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Pluto's Unveiling - New Horizon's Mission

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In 2 days and 13 hours, the New Horizons spacecraft will be at its closest point to Pluto. :balance:

You can follow along at this continually updating Feed: http://pluto.jhuapl.edu/

We now know what Pluto's surface actually looks like (it's reddish-brown like Mars). I've been watching this faint collection of pixels grow into an actual geology for the past few months.

*excited*

Being the first and only planned expedition to the Pluto system, it's a historic moment. It's taken 9 years for the craft to get to Pluto even when going at a record-breaking ~36,000 mph. :ahh:
 

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It's about time! :elephant:
I actually can't wait to see more pics.
 

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And so, after first contact, our war with the plutonian iceforms begin.
 

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It's definitely exciting, but there are far more interesting objects in our solar system to explore in more detail.
 

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I actually can't wait to see more pics.
I know! ^^
I keep refreshing the feed every 2-4 hours; it's become impulsive. c.c

It's definitely exciting, but there are far more interesting objects in our solar system to explore in more detail.
Yeah. I'm really hoping for a mission to Europa sometime in the near future. The Juno mission is arriving to Jupiter in almost exactly a year, so that's a plus.

But it's always bugged me that we've had no real photographs for Pluto. Growing up I remember Pluto being drawn as a bland, light grey, Ceres-like world but it seems to be quite a dynamic little turbo.

Makes me warm and fuzzy knowing humanity's still making progress into space, after the 'golden age' of the 1960-1980s.
 

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And so, after first contact, our war with the plutonian iceforms begin.

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Psh, we'll be fine. They're more focused on internal power struggles, what with all of the inter-planetary plutonium mining.
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Europa is the way to go, yes. Drilling through the ice layer will be quite something.

Right now though i am waiting for our honored leaders to start terraforming mars
Then we can get anothet planet to rape and pillage.
 

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Beautiful, just beautiful.
 

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Makes me warm and fuzzy knowing humanity's still making progress into space, after the 'golden age' of the 1960-1980s.
It's a good feeling to know there's some progress being made in the name of humanity, sometimes I find myself wondering how much more could be achieved if the military spending was eliminated.
Sadly even the "golden age" had to be spurred on by the ambitions of the military cabinets. This might hopefully change.
 

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Honestly, I think the answer will be seen in the next hundred years.
Our resources are depleting while our numbers grow, so if the second exo-earth renaissance will occur, it will likely occur along with a global economic revision to counteract the very pressing situation we are heading towards.

If it does not occur, well then it's the same old same old, our species will just continue gallivanting about on a singular piece of rock.
 

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It's a good feeling to know there's some progress being made in the name of humanity, sometimes I find myself wondering how much more could be achieved if the military spending was eliminated.
Sadly even the "golden age" had to be spurred on by the ambitions of the military cabinets. This might hopefully change.

I think I've said almost this exact phrase. Also think about all the trillions pumped into the financial system by the Fed. What if that was put towards something useful other than propping up the facade...hmmm.

Amazing that we advance despite the BS.
 

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Honestly, I think the answer will be seen in the next hundred years.
Our resources are depleting while our numbers grow, so if the second exo-earth renaissance will occur, it will likely occur along with a global economic revision to counteract the very pressing situation we are heading towards.
Iv'e had this discussion with someone recently.

I think it'll be far easier and likely for us to terraform our own uninhabitable areas (like most of Africa, Russia and Antarctica) when it comes to needing expansion and solving problems of overpopulation.

We can do much more, make many more mistakes, and get resources to places far quicker and more effectively by focusing on terrestrial areas. I doubt we'll be leaving to space for purposes of habitation needs any time soon because all other planets (including Mars) are currently far harder to survive in, have less 'resources for life' than even the most unbearable places on earth.

It's not a better solution than earth unless you can already survive in most any hostile-to-human environment with less than what we have here, in which case expansion would be more about needing more elbow room.

After we learn how to properly live on our own planet, we can start living in others.

I think we'll find a way to curve our consumption rate and breeding rate... because we'll have to. I feel the world is going to learn moderation the hard way in the next 100 years. Like... the hard way. But it's also my hope that A.I. will spring up in time to help us make the innovations necessary to stabilize our planet's biosphere and find a healthy symbiosis with it. :)
 

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You are absolutely right auburn.
I have not considered that before...strange, such an obvious thing to do to attain lebensraum yet my mind fixated upon those far off worlds.

Terra-forming the Sahara or Siberia will give our species valuable insights into the future of taming other rocks, and will require the same mentality as even these actions are no small feat with our current resources and collective raison d'etre.


Well this has got me thinking that the moon may actually be better placed than mars for initial terraforming, even though the red planet is more water friendly and has traces of a compatible atmosphere, the moon will be much easier logistics-wise.

Especially as we bipedal apes have already tread upon it.
 

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14 hours left to go!!

Wooot!
Here's the most recent image of Pluto:

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And Charon:

[bimgx=500]http://i.imgur.com/PtiVgKY.jpg[/bimgx]

And here's New Horizons' relative distance from the Pluto system as of 2 minutes ago.
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I remember seeing an article which stated that the Hi-res photos will take up to 16 months to transmit; will there be (other than an AWESOME wallpaper, and of course updated pictures) any benefit to this?
 

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Err, to an economist, probably not. c.c

To our understanding of our planet and solar system's evolution, yes. ^^
Pluto is the only other planet body in our solar system with a moon comparable in ratio to our own moon. Pluto and Earth have been called 'binary planets' sometimes because their moons are enormous.

Scientists have high hopes of understanding what causes this arrangement by studying Pluto's system as a comparison point. New Horizons will also go on to study other icy worlds (KBOs, or Kuiper Belt Objects) to learn more about the earliest stages of our Solar System's. KBOs are a sort of fossil, having changed little since they first formed billions of years ago.
 

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Err, to an economist, probably not. c.c

To our understanding of our planet and solar system's evolution, yes. ^^
Pluto is the only other planet body in our solar system with a moon comparable in ratio to our own moon. Pluto and Earth have been called 'binary planets' sometimes because their moons are enormous.

Scientists have high hopes of understanding what causes this arrangement by studying Pluto's system as a comparison point. New Horizons will also go on to study other icy worlds (KBOs, or Kuiper Belt Objects) to learn more about the earliest stages of our Solar System's. KBOs are a sort of fossil, having changed little since they first formed billions of years ago.

Music to my ears. Dunno what Blarraun means about "far more interesting objects", because for me all of this stuff is like listening to Tchaikovsky or reading Plato. Just marvelous. Nature is a ravishing masterpiece. When Hubble's telescope first began imaging the universe, it was as if we could suddenly see an enormous swath of God's canvas... and between here and way out there this is definitely a wild place.

Just twelve hours until the unveiling. Ready your canvas and paint, Copernicus.
 

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Sweet.

Pluto has a mini solar system on its own.
 

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Music to my ears. Dunno what Blarraun means about "far more interesting objects"
Put the response in spoilers to keep the thread focused on Pluto.
I'm more interested in pursuing asteroid mining projects and exploring the possibly water bearing bodies such as Europa, Titan, Mars, comets, etc.

It seems pretty clear cut for me why a barren rock is less interesting than a multi-layered moon or planet with its own atmosphere, homeostatic climate and or termo-chemical dynamics and potential for life.

And I know Pluto will turn out more interesting than previously assumed, it's just that Pluto's upper bound of the function of being mysterious is far lower in number to say, probing Jupiter-Saturn moons, or even Venus, Athena-other group asteroid fields and so on.

To me the whole mission is a bit more of a marketing venture, since it's the solid core body classically assumed to be the last planet (now dwarf planet, but only recently and not in pop-culture), so it's venturing to the far corners of our system and doing the whole superlative (farthest, fastest, biggest) sport that doesn't appeal to me in this project.

For me, the Cassini-Huygens is a good example of an interesting mission, with a nice plan and goals (not that Pluto isn't, it is but less for the reasons stated). I guess we have the obligation to check it out before we cross it off and forget it even mattered historically.
I also do realise the Pluto new horizons project is roughly 5 times cheaper than Cassini, so I don't expect fireworks, it has to be done at some point so it could be now.
 

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We got it!!!!
We're now some 5 hours past the closest encounter. And data from as far away as Pluto takes about 5 hours to reach Earth. Pluto's about 5 light-hours from Earth. o.0

Just... wow...
It really reminds me of Mars.
It's collecting a lot more data than this, which'll be coming in the next few hours/days.
The highest resolution image from today's flyby will be released tomorrow at 8am ET (12:00 UTC) at a press conference.
 

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what a time to be alive :P
Indeed! :3

Another Update:


This is a false-color image of Pluto released by the New Horizons crew, using data from all instruments on board to highlight differences in constitution/etc.

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It seems the "heart" of pluto is actually composed of two very different terrains, and that yellowish color at the top is centered around the north pole, I think.

Here is Pluto and Charon (distance is not to scale) in false-color.

[bimgx=500]http://i.imgur.com/whJTyTX.jpg[/bimgx]
 

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Cool, was waiting for this. Are we going to get actual color images as well?

It looks so desolate...
 

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Yep. The latest colored image can be found here:
http://pluto.jhuapl.edu/News-Center/News-Article.php?page=20150714

Some of the high res photos have started to come out.
This is Charon close up:

[bimgx=500]http://i.imgur.com/HKydYbA.png[/bimgx]

And this is a mountain range on Pluto's surface:

[bimgx=500]http://i.imgur.com/30aFwzj.png[/bimgx]

Here's some articles for more details: ^_^

http://pluto.jhuapl.edu/News-Center/News-Article.php?page=20150715
http://pluto.jhuapl.edu/Multimedia/Science-Photos/image.php?gallery_id=2&image_id=230
http://pluto.jhuapl.edu/Multimedia/Science-Photos/image.php?gallery_id=2&image_id=231

Err, I think I'll take a break from updates now, unless something really awesome shows up. (:
 

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It's fascinating how varied the geography is on these relatively tiny cosmic bodies ^^ The forms wrought by nature are so intricate, even the smallest of things holds evidence of complex mathematics we are just barely beginning to understand. Gaia is the most masterful of artists..

Here's the most recent image of Charon. Looking forward to seeing the high-res images when they stream in!

[bimgx=500]http://pluto.jhuapl.edu/Multimedia/Science-Photos/pics/CHARON%20GRAPHIC%207-16.jpg[/bimgx]

Article: http://pluto.jhuapl.edu/Multimedia/Science-Photos/image.php?gallery_id=2&image_id=233
 
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