Oy, look! A new member!

[Kianara]

Friends, Romans, and fellow countrymen!

Yeah, that just about took up all of my outgoing enthusiasm. Hello there. I am quite obviously new here. I'm also an INTJ on the INTP forum, so this should be quite intersting. I was referred by my real life friend Wisp, who insisted that the people here are actually somewhat intelligent and have good discussions. This remains to be seen.

I am a very pronounced I, though I grew up (and am still growing up in) an extroverted household. This has lead me to learn to speak up and out. I'm often mistaken for an extrovert, even though I have almost no social grace to speak of, because of my tendancy to be very outspoken. Foolish people believe there's no such thing as a loud inttrovert, fools.
I'm a very, very pronounced N, and find myself jumping from one topic to another in conversation. Its very common for me to say something I think is related to the conversation, only to have everyone look at me and ask, "How is that related?" It gets very tedious.
I'm a fairly pronounced T, which is out of the norm both in my Extroverted Feeling family and for my gender. People who have just met me and have any sort of preconceptions about how I'll be, because I'm a girl and the narrowminded idiots at my school assumes that means Feeling, are always caught off guard.
Lastly, there is my moderate J. I suppose this one is the reason I don't exactly fit in MBTI-wise here. I'm not a super-J though, I'm fairly disorganized and tend to ignore important deadlines. In my mind though, if my world was perfect, everything would be organized... I'm also a J in most other aspects of my life.

Well, that's me. Hello, INTP Forum! </enthusiasm>.wysiwyg { background-attachment: scroll; background-repeat: repeat; background-position: 0% 0%; background-color: #414141; background-image: none; color: #fdfdfd; font-family: Verdana, Arial, Arial; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: 400; font-size: 9pt; line-height: normal } p { margin: 0px; }

 

[mumblin]

umm.. that post is just too long, go away and come back when you've got less to say

 

[Linsejko]

Harsh.

Yes, I think I've heard Wisp talk of you- always mentioning his two INTP friends and his one INTX/INTJ.

I didn't realize it was a lady friend. Wisp, why you keeping the details from us? Huh? Yeah?

Speak up...

;P

mumblin seems to like starting trouble. Don't mind him. Long posts are by far more normal here than on your average forum; the INTP is prone to lengthy discussions of logic and reason behind every point, because of the depth behind decisions made.

In face to face interaction, this typically must be elicited by certain kinds of interaction; we, for the most part, keep to ourselves.

But here online, amongst so many who will be worthy of our thoughts, we speak quite verbosely.

You'll also find a great deal of correct grammar & spelling, another forum irregularity.

What's fascinating me lately is the elitism present in young INTPs especially, and many INTPs in general. Little value for people who lack intelligence. I mean this in an objective way of course.

Anyways, I hope I proved my point; welcome. May you see what you came to see.

.L

 

[WildC]

Linsejko, I'm not entirely sure if your statement about the devaluation of people who lack intelligence is true.
I would say there's a distinct difference between lack of intelligence and stupidity. It is the stupidity most seem to abhor. The way society (in some peoples eyes) turn everyone into mindless drones. Spouting non-factual claims and ridiculous ideas that have been spoonfed to the person from some other source. That kind of thing.

I have no more or less respect for people who are "less intelligent" (how is that measured anyways? Most of the people I meet possess an infinitely larger social understanding than I do, even if I may be able to calculate stuff they can't and see systems they don't), an individual's an individual, and as long as people don't toss out stuff that truly goes against my principles (implying that religion holds any validity outside of the personal sphere of any individual, for instance), my respect for them will be the same.

Edit: Welcome to the forums! I kind of ended up on a tangent there.

 

[Linsejko]

I do believe that a clearer evaluation of the state of things than I proposed. I stand corrected.

.L

 

[WildC]

Oh, by the way Leila. There's a big, redudant chunk of text at the end of your messages, which seems to be a misformat of some forum-code you may or may not be using.

"</enthusiasm>.wysiwyg { background-attachment: scroll; background-repeat: repeat; background-position: 0% 0%; background-color: #414141; background-image: none; color: #fdfdfd; font-family: Verdana, Arial, Arial; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: 400; font-size: 9pt; line-height: normal } p { margin: 0px; }"

 

[Wisp]

Yeah, WildC, when I was younger, I used to put in the terms of "intelligence is relative", as in the intelligence of each person is relative to that person's capacity for knowledge/brainpower/w.e. Making a person who works hard to understand but can't infinitely smarter than one who could understand, but won't, In very vague terms. That was an idea I played around with, and still keep, though in slightly revised terms, eg the meaning of "intelligence". Can't seem to find a fitting word. "Intelligent" is to limited, "worth" seems elitist.

And Lins,
We aren't romantically engaged, so what's the difference. I suppose you could argue that I had been keeping more from you if I had clammed any details of my existence in the first place, but w/e.

 

[Cabbo Pearimo]

Worth sounds dead on, to me.


Welcome, Leila. Pronounced 'lee-lah' or 'lay-lah'?

 

[Cabbo Pearimo]

The </enthusiasm> bit was a joke. "I no longer have to be enthusiastic" type of thing, but internet-speak.

 

[WildC]

Yeah, I figured Cabbo, but I just kept it in because it was not separated from the rest. Not that big a difference anyhow, omitted or not.

 

[loveofreason]

Hi Leila, never mind the mess.

I'm sure there's a thread around here somewhere *rustle shuffle search search search* that doesn't go off topic.... *frantic rustling*

oh well, maybe not. Wisp's hijacked the lot of them

Make yourself comfy anyways.

 

[Cabbo Pearimo]

Hey now, I do my fair share of hijackery.

 

[Wisp]

We cooperate in our hijackery (is that a word...?). And I'm 95% certain it's Lay-luh. Verbal conversations do that...

 

[loveofreason]

You're right Cabbo. I apologise.

And hereby recognise both yourself and Wisp as hijack-laureates of INTP forum.

Apologies to all the other worthy contenders that missed out

Now Leila, I return your thread to you.

 

[Cabbo Pearimo]

Leila, you got me on my knees...

No, it's not a word. But it damn well should be.

 

[Wisp]

Ah. I just realized.

"Friends, Romans, and fellow countrymen!"

*glares at Mark Antony*

 

[Ermine]

That speech was definitely my favorite part of Julius Caesar when it's recited with just the right emphasis.

 

[Linsejko]

Hmm.

Wisp, you serious? I'm so obviously egging you on, and you give me a serious response like that?

I'm let down, frankly.

Appears you'll have to prod your friend to return, though. Or she's just not on the intratubes very often.

.L

 

[VoidCrow]

Hi Leila,

Its very common for me to say something I think is related to the conversation, only to have everyone look at me and ask, "How is that related?" It gets very tedious.

I know that one all too well. It took me years to discover that for many people, my conversation largely appeared to be gibberish, because of this one trait.

I've not made any particular attempt to quantify the various proportions of I N T and P in my makeup. Do you have any useful links that might help in this regard?

Anyway, I'm new too.

Nice to meet you.