Prove Toad's MBTI Type!

[Toad]

I find that I am an INTP 99%! But some of you seem to disagree.

Can you guys tell me what qualities about me you find to be not INTP?

You can be hurtful as much as you want.

 

[Artifice Orisit]

You can be hurtful as much as you want.

May I direct you to the Existential Crisis thread, or was that Stoicism?
Either way you seem like an INTP to me, a least an INTJ (just a little jest).

 

[fullerene]

^^absorbed cultural values/ideas/everything. INTPs are (I think I've read) the most fiercely independent type... though I think INTJs come close, or might be more so than us. In any case, they're ideologically-independent... free-thinking and everything. Like you said in some other thread, it might just be the location that you're arond and start to act like... but I sort of violently reject the motivations for doing things that everyone around me seems to share. One of my friends said something along the lines of "I think.... you're just so 'motivated by logic' that nobody knows what to do with you." In this context, he meant doing weird things like not wearing shoes, not fawning over girls when they were around, and things like that. People sort of wanted me to be like them, in these areas, for some reason or another, but ultimately had to fall back on "but... come on! It's ridiculous not to!" or something like that. I can make most actions seem reasonable to anyone, although they'll rarely adopt them, and people think I'm sort of borderline-crazy for doubting the most obvious things and listening closely to the most absurd ones.

I sort of thought these were INTP-type things, but you seem to "sponge" most ideas from people around you. However, if you were right in saying that your dad's death early in your life might have left you with an unnatural respect for all the other older males in your life, then that could account for the sponging... cause I definitely do take ideas from people who I respect. I've never lost anyone, though, and don't know any INTPs grown up in those conditions, though, so I haven't the slightest idea if that accounts for it or not. That's probably the biggest non-INTP thing I've seen from you though.

 

[Agent Intellect]

is attention whore a type?

in all seriousness, though, i really don't know who you are, so i am simply wasting yours, and everyone elses time by making this post. if anyone is still reading, then they clearly have not heeded my prior statement.

 

[Toad]

Cryptonia: I can see how you may think that I may not be ideologically independent. In many ways I can see how I have conformed with my friends. I am actually nothing like them though. I find myself to be extremely independent in thought from my friends and family. My friends and family always tell me how weird and stubborn I am.

I enjoy dressing nice and attracting girls. I don't think that has anything to do with being an INTP. I do notice that I take in or "sponge" a lot of information around me. I find myself to be kind of like a chameleon sometimes. I change the way I talk and act to fit in to my surroundings. But I still keep my beliefs and ideas independent. I just find that changing my outter appearance really has nothing to do with my beliefs so I change easily.

I am sure I am correct about my dad's death affecting me though. I always feel like I have to prove myself to older males or males in general now. This of course will affect my INTP-ishness I guess.

 

[Agent Intellect]

perhaps the absence of the male figure in your life has caused you to search for yourself what it means to be a man, thus having to "sponge" the masculine attributes from those around you. and, your respect for older men was an attempt to find a father figure. then again, i could be way off base.

 

[Toad]

perhaps the absence of the male figure in your life has caused you to search for yourself what it means to be a man, thus having to "sponge" the masculine attributes from those around you. and, your respect for older men was an attempt to find a father figure. then again, i could be way off base.

I feel you are correct. I really do. It's like you just picked it right of my mind.

This is why I fully support the big brother program. I feel that every child needs a male influence in their life. I also get very upset when I see a father leaving his family.

 

[fullerene]

fair enough

 

[brain enclosed in flesh]

I feel you are correct. I really do. It's like you just picked it right of my mind.

This is why I fully support the big brother program. I feel that every child needs a male influence in their life. I also get very upset when I see a father leaving his family.

Now you want me to cry with you?

I'm just totally kidding, Red Toad, but I couldn't pass it up post the 'woman- root of all evil' exchange.

I don't know. You just seem very male, like you are trying to act out every male stereotype imaginable, which I suppose could be attributed to the whole lack of your father thing, as you say.

It's hard to say, as well, because I was pretty convinced I was an INTP and now I'm completely convinced I'm an INFP. And I tested INTP in the at least twenty MBTI tests I've taken in the couple of months, but there was always this corner in my brain occupied by doubt.

Who knows? All I know is that male stereotype behavior doesn't seem all that typical in the INTPs I've met/ talked to (aside from you). I know that if I wandered in and claimed I was an INTP and started posting threads about how much I love makeup and dresses and playing mind games with boys people would be a little suspicious.

But the fact that you are stressed out about your relationship with your gf and your lack of a job could be affecting your behavior as well. We all behave differently in stressful situations. Well, I know I do, anyway.

 

[Inappropriate Behavior]

@brain, the fact that you doubt you are INTP is kind of an INTP trait in itself. We're never sure about anything. Except when we are.

Toad? Toady? Dude? You are such a 'dude' as mentioned elsewhere. That doesn't mean you aren't INTP. I see a little of myself in you (at least younger self but I ain't no daddy figure so stop looking at me!!). There are some here who seem to have an easier time in figuring out a general direction in life to go in than say you or I. By easier I mean narrowed down to about 100 possibilities or less. Decicive bastards all if you ask me

 

[Toad]

Me attending military school may have something to do with my male stereotypism

 

[fullerene]

*facepalms*

lol, yes. yes it would . There was actually an INFP at personalitycafe who was in the millitary, and he developed an awful lot of very un-INFP traits while in service. I'm not sure what military school is like, but if it's similar, and they're trying to sort of gear you up to be in the army, or at least to follow orders, I'm sure that's a major factor.

 

[Inappropriate Behavior]

Me attending military school may have something to do with my male stereotypism

Critical information given as an afterthought.

*shakes head and sighs*

 

[Cryss Winters]

I've never lost anyone, though, and don't know any INTPs grown up in those conditions, though, so I haven't the slightest idea if that accounts for it or not. That's probably the biggest non-INTP thing I've seen from you though.

My sister died when I was 11?

 

[Toad]

My family and gf call me girly cuz I can't play sports and because I like to sing

 

[fullerene]

sing!

*directs Toad to http://www.intpforum.com/showthread.php?t=2732

 

[fullerene]

sing!

directs Toad to http://www.intpforum.com/showthread.php?t=2732

(mods, don't let through my other post if you see this first. I forgot to edit the link in afterwards, and the filter ate it)

 

[saffyangelis]

sing!

directs Toad to http://www.intpforum.com/showthread.php?t=2732

Yay! The musical snapvine may be revived!
Toad, get singing! =P


Also..

This is why I fully support the big brother program.

Is it worrying that I saw this, and thought of Big Brother the tv show?

 

[Inappropriate Behavior]

Also..

Is it worrying that I saw this, and thought of Big Brother the tv show?

Worrying, disheartening and pretty damn funny

 

[Toad]

I always dreamed of being a rock star... Just too scarred to sing in front of people

 

[snowqueen]

Seriously Toad,

If I would do one thing differently, I would suggest you stay off drugs for a couple of months and just let yourself be. You seem to be running away from a lot of things - but particularly responsibility.

It's that kind of thing which young men need fathers for - this kind of advice:

Stay off drugs or at least do them in moderation
Treat women properly
Take responsibility for your actions

In fact - how about the older men on this forum helping Toad out here with what it takes to be a man?

 

[Toad]

I have been clean foe the past 3 months.

 

[Inappropriate Behavior]

In fact - how about the older men on this forum helping Toad out here with what it takes to be a man?

This isn't about being a 'man'. It's about emotional maturity. Some of what may be lacking he can rectify himself and other things will just have to take it's own sweet time.

If I or any other older man were to say "Toad, you really should respect women more!" it would probably fall on deaf ears. What he needs is a woman that will demand that respect from him. None of us here (and it sounds like no one in his RL) can be any surrogate father figure. It takes way more time and contact than what is spent on this forum. A surrogate father/son relationship takes a lot of time to develop and the son has to develop a certain level of trust and respect for the father figure. Text won't cut it. How could it? Without that deep bond, nothing I or anyone else here could say would have the weight of that respect to make an impact. At this point, it seems like it is all up to him.

 

[Toad]

It's going to be impossible for me to find a father figure now. I really don't trust anyone anymore and I'm too old and stubborn anyway.

You guys make me sound like a women hater...I'm reaaly not. I would say growing up with an all women family had made me quite feminent.

Snowqueen is right though...I need to take more responsibility for my actions. I don't know why it's so hard for me

 

[snowqueen]

I have been clean foe the past 3 months.

Do you want me to go back through your posts and find the evidence!

Were you just lying then for effect?

I was only basing this on your posts.

Perhaps your being clean is what is bringing out this more reflective and communicative Toad though?

 

[Toad]

I have been clean from cocaine. My only problem drug. I don't consider weed a drug and I have not been doing any other drug besides a beer here and there.

Quitting drugs does make u more reflective. Thanks for reminding me!

 

[brain enclosed in flesh]

@brain, the fact that you doubt you are INTP is kind of an INTP trait in itself. We're never sure about anything. Except when we are.

Not to get off topic, but to get off topic, INFPs do this, too. INFPs and INTPs aren't all that different- that's why a lot of us are confused between the two.

 

[echoplex]

I think the "why" of behavior reveals one's type more than the "what." So it depends on why you act a certain way. I would say it's possible that you're an ENTP, if not an INTP. Just a guess though.