People repin' NT/NF online

[QuickTwist]

What's the deal with this? I see way too many people representing themselves as an NT/NF (I'm looking at you INFJ) online like its going out of style. At this point I don't care what type I am as long as it is my true type. TBH I'm so sick of it every time see a blatant ESFP repping as an NT I throw up a little in my mouth.

Who else is sick of this? Thoughts?

 

[Pyropyro]

What if they are actually NT's? They express their feelings online since they find it difficult to do so or feel vulnerable when doing so IRL. Perhaps they seem like Feelers because of this.

 

[subwayrider]

What's the deal with this? I see way too many people representing themselves as an NT/NF (I'm looking at you INFJ) online like its going out of style. At this point I don't care what type I am as long as it is my true type. TBH I'm so sick of it every time see a blatant ESFP repping as an NT I throw up a little in my mouth.

Who else is sick of this? Thoughts?

I don't know what you're talking about. I'm the real deal, baby.

 

[TheManBeyond]

Where? why not name them? me?
I haven't read much of your posts but you don't strike me as an NF as you were told in that video thread.

 

[Cherry Cola]

This is old news. It's hardly a problem here anyway, this place is too hardcore N for impostor S-types to stick around very long.

To make this thread funnier, why don't you point some fingers? That always get's it goin' good.

 

[The Gopher]

Point fingers in this thread! http://www.intpforum.com/showthread.php?t=17153

 

[QuickTwist]

This is old news. It's hardly a problem here anyway, this place is too hardcore N for impostor S-types to stick around very long.

this is actually a cool unique perspective and I appreciate its uniqueness.

To make this thread funnier, why don't you point some fingers? That always get's it goin' good.

DONT TEMPT ME! Its something I already have to try and control you heartless bastard!

 

[TheManBeyond]

be a man show some hairy balls

 

[QuickTwist]

I promise you, very few people will like it if I unleash the beast within. It should stay buried deep beneath my subconscious and sealed for all eternity. I can be quite ruthless when I don't care about the consequences and don't think about sparing people feeling. Example: I once beat up a kid pretty bad at church because I thought what he was doing was frivolous. He was playing tag with the other kids. True story.

 

[Lot]

I promise you, I unleash the beast. buried deep for all eternity. sparing people feeling. Example: I once beat a kid pretty bad at church with the other kids. True story.

 

[TheManBeyond]

Beatin up kids is bad but i can forgive you since it's not as bad as being psychologically abused. We mutate to achieve perfection, if this is not your goal you shall die now and no one would care. You're in the search for redemption, you are learning since you made some decisions.
Anyway i would defeat you if we had the ocassion to fight.
I have no doubts about my chances.

 

[QuickTwist]

Beatin up kids is bad but i can forgive you since it's not as bad as being psychologically abused. We mutate to achieve perfection, if this is not your goal you shall die now and no one would care. You're in the search for redemption, you are learning since you made some decisions.
Anyway i would defeat you if we had the ocassion to fight.
I have no doubts about my chances.

Oh I should mention that I was a kid too when I beat up that kid incase that was misunderstood. It happened a long time ago -upwards of 15+ years.
I am interested to know why you are so confident that you would beat me if we were to get in a fight. Did you serve in the military or do you have a decent background in martial arts? I am curious now.

 

[Cherry Cola]

Guys there's a fighting thread dedicated to these sort of questions:

http://intpforum.com/showthread.php?t=17958&page=4

 

[tinplythedinply]

What's the deal with this? I see way too many people representing themselves as an NT/NF (I'm looking at you INFJ) online like its going out of style. At this point I don't care what type I am as long as it is my true type. TBH I'm so sick of it every time see a blatant ESFP repping as an NT I throw up a little in my mouth.

Who else is sick of this? Thoughts?

Hah. I've always wondered about INFJs. I'm a member of the FB groups, and it is obvious to me which ones are displaying Fi and Ne, and which ones are displaying Ni and Fe. Or even worse, the Si doms that think they are Ni doms. I think it's cute. Well no, not really, actually.

As I said in my first post on this forum, INFJs are highly fetishized because they are seen as the most unique, or "rare". Thus, a lot of people flock to that type, and claim it as their own. Of course, there is a possibility that they have simply been mistyped, but I think the former is more common.

Aaaand then you have the INTJ, which seems to harbor the racist, sexist bigot. Or does it really? INTJ is seen as the most "intellectual" to a lot of people, and rational, so people mistype themselves as such because they want to justify their irrational beliefs as rational. Protip: Your excessive amount of confirmation biases
doesn't make you very rational, you twit.

 

[OmoInisa]

Hah. I've always wondered about INFJs. I'm a member of the FB groups, and it is obvious to me which ones are displaying Fi and Ne, and which ones are displaying Ni and Fe. Or even worse, the Si doms that think they are Ni doms. I think it's cute. Well no, not really, actually.

As I said in my first post on this forum, INFJs are highly fetishized because they are seen as the most unique, or "rare". Thus, a lot of people flock to that type, and claim it as their own. Of course, there is a possibility that they have simply been mistyped, but I think the former is more common.

Aaaand then you have the INTJ, which seems to harbor the racist, sexist bigot. Or does it really? INTJ is seen as the most "intellectual" to a lot of people, and rational, so people mistype themselves as such because they want to justify their irrational beliefs as rational. Protip: Your excessive amount of confirmation biases
doesn't make you very rational, you twit.

So very true. I recently got an ESFP (very little doubt in my mind) friend of mine to take the test. She was answering the questions according to her self-image. She came out as a solid ENFJ. We even went over a few of the questions to try to get her to see that she'd got the wrong end of the stick about what the question was actually getting at. She accepted that some of her answers should have been different. But she wouldn't have changed her answers to enough of the questions to change the result.

This is the big problem with self-assessment. To be accurate, the person needs to be
a) interested in ignoring their cherished self-image and delving into their innate preferences
b) able to discern the essence of the question rather than simply interpreting the literal words

Both of the above by definition come more naturally to intuitives than to sensors. This is why I think there are a lot of sensors out there with the mistaken belief that they're intuitives. Sensors are more likely to mistype themselves (especially along the N/S axis) than intuitives are.

Regarding the INTJ issue, the picture is a little more interesting. You say there are a lot of people out there with retrograde views who like the look of the INTJ type and use it as a fig leaf of intellect and rationality. The key thing here is you should have added speech marks around "rational" as well.

Rationality in the popular imagination is rather different from rationality in the Jungian sense. INTJs are Ni-doms! That's as irrational as it's possible to get. And there's no correlation between rationality and intellect in any event (unless we're nailing down exactly what mode of intellect).

The thing to note here is that Jungian irrationals (Ni-doms in particular) are probably less immune to the bigoted whackjob tendency than Jungian rationals.
Every function has a dark side. The tendency (if not disciplined by maturity and diversity of exposure and experience) towards implacable bigotry and conspiracy theory is Ni's curse.

 

[Cherry Cola]

The Facebook groups are fillled with S-types afaik.

 

[redbaron]

I'm INFT

 

[The Gopher]

The facebook groups are kinda wack.

 

[Brontosaurie]

quicktwist you_are_not an N. looking at your first reply in rhe thread about metaphysical determinism is enough.

 

[QuickTwist]

Bronto, link? I don't really care if I am an S or not, as long as it is a solid confirmation. I do doubt you can determine whether someone is an S based on one post, but regardless I would like to check it out.

 

[Brontosaurie]

Bronto, link? I don't really care if I am an S or not, as long as it is a solid confirmation. I do doubt you can determine whether someone is an S based on one post, but regardless I would like to check it out.

http://www.intpforum.com/showthread.php?t=20338

this is quintessential SJ-feign-N tripe

> do not comprehend abstract subject matter
> make some irrelevant distinctions involving many tidy words to appear knowledgable and investigative anyway
> betray deep desire for CONTROL and SECURE, DOGMATIC DEMARCATION and absolute need for convenient assumption as analytical starting point

what you did is basically like replying to "what is 1+1?" with "depends on what color objects we're talking about". maybe it was a joke.

 

[Black Rose]

Brontosauri,
How is N understand of reality rather than S understanding of it differ. I have come to realizes the subjective nature of Jungs methods thanks to Reluctantly. What models do S and N share?

 

[QuickTwist]

http://www.intpforum.com/showthread.php?t=20338

this is quintessential SJ-feign-N tripe

> do not comprehend abstract subject matter
> make some irrelevant distinctions involving many tidy words to appear knowledgable and investigative anyway
> betray deep desire for CONTROL and SECURE, DOGMATIC DEMARCATION and absolute need for convenient assumption as analytical starting point

what you did is basically like replying to "what is 1+1?" with "depends on what color objects we're talking about". maybe it was a joke.

I disregarded the example in search for a different point of view. I was under the assumption that the example could be anything pointing to anything. I just wanted clarification of what area of study we were talking about. TBH, I think your view of me is far too simplistic; give me some credit... sheesh. There is a lot more that goes on in my brain than you give me credit for. I also wanted to come up with a more interesting response than "yes, if you play it back and rewind it and play it forward again you will get the same result."

I don't really think you will agree with me on this but I still think that one post is not enough to get an accurate result of type, especially considering how short it was. If anything it was a lack of understanding of what was really being asked which does not necessarily equate to S or N.

 

[Cherry Cola]

Yes I'm sure he based his assessment on that one post only...

 

[QuickTwist]

Yes I'm sure he based his assessment on that one post only...

Well he did say I wouldn't have to look any further than that, and I am still not convinced. I think what you and bronto do is a gross misinterpretation of my intentions. It should go without saying that both of you think you know more than you really do. I expect that, you are both young and immature and think your the kings of the world.

[Edit] If you both really wanted to change my mind you would go about it in a different way instead of forcing the issue and getting me to be defensive in defending myself. With such force there is little reason to not see opposition. It is a natural tendency when force is applied to want to push back. This is a common principle. You must understand your accusations are not received simply because you lack the ability to conduct yourselves with a subtle suggestion but rather you chose dogmatic ruthlessness.

 

[scorpiomover]

What's the deal with this?

People are 50% ego and 50% truth.

I see way too many people representing themselves as an NT/NF (I'm looking at you INFJ) online like its going out of style. At this point I don't care what type I am as long as it is my true type. TBH I'm so sick of it every time see a blatant ESFP repping as an NT I throw up a little in my mouth.

You can bring a person to the truth, but you cannot make them accept it.

 

[scorpiomover]

http://www.intpforum.com/showthread.php?t=20338

this is quintessential SJ-feign-N tripe

> do not comprehend abstract subject matter
> make some irrelevant distinctions involving many tidy words to appear knowledgable and investigative anyway
> betray deep desire for CONTROL and SECURE, DOGMATIC DEMARCATION and absolute need for convenient assumption as analytical starting point

what you did is basically like replying to "what is 1+1?" with "depends on what color objects we're talking about". maybe it was a joke.

Except that most people were saying "Everything I've heard about science was said as if the universe is completely determinist. I have to re-interpret scientific laws and actual facts as if the world is completely determinist."

Do you even understand Heisenberg's problem?

Do any of you actually know anything about real particle physics?

He was willing to be open to a different POV.