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Pragmatism Vs. Nihilism: The Ben Shapiro, Sam Harris, Jordan Peterson Trifecta

Yourmother

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redbaron said:
What does the left have to do with my opinion of Ben Shapiro?



^ this paragraph pretty much explains it.

Even in a limited world where you believe gender is binary and separated into male and female, it's a total shithead move to call someone the wrong gender. If you don't want to get into calling people "xem" or something then whatever but that example rarely ever comes up in real life anyway.

Misgendering someone when you know what they prefer is just straight-up bullying, and there are few ways to respond to bullying unless the bullying is recognised for what it is. It's equivalent of someone giving someone a pet name they really don't want, and repeating it over and over even when asked to stop.

If it happened once, you might not think much of it and any insult perceived wouldn't really be that justified. But if you harassed that same person the same way over and over, and they endured it regularly to the point it became systematic bullying endured from many of their peers, in many social contexts, you'd probably understand why they were upset.

And yeah, nowhere am I condoning someone being violent and threatening someone like that - but if you watch that altercation (it's on YouTube somewhere) it becomes obvious who the real shithead provoking who is there, and why she person responds the way she does.

Ben Shapiro, and the people who follow him are more often than not quite hostile and malicious towards basically anything they don't understand - namely people from already repressed minority groups that are regularly bullied and socially stigmatised.
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I don't care about the specifics about what you think about Ben Shapiro. But the fact is, Ben Shapiro's entire argument is in opposition to the left and almost all of his talks or speeches reference the left. I don't believe you don't know this, unless you don't watch any recordings of his speeches. Without the left being this ridiculous, there would be no need for a Ben Shapiro.

Now, I actually don't have any opinion regarding transgendered people. In actual real life, if a man identified as a woman, I don't argue. What's the point of making an enemy over something trivial as a pronoun? No point, and I avoid being an asshole as much as possible. I would probably just avoid that person. Psychological studies also show that when transgendered people are accepted, they have lower rates of suicide. And as much of a dick I am online, I don't ever want anyone to kill themselves.

However, you seem to think that people who disagree with you are shitheads by default. Now, I think that's stupid. People have the right to their own opinions and the right to say whatever the fuck they want. Of course, that also means you have to right to call people who disagree with you shitheads. But when you condone censoring people for their views, that's crossing the line. Let me say it again, PEOPLE HAVE THE RIGHT TO SAY WHATEVER THEY WANT. They hate transgendered people, so what? You don't have to talk to them. Just ignore them instead of being offended.

I find that most people who get offended easily have never been in the military or worked 90 hour grueling work weeks. If only everyone in America could go through compulsory military service, so people would grow up and get thicker skin.
 

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redbaron said:
What does the "other side" have to do with the fact that Ben Shapiro quite plainly does the stuff I'm talking about?

Also, Steven Crowder, lol.

I get why you don't understand my arguments though, because you're exactly that brainwashed lowest common denominator who has a pre-existing personal identification with the, "right", so when presented with two turds, you pick the one you feel most familiar with. Your only defence (and everyone else who disagrees with my points so far) against my obviously truthful points about what a demagogic shithead Ben Shapiro is, amounts to, "no the left does that!" or, "but the left does this!".

This isn't about the left. I don't care about what the American left and right do, because they're all full of stupid demagogic shitlords.

You made a thread about how these people emody your personal development goals and you like to "learn" about things from these three people. One of these people is a special kind of ignorant hatemonger, and not in some relativistic sense of his actions in arbotrary comparison to whatever other fucked up people exist on the political "left" - no, he's just a fearful, spiteful, closed-minded demagogue.

How obviously poisoned your brain is becomes apparent when the only way you can possibly muster up any kind of refutation is some pathetic attempt at character assassination, or to juxtapose my words as if what I'm doing is somehow championing some mythical left-wing figure, and then you're attacking that - because what I've said is plainly and obviously true.
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Is your default reaction to anyone that disagrees with you is to throw a tantrum and fling pre-school insults like a monkey on Xanax? Nobody gives a fuck what you think about the right or left. The fact of the matter is, Ben Shapiro is a reaction to the left. Without a left to mock, there would be no Ben Shapiro. The fact that you are missing this means that the brainwashed lowest common denominator is you.

Ben Shapiro did not come to intpforum, look at RedBaron's posts, and go, "Hey! This guy thinks both the left and right are retarded, this means that every criticism of a ridiculous movement is now invalid because of this one guy's views!" Again, you are a random nobody, and no matter how much you hate the left it won't change the point that Ben Shapiro's actions are a mockery of the left. What part of mockery of the left did you not understand? You're also not special because you hate both the left and right. Anyone with half a brain and a university degree in something not useless also thinks both the left and right are fucked. Nothing is new here, move on.
 

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Relevant post though, RedBaron. Since you are so accommodating of transgendered people on the internet, how do you feel about my sexual identification as an Attack Helicopter?

I sexually Identify as an Attack Helicopter. Ever since I was a boy I dreamed of soaring over the oilfields dropping hot sticky loads on disgusting foreigners. People say to me that a person being a helicopter is Impossible and I’m fucking retarded but I don’t care, I’m beautiful. I’m having a plastic surgeon install rotary blades, 30 mm cannons and AMG-114 Hellfire missiles on my body. From now on I want you guys to call me “Apache” and respect my right to kill from above and kill needlessly. If you can’t accept me you’re a heliphobe and need to check your vehicle privilege. Thank you for being so understanding.

Please refer to me as Apache from now on in this forum. Thank you.
 
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