retarded ISFPs/ESFPs with disorders

[SkyWalker]

Lets talk about superretarded ISFPs/ESFPs (even though good ones exist).

I mean those ISFPs/ESFPs gone bad, the evil hateful ones. The ones with an evil cluster B personality disorder (histrionic, borderline, narcissistic, etc).
Think strippers, whores, and other low class trailer park scum that hate your guts by default

Jung said in Ptypes/chapterX that Fi is especially negative feeling.

ISFPs & ESFPs are Fi-people. (skipping the N's for now, since they are usually smarter)

The ones I know are pretty hateful. Jealous to the max, over-suspicious/paranoid about their partner cheating. Always taking revenge on their ex-es, breaking up in a way to maximize damage to the other. Talking about them to others as if they are bastards/retards/pieces-of-shit/scum-of-the-earth (but they actually picked them themselves??).
Also they use a lot of vile language. And they dont care if they look slutty/dirty/cheap/sleezy/lowclass. Ready to take themselves down in a fight or drama, ready to stamp their body full of ideologies they dont understand (tattoos) just to annoy the crap out of all others

I think they are extra stupid because they are so full of oppossition/hate. You cant learn from others if you suspect they are the enemy and thus everything that is presented to you by them to be a way to take you down (because this is what enemies do). So you become suspicious of the enemy. And of course that blocks all learning, if your teacher is the enemy,.

The only way they learn is when their enemy's enemy presents them something, because the enemy of your enemy is your friend, something like this. This is also
how these girls work when there is trouble with their boyfriend, they fuck another (his competitor/enemy) the next day.
This is also how they flock to opppositional groups, like join "tattoo people", join "the escort agency". its not for love of the tattoo or the escort business, its simply because of hate for something else. (because dad or boyfriend pissed them off or whatever)

The essence of Fi is pretty nice huh?

Or am I over-reacting?

Whats your opinion?


P.S. I think N tempers this shit behavior, because it give the individual the ability to zoom-out into the abstract and then this silly shit is not relevant anymore. So thats why I think ENFPs/INFPs are too smart for this (although they do have little tendencies like this as well).

 

[GYX_Kid]

I've always thought that Fi was easier to manipulate than Fe, because of how strongly it insists on belonging to one army or siding with one anything. Fe may be generally more open, but the more attuned I get to what Fi thinks it identifies itself with... yeah.

 

[P.H.]

The ones with an evil cluster B personality disorder (histrionic, borderline, narcissistic, etc).

I am offended by this.

Furthermore I have nothing to contribute.

(Seriously though. The only borderliners "we" know are the extreme cases. Not all borderliners are like that.)

 

[Mello]

And INTPs aren't super retarded?

[We're not better than other types. Most of us just don't understand other types. Most of us don't care to understand.]

 

[Vrecknidj]

And INTPs aren't super retarded?

[We're not better than other types. Most of us just don't understand other types. Most of us don't care to understand.]

QFT

And, FYI, using the term "retarded" in this context is highly offensive to many, especially those who, for instance, have retarded siblings.

 

[GYX_Kid]

ISFP takes the cake for interacting with most confused turmoil, convinced regret and self-flagellation experienced, out of any type.

I'm thinking about whether I should bother trying to dissect and approach them from different angles and be all IxTP, or to save myself further trips into mental insanity (which might make the mind stronger in some ways, having to battle shit)

 

[Dapper Dan]

QFT

And, FYI, using the term "retarded" in this context is highly offensive to many, especially those who, for instance, have retarded siblings.

Were you referring to Cake's usage or SkyWalker's?

I only ask because I was somewhat offended by SkyWalker's post, and that's kind of a rarity for me.

 

[GYX_Kid]

Personality-disordered individuals are subhuman, and should be exterminated by means of nailing to a cross in public display, knifing in the throat, and lighting on fire (in case of disease). Waaaah.

Is "a bitching person" the one being offended, or the one complaining about shit and shitty humans? Both?

Humans are faggots in general

 

[Vrecknidj]

Were you referring to Cake's usage or SkyWalker's?

I only ask because I was somewhat offended by SkyWalker's post, and that's kind of a rarity for me.

SkyWalker's. (Note that I didn't assume it was intended to be inflammatory. I didn't quite get that vibe. However, I did get the sense that it wasn't considered.)

 

[SkyWalker]

haha offended?

ISFPs/ESFPs were not supposed to read it!

"super-retarded" should be read as "super-annoying". dont tell me that you never met a super-annoying ISFP/ESFP.
and i didnt insult all ISFPs/ESFPs, because i said in one of the first few lines "good ones exist too"

 

[crippli]

"super-retarded" should be read as "super-annoying".

Try perhaps to be less succinct and more precise next time. It's to expect much having to have to go by should.

My opinion is that you have had an Stard moment. The ideas don't seem very abstract and elegantly formulated. Rather the opposite.

 

[SkyWalker]

isnt it great fun to make SF-jokes on an NT-forum?

 

[Reluctantly]

Personality-disordered individuals are subhuman, and should be exterminated by means of nailing to a cross in public display, knifing in the throat, and lighting on fire (in case of disease). Waaaah.

So you want the world to yourself, eh? Whatever gets your rocks off, man.

 

[Reluctantly]

HA HA HA

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yOU wILL rUE tHE dAY cake! i aM nOT jUST rETARDED, bUT skillfully rETARDED!!

 

[GYX_Kid]

So you want the world to yourself, eh? Whatever gets your rocks off, man.

I was kinda half-joking, but yeah your post makes some sense beyond its' face-value logic

I know someone who I think might be an ESFP and very napoleon complex, possibly even somatic narcissist- did have strange self-sexual and homosexual inclinations that weren't "true"...hard to explain

 

[Reluctantly]

I know someone who I think might be an ESFP and very napoleon complex, possibly even somatic narcissist- did have strange self-sexual and homosexual inclinations that weren't "true"...hard to explain

Please do! This one could be fun.

 

[GYX_Kid]

Please do! This one could be fun.

I'd have to ask his friends about that for the details. Apparently his big male friend (who I'm cool with) would get hit on by him, and this friend would also get hid behind whenever he'd otherwise have to take responsibility for something.

All I directly know about him that pertains to me is that he tried being a dick when I was a real social weirdo, and then would fuck all these girls including one ..psychologically messed up ISFP.. (ha) who I lost earlier for various reasons.

So I proposed to fight this guy (which even his friends encouraged me to do), and then he punked out of it and joined the army. He's like 5 foot, fighting might be interesting now that he has whatever army training he managed to really learn. Though I wouldn't wanna get my arm broken over just some little douche. The fucking weasel might as well just go die of AIDS somewhere.

 

[Nibbler]

I know what you are saying. I generally become anxious around people who clearly live an agenda driven life, hold very proud but nasty blanket-opinions about whole swaths of people, don't care to analyze a situation clearly and then jump to insults when their insane comments are replied to. I just want to get away from them hastily since their stupidity and obvious inteclletual dishonesty is like Kryptonite to fact finding and clarity.

It's as if they behave like intellectual jackasses just to cause a diversion, "You're about to find me out. Quick, listen to this off topic insult or nonsensical comment!"

However, I think your rant is fueled by something other than just frustration with the type. I think you're pissed at women of the type, not the whole type.