said, I still take criticism and advice into consideration, just don't always show it
^If I blow you off its either because I feel your wrong and don't feel like arguing (because it would be moot) or realize your right and don't want to admit it
I stand up for myself too often, which comes across as me stepping on peoples toes/being an ass (I'm working on the whole picking your battles concept now though)
Probably wouldn't make the best leader since I generally don't like controlling people due to the fact that I dislike being controlled myself
^update: I'm able to take control of a situation if necessary, just as long as I have a good grasp of whats going on
I've become comfortable enough with myself to speak my mind, which sometimes is untactful or inappropriate:
Before my inhibitions held my doucheyness back, now I'm having to have to think more about how my statements will come off
I can be honest to the point of being blunt, which sometimes conflicts with the whole 'social niceties' concept
That being said, sometimes I feel unauthentic when I act/talk in a way to go with the flow/not rock the boat
I consider myself a pretty truthful person, but in certain situations I can rationalize lying:
People that are close-minded (not willing to think objectively and take in others opinions) I'm comfortable with lying to
Not because I felt that I knew better than them, just because my life experiences and theirs don’t match up, our paths in life are different
That being said, I've learned that if you get caught in this type of lie, even though you had good intentions, it discredits you and your opinion.
So generally the best option is just to tell the truth and let close minded people deal with it.
Even though I can be extroverted I'm still highly introverted and very independent (sorta view dependency as a weakness):
I can come off as being antisocial / distant/ in my own world/ head in the clouds (I'm more asocial and easily distracted by stimuli)
I need to connect with more people/ I only open up to people I feel can mostly understand me (people with a similar personalities or paths)
Might be due to the fact that sometimes I slip up and say something I wasn't supposed to
And If I can make mistakes like that, other people are going to also, I rather keep sensitive stuff to myself
Might just be because everybody plays a game, people (that care about life) usually need to have the feeling that there better than others in some way.
Might be because even though I try to look for the good in people, I can usually see the weaknesses in people (unless they hide it good)
And the paradox can disturb me greatly
I'm a pretty low key individual but If I'm getting attention I want to be the center of it:
I probably come off a an attention whore at times
And the attention doesn't necessarily have to be positive (I actually say stuff at times just to try to get a reaction from people)
I like the sound of my voice when I'm talking about something I feel I've mastered/wrapped my head around
Dumbazz
I have my _fare share_ of blond moments
I sometimes suck under pressure/ in the clutch when it happens suddenly (cuz I'm not in the mindset to handle it)
I coin pretty ridiculous terms to describe things (though sometimes I do it to add humor to lighten serious topics)
I sometimes don't realize how what I do/say comes off to other people (to be fair though, I also like to be myself, if people don't feel me that's more there problem than mine)
Humor:
My humor consists of dryness, wit and sarcasm
While I can be very serious at times, when I'm in a good mood life's just a fun game
So I sometimes say stuff that's totally left field, partially just to get a reaction from it
thing is unless you know/get me you might get the wrong idea
especially when I use humor to lighten up a serious topic
people might think I'm trying to be funny or am being completely serious (from the deadpan)
but to me its just trying to makie things less tense for everyone
When sleep deprived or stressed out I lose my empathy and can easily turn into a pretty antisocial douchebag:
I distant myself from everyone/ alienate people
I stop caring about other people's feelings and intentions
I get really defensive and view nonpersonal attacks as personal attacks
Why people dislike me (got some other INTP's perspective on this to help explain it):
I wouldn't go as far as saying that I'm hated.
People just don't understand me, and often leave me alone.
I often wish not to partake in group activities and seem alarmingly impractical.
This lack of care in the things that most of society places value in could be seen as jeopardizing to the overall security of society.
Odd people are less accepted in society, for it is not easy to trust an individual when you have not encountered their type previously. They will be an enigma, thus unknown and unpredictable.
Sometimes this misunderstanding alienates me, sometimes it turns me into a novelty.
It's all good though, I know myself.
Random:
I have to realize that I'm not necessarily the the center of attention (I interrupt/domineer conversations at times)
I sometimes don't take people's feelings into account
When friends of mine are in a bad mood (and I don't have feel its because they're trying to play me, I feel a persons not doing this to play me: I'm sometimes pretty sensitive to when people are feeling conflicted,
when a bunch of people around me are down it can be easy for there moods to affect me
'
I like to live in a neat and structured environment and can be pretty anal about it at times
I sometimes project myself onto other people or feel I can analyze all their actions
I'm not always the best at recognizing faces, remembering names and picking up certain social cues (that being said I wish people would just speak their minds more often) but I've been getting better at it...
I have many tastes, but one interesting one is my melancholic/dark side. It can easily see myself being the guy playing a haunting piece on the piano (which i play by the way)
I'd like to consider myself very autonomous, curious, detached, inquisitive, logical, original, skeptical, and theoretical.
I like sharing my experiences and media with others, its nice to make others feel good or spark their interests, but I'm no longer a people pleaser that lets people walk over me
I compensate with rationalization
Two recent life lessons I've had to reflect on a lot recently: everything you do can be used against you not only by assholes and bitches but also by your friends
and: people that don't accept me (try to) play me off
I see myself mellowing out sometime in the future (rather mellow out than end up getting burned out) but for now I'm gonna enjoy my youth
If you just see me around I might come across as a douchebag (especially if you have a high level of social rejection sensitivity or I fuckup (which i do at times)) but if we happen to spend enough time together and you get to know me (when I'm not stressed out) you'll see that my intentions are pure.
Some stuff I'm trying to work on, some stuff I'm comfortable with, some stuff you might feel is BS (whatever)
This is why people feel you phony and pushy. You come around, start posting long threads about you, you, and you. Seriously, I counted upwards of 110. And that was only "I", not "me" and other variations...
It sounds like you are just trying too hard to be liked by everyone. Which is apparently not working all that well. Quite ironic for someone who's supposedly all that concerned with image.