Out of rehab and full of stories

[gnome]

I don't know where to start. Met people hooked on air duster, heroin, opiates (pill form), cocaine, alcohol and anything in between. While in detox I met a bipolar girl who did so much MDMA in the last 8 months that she fried her brain. It was so fucking entertaining going to group meetings and watching her freak out because juice wasn't allowed. Bipolar chicks are hilarious. Went to a cocaine anonymous meeting and listened to a guy share his story of doing LSD, shrooms, DMT and everything in between. He cut his penis with garden sheers on 28g of psilocybin crystals he extracted from mushrooms himself. When the cops showed up he thought they were aliens and fought with them. His parents were shape shifters as well.

I shared my room with a successful 60 year old businessman who was also a severe alcoholic. One guy was around 40 and was hooked on pills and alcohol. He was up to 800mg of oxycontin a day. Several 19 year old gangster kids with tilted hats hooked on black tar heroin. One chick was like 60 and hooked on air duster. She was interesting. She thought she was better than everyone because she was rich and eventually left. She'd show up to the AA meetings wearing Mercedes Benz hats.

I've been consistently testing ENTP now that I have been sober. Not sure if I am cheating the test or what. Maybe now that I am in a group therapy atmosphere my true extroverted nature is coming out. I really don't care either way, just interesting that I have been consistently been testing extroverted. I think the drugs and alcohol isolated me so bad that I was testing introverted.

I guess if you have questions about any drug or want to hear more war stories ask. I have an abundance. So many that I can't really even think straight. If you're an alcoholic and you want a good place to hide your bottle so your mom/dad/girlfriend/boyfriend/roommates won't find it want to know the perfect spot? Under the lid behind the toilet.

 

[Cavallier]

If you're an alcoholic and you want a good place to hide your bottle so your mom/dad/girlfriend/boyfriend/roommates won't find it want to know the perfect spot? Under the lid behind the toilet.

I would have thought that would be too obvious though it has the added benefit of keeping your juice cold. Perhaps I've seen to many spy movies.

 

[Abraxas]

Entp gtfo!

It must be the therapy and the soberness that make you BEHAVE more like an extravert. That's the thing with MBTI tests that they tend to analyze more your behaviour than the way you actually process information. Although these two are obviously linked, but one can only speculate in terms of behaviour.

Oh and a 60-year old rich bitch hooked on gas dusters! I wonder what her standard day is like...?

 

[gnome]

Entp gtfo!

It must be the therapy and the soberness that make you BEHAVE more like an extravert. That's the thing with MBTI tests that they tend to analyze more your behaviour than the way you actually process information. Although these two are obviously linked, but one can only speculate in terms of behaviour.

Oh and a 60-year old rich bitch hooked on gas dusters! I wonder what her standard day is like...?

Well all I know is I went in to the ER blowing a 0.3% BAC and was completely coherent (I went in on my own btw). They detoxed me off of alcohol gradually over a week using benzos (librium). My brain has been pretty pickled the last 4 years mainly from alcohol. I would assume addiction can distort the way you answer questions on test. This is the longest I've been sober in a long ass time.

60 year old bitch was so fake it was unreal. She had fake tits, her face had tons of plastic surgery and she just seemed counterfeit. She tried to convince me she used to write for Rolling Stone. As far as her standard day goes I think she was doing like 16 bottles. She lost her kids and everything. She apparently would do Duster while driving her car. One day she passed out and hit a car. She came to and acted like it was an accident and they believed her because she wasn't drunk or anything.

Oh that reminds me one guy was 40 and had been drinking his entire life. He quit cold turkey. While driving his car he went into a grand mal seizure and apparently his wife somehow stopped the car from the passenger seat (not before he rear ended whoever was in front of him). For one full hour he had a crazy retard seizure on the side of the road in the middle of nowhere. Some weird ass New Mexico EMT's apparently tried to help him, but were underqualified. They had to helicopter his ass to the ER apparently. When he woke up the first thing he did was crawl (he couldn't walk) out of his bed and go to his wife's purse to down some oxycontin pills. This was a year ago and he is now in rehab for the second time.

 

[Dimensional Transition]

Sorry if I was supposed to know this... So, you were in rehab for alcoholism? I had no idea.
I'll definitely come up with some questions sometime.

 

[Da Blob]

BTW I am a Licensed drug and alcohol counselor (amongst other things)

If anyone has any questions feel free to PM me

 

[snafupants]

Three questions, what exactly led up to you checking yourself into rehab?

Second one, where there any handshake drug deals in the rehab facility?

Lastly, what do you do with the time where you would have been drinking before?

 

[gnome]

I checked into rehab because my drinking progressively always ends badly. I always end up in a ER and then a detox facility. This particular time I had the money to continue drinking, but knew inevitably I would end up in detox. This time my family got me to the right place. I went through this rehab facilities detox unit in 3 or so days. After that I checked myself into inpatient rehab. Right now I am doing partial rehab through them until Wednesday (8am-3pm treatment). Oh when I quit drinking I have seizures and DT's. Withdrawals are a part of why I am sobering up.

To fill the time I have been doing a lot of small things to keep my mind occupied. I have lifetime membership with a gym now that I can go to if I promise to remain sober. I play guitar and I have been going to the band rehearsal spot and cranking my amp up loud as fuck and riffing. I met a possible girlfriend in rehab which is bad news I know. She's a fellow alcoholic and did exactly what I did with her life when she hit the bottle and completely isolated herself. She's pretty hot and is insanely cool so that might occupy my time if we actually pursue a relationship. I know she wants a serious relationship, but I am told its best to have no relationships the first year sober. Also two alcoholics hooking up after just getting out of rehab is retarded. Might work out though who knows, I have her number just in case. I am uncertain her MBTI type, but my guess is ENTJ. Her and I actually have so much in common it scares me. If any of you *NTP dudes get a chance at getting with a ENTJ girl you're going to be stoked.

I didn't see any drug deals go down. One thing that the smokers were insane about was cigarettes. They did not allow cigarettes anywhere near the facility. Smokers were only given nicotine gum and patches. When they wanted to smoke they had to get creative or use chew on the side. Someone stole a guy's smokes and I remember him going insane. Some lady got caught smoking within 20 minutes of checking into rehab. She was in the bathroom. They kicked her ass out of rehab first day.

 

[GYX_Kid]

shit dude.

ENTJ girl? that's an idea. i usually to whatever degree end up admiring and/or hating ENTJ males. a girl could be awesome, i'm curious and interested in that.

any amphetamine junkies?

can't overdo gym and guitar, that's one certainty

Entp gtfo!

It must be the therapy and the soberness that make you BEHAVE more like an extravert. That's the thing with MBTI tests that they tend to analyze more your behaviour than the way you actually process information. Although these two are obviously linked, but one can only speculate in terms of behaviour.

aren't I/E and P/J more malleable in terms of consciously controllable behavior, even though they're (i think) based on orientation of perspective?

 

[gnome]

shit dude.

ENTJ girl? that's an idea. i usually to whatever degree end up admiring and/or hating ENTJ males. a girl could be awesome, i'm curious and interested in that.

any amphetamine junkies?

can't overdo gym and guitar, that's one certainty



aren't I/E and P/J more malleable in terms of consciously controllable behavior, even though they're (i think) based on orientation of perspective?

Not sure if she's ENTJ yet. I know for sure she's E**J. She's impossible to offend. I can say anything and she doesn't take it serious. I am pretty sure she's NT because we have the exact same humor and quick wit.

No amphetamine junkies other than me if you count my last adderall binge. Somewhere around 600mg of pills gone in a week or two. They usually tell amphetamine junkies to gtfo because withdrawal isn't severe. Benzo/alcohol leads to seizures and death. Opiates are severely unpleasant and can be treated. Amphetamine users just need to sleep a few days so most don't check themselves in. Plus it was 9 grand for two weeks and I doubt a meth user would have that. I only paid 1 grand due to health insurance.

 

[GYX_Kid]

I know for sure she's E**J. She's impossible to offend. I can say anything and she doesn't take it serious.

holy shit

 

[Abraxas]

I know for sure she's E**J. She's impossible to offend. I can say anything and she doesn't take it serious.

Definetly not an E*FJ. I'm in a relationship with an ENFJ. She's easily offended and takes most of the things seriously I say to her.

I'm pretty sure I used to date an ENTJ chick a couple of years back...man we had some fun times together!!! I can assure you if it doesn't turn too serious, you probably won't regret a day spent with her.

 

[Solitaire U.]

BTW I am a Licensed drug and alcohol counselor (amongst other things)

If anyone has any questions feel free to PM me

Being licensed doesn't necessarily mean you're qualified...list your drug of choice and years of sobriety please.

No amphetamine junkies other than me if you count my last adderall binge. Somewhere around 600mg of pills gone in a week or two.

Dabbler.

They usually tell amphetamine junkies to gtfo because withdrawal isn't severe.

You're not in a rehab facility...the last time I was in rehab (I'm a meth lifer) they didn't let me out of detox for 11 days, which I remember because it kinda pissed me off that the drunks were filtering through in 5 or less. I'd advise double checking wherever you were, because only a clown house would follow such a ridiculous detox philosophy for 'mine junkies'.

Plus it was 9 grand for two weeks and I doubt a meth user would have that. I only paid 1 grand due to health insurance.

Hell, we just hit up the 19 year old black tar heroin addicts...they got cash falling out of their assholes. Seriously, you're getting ripped-off. The last rehab I attended was a 45 day inpatient program. Really nice digs too...a desert ranch type place where the patients were totally responsible for the upkeep and maintenance, including running the kitchen and even picking up supplies/driving patients to off-site meetings in the facility vehicles. The intake staff and councilors were all recovering addicts as well, and everything from work detail to which councilor's group you joined was decided based on individual strengths/abilities and drug of choice (which ideally should match the DOC of your primary councilor).

Just this aspect taught me a lot. For example, I was elected to the position of Sergent at Arms...an authority figure position I had never considered myself cut out for (I did and still do loathe the very idea of enforcement, in fact). When I asked why I'd even been nominated for the post, my brothers told me it was because it was a post befitting someone as fair and objective as I am...INTP FTW, who'd a thunk it, eh?

Of course, I was using again a week after I finished the program, but it was never my intention to quit. I tried and failed that the first time around, and this time I wanted to aim for something I truly desired and believed I could achieve...to use responsibly...to be a junkie of substance. The Ranch was instrumental in guiding me onto that path, and I think it's an ironic shame that I have to be a statistical representation of it's failure to 'make me sober'. Functional addiction is a higher goal than either abstinence or abuse.

Anyway, the total cost for that 45 days was exactly 0. All NPO rehabs in California maintain a ratio of free beds and convict beds (beds reserved for the state's diversion programs for non-violent drug offenders...like your 19 year old heroin user pals for example) to their normal paid/insured beds...they must do this to receive State funding. What I did to get into the Ranch was put my name on their free-bed waiting list and then called the intake councilor every day to remind him of how much I wanted that bed and otherwise bother the crap out of him so he'd remember me. Less than 2 weeks of that and I was in. The procedure may have changed or may be different in your jurisdiction, but it's the way it worked in mine ten years ago. At any rate, none of this applies to private for-profit rehabs or afterthought 'medical center rehab programs', both of which are typically staffed by mere practitioners rather than artists and are apt to discriminate based on the screwability-factor of their prospective clients' insurance to maintain their ridiculously high overheads.

Not sure what your long term goals are (and neither are you...don't lie), but at least you're now aware that it might be possible to save your parents a thousand bucks next time around with a little initiative and a little legwork on your part. FWIW, I also suggest forgetting about rich-bitch dusters, potential girlfriends and speculative judgments of everyone else's situation and focus on working your own program instead...a cardinal rule of rehab that your 12-step nazi friends can explain to you if it doesn't already ring a bell. No offense mind you...just some tips to help you avoid wasting time from someone who has spent most of his life...wasted.