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Questions about cognitive functions

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1. How can you tell which cognitive function is being used?
2. Can more than one cognitive function be used at once in a given situation?
3. How possible is it to use introverted functions in an extrovert setting and vice versa?
4. Or is it that all functions are running constantly, sometimes one takes over depending on the situation?
 

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How do you know cognitive functions are being 'used' at all? Before you can get answers to your questions you need to understand what a function most likely is.
 

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Yeah, wow, thanks for showing me the videos. I was looking at it the wrong way. Now, from what I got from the videos, cognitive functions are paired as perceiving and judging functions? He was talking about Ti-Fe and Ne-Si axes. I now know that cognitive functions aren't used indivudually. I might still be looking at it incorrectly, but I must ask the following questions to figure that out:

Are both axes constantly operating in the mind? Or is one axis used to judge and one is used to perceive? Basically, are these functions used like having modes?
 

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1. How can you tell which cognitive function is being used?
2. Can more than one cognitive function be used at once in a given situation?
3. How possible is it to use introverted functions in an extrovert setting and vice versa?
4. Or is it that all functions are running constantly, sometimes one takes over depending on the situation?

1. Personal experience
2. Yes. I believe people always used CF as a pair(ESFP is Se-Fi, Te-Ni for example, but not Se-Te or Se-Ni). This CF pair must be two CF which can support each other following the rule: I-E and T/F-N/S.
3. The 4 CFs work as the master-slave model. The 3 later CFs who are slaves must serve the dominant one who is master CF. In other words, an ESFP use his/her Fi in the Se way, and it's different from an ISFP use his/her Fi. We still can discern the Fi from other CFs though.
4. Yes. They are running constantly, but most of the time we can only see two first CF, the rest are two weak to be recognized, till in late of our life.

In short, I would say our 4 CFs can be recognized by two attribute:

- Intensity(or other better replaced words, sorry my English grammar suck): measure how frequently and strongly we use our CFs. The strongest is dominant CF and the weakest is inferior function.

- The role of each CF. It's not simply the intensity of the CF, but their role also. The 1st and 2nd is the most important CF since they are strongest and we can tell what type of a person by recognizing them. All of CFs work for the dominant as its slaves. We use other weak functions in the dominant function way.

By saying "personal experience", I mean if you want to apply the MBTI CFs into real life, you must be really in it. You need to understand the CF concept first, then observer other people around you. You use your absorbing information function(either S or N) to "eat" the information about your object(people I mean). And finally trying to figure out what type of them are. You must be subjective, don't mind to be subjective and don't believe in Ti-objective bullshit if you are an INTP. Feel free to be subjective because it's our personal subjective opinion after all.

From time to time, depend on your ability, your effort you put in it you will have experience( not necessary Si I mean) and skills. It's subjective, it's biased and it's may wrong but who care? However what I really get from my experience about recognizing other CFs is about understanding myself. I'm not F type after all why I have to care about other, bullshit. The more we understand other the more we actually tend to understand ourselves, to be change, to be adapt and to be survived.

P/S: Honestly I don't trust those MBTI youtube videos. Watching them for fun, fine, but for education or learning something I don't think so. Because they are their subjective opinions actually, why we have to take them while we already have own one? Trusting the core and trusting yourself are better.
 

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It becomes rather apparent when function direction is the same but opposite like Ti vs Fi in case of dominant auxiliary. It tends to collide and hard. This is why I have to be extra careful with INFPs and avoid ISFPs. I mean INFPs want to teach their superiority in relating to different things when I just run things through logical shredder and make something new out of it. I think I could be very cruel to ISTPs in a way that I could shovel intangible possibilities down trough their throat.
They (ISTPs) respect me but at the same time they feel inferior and this is the case when INFP just manages to tame sociopathically inclined individual with their presence.
 

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A function generally is a process of utilizing/transforming some kind of data. By itself, it's just a processor of sorts.

In the past, it seemed people had an interpretation that the functions represented the data. (eg. the Si function was memories, Fe function was other people's feelings <-bad example).

I didn't like that, and proposed that something like 'memories' was the actual data that a function would process. Or, for example, 'feelings' where not the actual function, just the stuff that the function uses.

Perhaps, each function only handles filtered in data that was only meant for that function. Or perhaps, a function could process any type/structure of data.

Or maybe this avenue of abstraction is not even hitting the mark of the actual complex events that really are taking place psychologically.
 

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Function descriptions are useless if you do not understand their core context. Sensing is sensory data simple as that. Si is not memory per se. Si is about remembering procedures they have sensed through their bodies or imagined in other bodies. Se is acute environmental dynamics in your own hands etc that you can manipulate.
 
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