Post Idea About Death

[Reluctantly]

I'll go first.



We Never Really Die

Okay, go with this. Imagine you're going through your life and then at say age 14, a truck runs you over and you bleed to death until you die.

Okay, then maybe as soon as you die you wake up somewhere and the life that you lived ends up putting your consciousness into another time and place where you 'aren't dead' and you only get to remember the latter (last) parts of the dream. So now you are somewhere else, but with a whole new set of memories and only remember the very last events of the life you had before.

Okay, now you live to 80 and have a heart attack in your sleep and die only to wake up at 23 and remember you have to get to your exam or something.

This could make for an interesting concept to employ in a movie, although I guess it is kind of like inception, but a little different.

Someone else now.

 

[BigApplePi]

I'll go first.

I won't go. Not now. Maybe later.

 

[EvilScientist Trainee]

I read the first lines and thought 'Oh, like in Inception'.

But you said it yourself, now I have nothing left to say.

 

[Zezon Vice]

Personally, I have no problem thinking that death is permanent. Nothing else in our lives is.

 

[childish_intellect]

Personally, I have no problem thinking that death is permanent. Nothing else in our lives is.

Hell I will not be sleeping happy tonight. A pity but only too real.


I think of myself as energy (as are all the other things in the known universe). When I die my body will return to the Earth where it will be reborn into something else. I know I will no longer be whole but a part of me will be in everything.

Until then, really live your life to the fullest.

 

[Jesse]

I sometime think like this. Such as maybe I died and am just living in my own head or some alternative universe where I didn't because I've had some near death experiences and maybe the only way to cope with death is for your mind to continue on. But your idea is stupid, so start a religion and charge people money to improve their next live.

 

[BigApplePi]

I'll go first..

If you go first, I will still be alive. You will look down on me from heaven and I will be ...
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so ashamed.
http://www.google.com/imgres?imgurl...ZioCg&esq=9&page=1&ndsp=37&ved=1t:429,r:4,s:0

 

[Cogwulf]

Death only has meaning to the living, people who are dead cannot comprehend death or life. So from the -metaphysical- perspective of the dead, they haven't died.

 

[Cognisant]

If someone is frozen alive, then thawed and resuscitated, did they die?
Is that person still the same person, or has continuity been irreparably lost?

Sometimes I wonder if this is all the matrix and I'm actually an NPC.
That I only think that I think.

Because even if this isn't the matrix, that type of unreality may be actual reality, in fact I'm quite certain that I'm nothing more than a construct of individually lifeless parts that in its entirety is a system of matter that, as a system, projects this delusion that "I" exist.

In other words, I am the biological equivalent of a robot.
And weirdly enough this consoles me, because there is no death for a robot, only on and off.

 

[crippli]

I tend to think as long as my atoms are not divided I'm okay. But it some point they may venture out into deep space and be consumed by a red dwarf and implode. Our own sun will also make short process of them when earth is swallowed. Not sure what will be left or recognizable or what at all. I'm not particularly selfish about them either, as I presume I just borrowed them, for the time being. Creating an illusions that there is a me for their advantage.

Dunno, It's a bit confusing.

 

[Jennywocky]

If someone is frozen alive, then thawed and resuscitated, did they die? Is that person still the same person, or has continuity been irreparably lost?

And what happens when seven years pass and the bulk (or all) of any living person's cells have been replaced by new ones?

Sometimes I wonder if this is all the matrix and I'm actually an NPC. That I only think that I think.

Wait a moment... If you only think you're thinking, aren't you still thinking?

In other words, I am the biological equivalent of a robot.
And weirdly enough this consoles me, because there is no death for a robot, only on and off.

Or enough destruction of the robot's body that it cannot function any longer... equivalent to off.

 

[Reluctantly]

Spoiler

If you go first, I will still be alive. You will look down on me from heaven and I will be ...
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http://www.google.com/imgres?imgurl...ZioCg&esq=9&page=1&ndsp=37&ved=1t:429,r:4,s:0

Okay, I went. I'm talking to you from another dimension. It's really cool. Now it's your turn.

 

[Dimensional Transition]

Everything I have ever thought about life and death has already been posted here now. Took a while to get over those realizations back in elementary school. But yeah, you could keep on waking up in different situations, we could just be robots, and so on. I think it's common philosophy, just as the whole 'what if my red is your blue and your green is my yellow' thing.

 

[ijustprotectedmyidentity]

ok so you die in this present life due to arbitrary circumstances and so you are unconscious forever asleep just like before you ever even a sperm and an egg, perpetual darkness

but 15 billion years from now, in a different galaxy or in ours presently, there exists civilization. and a female and male from the same species fuck each other. and there you are. born again, reincarnated so to speak, but you wont remember this past life

 

[Cognisant]

And what happens when seven years pass and the bulk (or all) of any living person's cells have been replaced by new ones?

Or lets say someone believes touching anything red will burn them, meaning said person wouldn't willingly touch anything red, then learns that their belief is inconsistent with reality. If this person is picked up twice by a Tardis, so that there's a version that has the red=fire belief and one that doesn’t, can you say that these two people are the same person, even though, if both were presented with exactly the same stimuli, in exactly the same context (a red door as the only way into a room with a reward) they would make different choices.

Wait a moment... If you only think you're thinking, aren't you still thinking?

Lol, either you admit that a simulated person (AI) is a real person, or you imply that nobody is real.

Or enough destruction of the robot's body that it cannot function any longer... equivalent to off.

Of course, how is that any different to being turned off and never turned on again?

My point is not that as a biobot I cannot die, my point is that there is no inherently absolute distinction between life and death, thus I have never been alive in the "absolute" sense, which makes an absolute death meaningless & moot.

 

[BigApplePi]

Okay, I went. I'm talking to you from another dimension. It's really cool. Now it's your turn.

Tell me about it! I jumped off my doghouse. Nothing happened.

I'm stuck here in this lousy 3-D.

 

[BigApplePi]

Death & Robotics

Sometimes I wonder if this is all the matrix and I'm actually an NPC.
That I only think that I think.

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In other words, I am the biological equivalent of a robot.
And weirdly enough this consoles me, because there is no death for a robot, only on and off.

Test to see if you are a robot or not:

Punch yourself in the belly button ... really hard. Rinse and repeat. If it doesn't repeat you are not a robot.

 

[BigApplePi]

but 15 billion years from now, in a different galaxy or in ours presently, there exists civilization. and a female and male from the same species fuck each other. and there you are. born again, reincarnated so to speak, but you wont remember this past life

No problem. I got a notice this was my 2nd time around. I only had to wait 8 billion years, not 15. But you are right. I don't remember a thing.

 

[hablahdoo]

In the past I have argued that stop signs are conscious- there's no way to disprove it because we have no idea what consciousness is. At all. Any attempt to build a foundation of knowledge related to consciousness is silly. First step: Understand its role in the brain.

 

[Cognisant]

Re: Death & Robotics

Test to see if you are a robot or not:

Punch yourself in the belly button ... really hard. Rinse and repeat. If it doesn't repeat you are not a robot.

Test to see if you're a moron.

Stop breathing, repeat as necessary.

When I say "robot" I don't mean a brrr-click-beep-robot, I mean that I exist as the sum of my constituent parts, not as one part that is inherently me which controls the rest of me like (metaphorically) a pilot in a mecha, or a soul in a body if you prefer.

Also, unless you were only trying to insult me, your understanding of robotics is woefully lacking; verbal commands are not programming, you didn't program me, and even if you did and you commanded me to behave like an idiot, I would merely be enacting idiocy on your behalf, so who is the idiot really?

Next time at least try to be amusing.

 

[SkyWalker]

at least we know one thing: nobody ever went back to tell about it


(and those who do... were not dead yet)

 

[BigApplePi]

at least we know one thing: nobody ever went back to tell about it

(and those who do... were not dead yet)

This may be logically a bit crude, but I've seen at least two films where we feel sad at the death of a character and the next scene shows a baby's birth. I guess this means that while we don't hear from the dead, they have made room for someone new to talk.

 

[a detached retina]

I just had a dream that I had actually died when I was six years old and was buried under the house I grew up in as a child.

When I woke up I was thinking about that possibility and it made me afraid. Not in the sense like we are afraid of the unknown but more like the stomach sinking, scalp tingling feeling when we come to terms with sinister truth or realization.

I could be dead and this scares me not because of the concept of death but because I don't want to believe that existence for me is as superficial as it is. I want to believe in depth of the human psyche I want to believe in the richness of everyday life and human interactions. The fact that I could just as easily be dead confirms the artificial feel of life to me and I don't like it. I want to think that mom just made me a sandwich because she loves me but I really don't know her AT ALL even though I talk to her all the time.

 

[SkyWalker]

when you die, the familiar you (your ego) is gone forever, it does not go to disney land heaven. All your inner rationalities just vanish and burn like the trash that they are!

There is just 2 things left:
- the traces you left in the world (tangible & intangible)
- your instinctual type (which MBTI tries to describe) of which exact instinctual calibration will fall again in the gene pool, whether you have children or not. (e.g. reincarnation of your type).

 

[GYX_Kid]

any significant alteration of someone's super-ego