Psychology of Death Metal

[GYX_Kid]

iwrestledabearonce is completely industrial post-jazz mathcore with blastbeats, what are you talking about

nah, i totally agree. especially since bands in one pigeonholed genre often have elements that might sound more in common with another band that gets put into a different category.

 

[Artsu Tharaz]

Is it metal? Which of metal's ~5 sub-genres does it fit into?

Is it good? How good? C grade (background music), B grade (serves a purpose), A grade (life impacting)?

 

[GYX_Kid]

i was semi-making up bullshit to portray ridiculously accurate genre specificities, but yeah i dunno, i might give them around a B- which has the potential to change since i haven't heard much of/dwelled much on them. they're probably not on the metal-archives

 

[xbox]

I like Finntroll except they yell in Finnish. Sounds pretty awesome.

 

[pjoa09]

I rarely pay attention to lyrics, so I couldn't tell you. Plus, the lyrics are meant to enforce the music, so may not seem too great on their own, I dunno.

Morbid Angel
Therion
At the Gates

If you don't like the aesthetics of the genre, you probably won't care much for the lyrics either.

The names are really badass I 'll give you that.

But my tolerance levels for noise are too low, this just makes me wonder if they could do it in bossa .

Then again if God made metal and I asked him to put in bossa he'd corrupt and put me away with Hitler for genocide. Then I'll spend my eternity explaining Hitler how the swastika was meant for Hindus and by tilting it he can't bake Jews and do business that way.

Really that is a heavy copyright infringement, it was under GNU license.

I am done with ranting.

 

[Artsu Tharaz]

i was semi-making up bullshit to portray ridiculously accurate genre specificities, but yeah i dunno, i might give them around a B- which has the potential to increase since i haven't heard much of/dwelled much on them. they're probably not on the metal-archives

It was a general guideline, not directed at your comment.

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Speaking of Finns:

YouTube - Beherit - All in Satan

YouTube - Demilich The Planet that Once Used to....

YouTube - Skepticism - Sign of the Storm

Anything else?

 

[Artsu Tharaz]

Re: Death Metal Bible

The Iliad: Bible of Death Metal

 

[GYX_Kid]

suomi finland perkele!

YouTube - Impaled Nazarene - Zero Tolerance


and an up and coming finnish black metal band:

YouTube - Served Dead - The Hammer


(although both of those are musically closer to rock than to death metal)

 

[GYX_Kid]

more finnish metal:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v74AP-_JgQo


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RcQzYEBte5g

^ that one is experimental orchestral death metal

 

[xbox]

I find myself listening to more death metal during finals week

 

[Jedi]

YouTube - Super Joint Ritual - Waiting For The Turning Point

 

[Panopticon]

I used to obsess over death metal and heavy music about five or six years ago. Still love it but I usually aim for chill music these days.

YouTube - Arsis- A Feast For The Liar's Tongue

YouTube - Bloodbath - Weak Aside

YouTube - Decapitated - The Eye of Horus

YouTube - Nile - User-Maat-Re

YouTube - Suffocation - Catatonia

YouTube - Cryptopsy Graves of the Fathers None So Vile

YouTube - Necrophagist- Stabwound

YouTube - Vital Remains - Reborn ... The Upheaval of Nihility

YouTube - Death - Trapped In A Corner

I knew two of these guys in high school. They are very talented.
YouTube - The Devine Manifestation - Arkaik

There you go.

 

[Artsu Tharaz]

Though many have tried, none thus far have been able to match the raw energy of The Slayer.

YouTube - Slayer - Raining Blood


RAINING BLOOOOOOOOODDDDDDDDDDDD \m/

 

[EyeSeeCold]

Though many have tried, none thus far have been able to match the raw energy of The Slayer.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7KsPZ1f7MDs

RAINING BLOOOOOOOOODDDDDDDDDDDD \m/

Is that right?

YouTube - Dark Angel - Darkness Descends

 

[Artsu Tharaz]

fuck. most intense metal build up EVAR.

'86 was a good year, huh?

 

[Anthile]

This thread is not in the music subforum. Don't derail it.

 

[Artsu Tharaz]

The posts are relevant if you read them the right way.

 

[Anthile]

No, they're not. The last page was literally just people posting music videos but no discussion whatsoever. If you want to post music, fine, but do it in another thread.

 

[EyeSeeCold]

No, they're not. The last page was literally just people posting music videos but no discussion whatsoever. If you want to post music, fine, but do it in another thread.

True, even Sensi Star seems to have acknowledged this :

It's turned into a Death Metal appreciation / classification thread.

But what more can you say? Of course certain psychologies will be attracted - the ones who feel repressed, the ones who are violent etc, but you also have people who like the music for what it is. I think before you claim that you need to be of a disorder to enjoy a certain type of music, you should sample a bit of it. And I think it's in such a person's best interests to sample the music that people who highly regard the genre suggest. Otherwise it's just a "holier than thou" situation.

 

[Artsu Tharaz]

http://www.theatlantic.com/magazine/archive/2011/05/how-heavy-metal-is-keeping-us-sane/8443/

I thought this article was very interesting. The basic premise: humans have an innate need to unleash aggression towards the environment, which certainly makes sense from an evolutionary standpoint, but that in modern society we have no outlet for this and so instead unleash it in whatever circumstance we can find, even if it is totally out of proportion with the reality of the situation. The example given, is people getting frustrated at someone taking too long to make their coffee. I used to be bewildered by this kind of behaviour, but now it all makes sense - these people don't listen to metal! So, chances are the average metal fan is a lot less "angry" and more lighthearted than your typical person (of course, some people don't have this innate need to unleash aggression, and so are neither angry people nor metal fans).

Metal stops us from taking the mundane too seriously, and thus directs our energy towards greater purposes.

 

[xbox]

YouTube - Finntroll - Trollhammaren

 

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[rattymat]

While I do believe that certain musical tastes can be reflective of one's personality, I would argue that one's relationship to a genre or artist is quite diverse. Therefore, you cannot create a standard reasoning for why one likes a certain genre such as death metal. However, there are general reasons behind why someone may appreciate it. Some of these reasons seem to have been mentioned, but overall it can be encompassed within the notion of the genre's darkness. It is possible that they are emotionally dark, such as sadistic, or that they are angry, or perhaps they feel this dark emotion connects them with the negative aspects of human life.
To respond to Words, we have a similar reasoning for what we like about music. It truly is about sound, and how the different sounds connect to each other to formulate a complex relationship. The sounds which connect each other should ultimately create a complicated and abstracted emotion. Therefore, any particular genre may accomplish this, but generally genres subscribe to a certain emotion (though of course there is still much diversity of emotions within genres, which I think can usually be illustrated though sub genres).

 

[Akuma]

I don't really think the Metal genre has anything behind it, any more than preferences for any other genre. Some of the most hyperactive people I know are metal fans.

I think, however, popular/familiar music does. I read somewhere that the reason why we enjoy music is because our brains can predict the melody signalling the release of dopamine.
It's probably why popular music seems the same to people.

 

[Affinity]

Re: Complete guide to metal

Roughly there is:
- Heavy metal: early metal like Sabbath, NWOBHM like Maiden, various other styles

- Speed/thrash metal: Metallica, Slayer

- Death Metal: what we've been discussing

- Black Metal: Burzum, Darkthrone, Beherit, Bathory

- Doom Metal: this genre makes no sense. It starts as styles of heavy metal and death metal, then develops further to be inclusive of lots of heavy, gloomy styles of metal. I think INTPs are probably pretty into this stuff.
Candlemass (heavy), Winter (death), Eyehategod, My Dying Bride, Electric Wizard, Skepticism (Skepticism and Eyehategod are apparently part of the same sub-genreesse lolwat)

- Power metal: includes folk metal, prog metal, symphonic metal and melodeth
Blind Guardian, Dragonforce, Dark Tranquility, Eluveite, Finntroll, Dream Theater, Nightwish

Thrash punk and grindcore should be looked into along with extreme metal, these evolved along side thrash metal and death metal.
- DRI, Corrosion of Conformity; Napalm Death, Blood-garde, Bolt Thrower

I think that's about it.

What about progressive metal/avant-garde metal like Tool? This is what I would imagine INTPs would enjoy with more melodic, experimental, progressive, dynamic, and technical approach. Plus with vocals you can comprehend as well as non straightforward lyrics.

I cannot stand death metal or screaming music mainly because of the lack of dynamic and bpm. Like all the instruments and vocals have to be in your face (technically ears) the whole time. Some crescendo and decrescendo would be much appreciated!
Oh well, I'm sure there may be some I could enjoy but to me, it's just an extremely technical wall of sound.

 

[kantor1003]

Re: Complete guide to metal

I cannot stand death metal or screaming music mainly because of the lack of dynamic and bpm.

bpm=beats per minute. The term doesn't make sense the way you used it (care to explain?).
I tend to agree with your sentiment though, regarding lack of dynamic variation; there are however, thankfully, a few exceptions. Also, I believe dynamic (and often harmonic) sterility/monotony within the genre is steadily declining in favor of the opposite. At least, that's my impression, but I might be mistaken, as I haven't followed that particular genre closely for a long time due to the reasons mentioned above with the exception of a few groups that happens to avoid such.

 

[Affinity]

Re: Complete guide to metal

bpm=beats per minute. The term doesn't make sense the way you used it (care to explain?).

I apologize I was a bit under the influence when I wrote that

What I meant to say is that I'm not a fan of the lack of dynamics nor the fast bpm nature of death metal which I'm sure is an attribute of technicality. When I worked with a bunch of metal heads, they would always argue which band was better and the basis for those arguments usually were how technical and how fast the band could play it seemed like.

 

[Sensi Star]

Re: Complete guide to metal

which band was better and the basis for those arguments usually were how technical and how fast the band could play it seemed like.

I've had this conversation too with metalheads, and it's sooo frustrating. These are the kind of people who say "Jimi Hendrix is overrated". I always disagree, I think his fame is completely deserved.

I would go, "Speed is not everything. Listen to how Hendrix chooses the perfect notes to fall in just the right places. That's what real talent is".

I cannot stand death metal or screaming music mainly because of the lack of dynamic and bpm. Like all the instruments and vocals have to be in your face (technically ears) the whole time. Some crescendo and decrescendo would be much appreciated!

Agreed. To me what separates music from "noise" is variety in tempo within a song. It's got to have ups and downs. This is what had led me to appreciate Opeth despite not liking most alternative metal. They've clearly mastered that concept.

 

[HDINTP]

What is it about this type of music that is so popular. Extremely loud, relentless drum beats with heavily distorted guitar and dark screaming vocals speaking of death, destruction, and terror.

Do most people who listen to this have some sort of underlying darkness within them such as childhood trauma, emotional instability, self hatred, etc, for which this music provides release? What would compel someone to listen to this stuff, other than wanting to put up a front of 'hardcore' masculinity?

My opinion is that they may have bad experiences but it can also help them don´t you think?

 

[the_s_rabbit]

I can't even decipher Def Leppard's lyrics, so I have no chance in hell at understanding what DM bands are screaming about. I really don't care about the lyrics at all. I just like the music. I was in a thrash/death metal band for a long time. Most guys in death metal bands are really laid back, mellow, very approachable, and friendly. It is just entertainment, after all.

Classic Death Metal Favorites:
Death
Morbid Angel
Carcass
At The Gates

Death/Hybrid Metal Favorites:
Strapping Young Lad
Gojira
Cynic
Atheist
Sepultura (up to Chaos A.D.)
Opeth

Black Metal Favorites:
Dummy Burger (Dimmu Borgir)