RyZen R5 review.

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https://youtu.be/HO20mmQjY40

 

[Jennywocky]

it pisses me off.

I haven't bought a new computer for years, and my old system died, so I finally ordered a new system with an i7 7700K about ten days ago, and then last week suddenly this gets big splashy news -- a cheaper chip by AMD that benchmarks better than the one I just ordered. If I had sat on my butt and procrastinated like normal, I probably would have gone with the AMD.... but I thought I was finally doing something good by getting off my butt, lol.

 

[QuickTwist]

it pisses me off.

I haven't bought a new computer for years, and my old system died, so I finally ordered a new system with an i7 7700K about ten days ago, and then last week suddenly this gets big splashy news -- a cheaper chip by AMD that benchmarks better than the one I just ordered. If I had sat on my butt and procrastinated like normal, I probably would have gone with the AMD.... but I thought I was finally doing something good by getting off my butt, lol.

Like the conclusion states, it really matters what you use it for. If you are a gamer, its better to go with 7700K, if you are something else, go with R5.

 

[QuickTwist]

Here is another covering the same thing with a different angle:

https://youtu.be/MgHnLu6k0D4

 

[Rixus]

An AMD that performs like an i7 7700k? It probably needs liquid nitrogen canisters attached to it to prevent the atmosphere around it from combusting.

 

[Cognisant]

I've got the i7 7700K, personally I see it as a compromise between having something well supported and not having an apple, if someone's PC is an AMD and Linux machine I'm happy to concede their nerd cred is greater than mine.

 

[Jennywocky]

Well, if the 7700K is good enough for Coggy and the forces of transhumanism, I guess it is good enough for me....

An AMD that performs like an i7 7700k? It probably needs liquid nitrogen canisters attached to it to prevent the atmosphere around it from combusting.

I did not buy a high-end gaming system (where I equate that kind of system to a pricetag of $3000-5000, of which they had product lines running that high).

And the lower-end system I specced and bought didn't quite need that level of cooling, but wow, yeah, I saw they had cooling systems for the higher end stuff that was essentially its own complex subsystem of the computer, sometimes using liquid coolant.

This has come a far way from when my 286 had a dinky fan on the back and a very minor heatsink on the CPU if at all. (I can't even remember anymore, it was 25 years ago.)

 

[Rixus]

Well, if the 7700K is good enough for Coggy and the forces of transhumanism, I guess it is good enough for me....



I did not buy a high-end gaming system (where I equate that kind of system to a pricetag of $3000-5000, of which they had product lines running that high).

And the lower-end system I specced and bought didn't quite need that level of cooling, but wow, yeah, I saw they had cooling systems for the higher end stuff that was essentially its own complex subsystem of the computer, sometimes using liquid coolant.

This has come a far way from when my 286 had a dinky fan on the back and a very minor heatsink on the CPU if at all. (I can't even remember anymore, it was 25 years ago.)

The old days of 286 you had one little case fan. I remember when I was replacing my CPU with a Pentium 3 450MHz I'd acquired, and we were amazed that they'd put a fan directly on the CPU to make it cooler. Now I have this huge dual fan thing that looks like a fridge element in it.

Apparently, the new AMD models don't overheat like the older ones did - but I just don't trust them when something that performed like and i3 and at the same price was twice as hot (My son has an A10 7800 and it often hits 185 degrees F, mine never goes over 100 even at full load and we have the same CPU cooler.)

You can see the difference between where I live and the US. Here, my circles consider my set up to be "ridiculously overspec'd." I have a 4670k, with an overclocked 960 (that hits about 1340MHz). I'm the only one who actually has a gaming keyboard - they all consider it a complete waste of money.

A system built around a 7700k would be considered unobtainable by our standards.
£1k is considered high end. I think mine added up to about £800 of equipment when I got it (including all peripherals). About £750 is considered a decent gaming system, £500 otherwise. I'm known to tell people now not to buy those entry level Celeron based systems as you might as well just get a tablet, but they just buy whatever is cheaper.

 

[Jennywocky]

The old days of 286 you had one little case fan. I remember when I was replacing my CPU with a Pentium 3 450MHz I'd acquired, and we were amazed that they'd put a fan directly on the CPU to make it cooler. Now I have this huge dual fan thing that looks like a fridge element in it.

Yeah, I think I'm running a Pentium 4 from 2011 or something (?) ... I no longer remember... and it's got the fan + the heat sink that is about 1.5" tall on it. Plus the separate vidcard (NVidia) 940 I think, with its own fan built into it piping out through HDMI cable.

I used to rebuild my system every two years when young, but you can tell my priorities changed because I just buy something now more off-shelf since I don't want to monkey with it. I have no fear of installing new cards and memory, but I don't have the time to troubleshoot if I was going from scratch. Just easier to pay someone else for the time for something I know will work together.

You can see the difference between where I live and the US. Here, my circles consider my set up to be "ridiculously overspec'd." I have a 4670k, with an overclocked 960 (that hits about 1340MHz). I'm the only one who actually has a gaming keyboard - they all consider it a complete waste of money.

I picked up a minor gaming keyboard -- not a high end one, it was only $35, but it has lights built in that you can change the colors on (all cosmetic bling stuff), the touch feels pretty solid, and you can of course reprogram all the keys and do macros.

A system built around a 7700k would be considered unobtainable by our standards.
£1k is considered high end. I think mine added up to about £800 of equipment when I got it (including all peripherals). About £750 is considered a decent gaming system, £500 otherwise. I'm known to tell people now not to buy those entry level Celeron based systems as you might as well just get a tablet, but they just buy whatever is cheaper.

Interesting. I spent about $1500 on this system I am getting, coming with a 2Tb drive, everything in the box. I have my own monitor already I don't need to upgrade. I expect it to be smoking enough for my needs. I guess if I was a professional gamer playing stuff with consistently high FPS needs, I could see spending 2-3x that, but not for my needs really....

 

[Kuu]

i7 7700K, nice.

Getting depressed about tech updates is something one should get over soon. If it's on the shelves its already obsolete.

and not having an apple

I read Nvidia just released beta macOS drivers for their 1000 line GPUs (does this mean VR-capable Macs in the future? Though that price tag...). If I didn't want to suffer with updates potentially bricking my computer I'd be open to trying to hackingtosh.

A system built around a 7700k would be considered unobtainable by our standards.
£1k is considered high end.

I think that over 2k USD (excluding monitor) is insanity for showoffs or people that think a couple of fps will make them better...

 

[TheManBeyond]

my pc has 8 gb of ram

 

[Jennywocky]

i7 7700K, nice.

Getting depressed about tech updates is something one should get over soon. If it's on the shelves its already obsolete.

I more just enjoyed having a momentary outlet for outrage.

I think that over 2k USD (excluding monitor) is insanity for showoffs or people that think a couple of fps will make them better...

Yeah, I wasn't real happy even with $1400, at some point you are not getting much bang for your buck. Or in the high range, some of it seems to be (1) people blowing money just because they have it to blow or (2) amateurs who feel better about their own skills if they are using "professional" level equipment. It only matters when you've got high stakes high-end performance that is necessary.

 

[QuickTwist]

I have a 5820K intel processor, so I can't justify buying any of these other CPU's, including the 7700K. So while 7700K is better at handling games, the 5820K is better at other stuff. The 7700K costs about the same amount as my processor that I bought in 2014. The 5820K has more cores and more threads (2X threads) so my processor is better at things that actually utilize those extra threads. The problem is, not many applications actually do make use of all those threads.