Ontological reason for hating homsexuality

[Rebis]

Why is the hatred of homosexuality so prevalent across the world?
Is it truly just socialised through Religion and society, or does it prevail regardless of these institutions?
Do you think it's simply a distortion of the behaviour they expect a person to exhibit, simply being dissonance?

 

[Rebis]

Ontological in the sense something that feels natural but breaks apart when analysed. For example, universal morality, food cravings and information based on analogical reasoning.

 

[Ex-User (14663)]

christianity in general starts with the assumption that a human is a sickly animal that needs to be rectified in all kinds of ways, so I can see how they in their indiscriminate pursuit of afflictions (as it were) included homosexuality in their list. To me it's obviously a cultural thing, indeed having roots in religion.

 

[Rebis]

christianity in general starts with the assumption that a human is a sickly animal that needs to be rectified in all kinds of ways, so I can see how they in their indiscriminate pursuit of afflictions (as it were) included homosexuality in their list. To me it's obviously a cultural thing, indeed having roots in religion.

I think it might be an emulation problem too, especially in people that have a iq lower than 100, 90, 80... We learn through mimicry which is emulation and maybe they find it difficult to emulate sexual interests that are not native to themselves. Like the fact developing children can not emulate the visual perspective of others until the age of 5, maybe they too find it hard to abstract sexual interests that are not native to them. They have little imagination for stuff they can't experience, feel or think, that imagination leads them to rely on themselves as an axis for what is good and bad.

An analogy:

The low IQ bully says something, he assumes it to have one meaning. When the nerdy kid is confused because he understands there is a few inteprretations of what that statement meant. When the bully sees the nerd visibly confused he laughs, thinking the kid is silly, he doesn't understand how to socialise. In actuality, the nerd only asked what he meant was because there was more than one interpetation, but the bully didn't know that. He thought there was only one meaning, because that's all he could think about.

Wittgenstein is on my mind a lot recently, so I'll paraphrase the first few lines of Tractatus Logico Philosophicus:

The world is all that is the case.
The world is the totality of facts, not of things.
The world is determined by the facts, and by their being all the facts.

The world, determined by the bully is all that he knows. with a low ability to learn he is reluctant to ideas that aren't intuitive to him. The bully judges the world by what he knows, and thus he determines for the world to be correct must be based on his subjective interpretation of the world. I am right, you are wrong.

 

[Deleted member 1424]

What about all the bullying that goes on in Mensa and similar high iq societies?
I'm just a low iq smooth brain normie, so I don't pretend to understand subtleties of cranial colonic obstruction, but I hear it's a severe problem.

 

[Rebis]

What about all the bullying that goes on in Mensa and similar high iq societies?
I'm just a low iq smooth brain normie, so I don't pretend to understand subtleties of cranial colonic obstruction, but I hear it's a severe problem.

I've known a lot of Mensans, they don't act like that because of their IQ it has to do with their personality. While they're young they may seek superiority, expected of a kid that's percieved as incompetent and needing to be fended for, but I've rarely senses superiority complexes at least externalised. A lot of them are quite anxious because they feel incompetent due to seeing the achievements of others, like einstein being reductive to IQ (Einstein had an IQ of 160, Feymann 125 and I do fuck all!). These people are expected to be geniuses revolutionizing the field and are seen as potential wasters if they don't achieve the goals society projects on them.

IQ just measures your ability to learn information fast, it leaves a lot of spheres in intelligence out of the equation. If someone was to check answers in an IQ test or see different ways at translating vector matrices, they will not have a sense to pick the obvious answer, instead evaluating 8-10 answers incase there was a logical discrepancy between a rotational translation. If someone has built up a cognitive model where they think of everything deeply, as speed is translated for accuracy and depth, then they can't just switch it off at the press of a button.

Here's a link between MENSA applicants and personality functions:

Population wise, INTJ, ISTJs make up a large part of mensa, INTP membership is lower and any Prosective function is incredibly inferior. As you can see Prospective function vs Judgement Function is inferior, probably because you're not taking the first answer you see as correct. Retraining your cognitive model to not think about stuff deeply is hard, nevermind switching it off for a whole two hours of doing the test. You are the logician after, you dissect everything no matter the practical significance.

 

[Black Rose]

Think about kissing someone of the same gender or someone you find unattractive. There are few men I would kiss because I find only certain kinds of men attractive, same for women. I would be downright disgusted with certain people if I had to kiss them (male or female). It is a natural thing to have a preference, to be disgusted or attracted. Preference for or against homosexuality is a visceral gut-level reaction. It depends on how you feel. It's not some intellectualized thing, it is in the gut.

The same reason homosexuals prefer the same gender as themselves is the reason heterosexuals prefer the opposite gender. It is biological and disgust is biological. Some homosexuals are disgusted by heterosexual couples. It's just part of biology. People that are fine with homosexuality also have a weak reaction to it. There is no reason to be offended if you do not feel offended. Not just some high IQ person.

 

[Perfectly Normal Beast]

i think it is sometimes the product of rigid categorical thinking plus high disgust sensitivity

perhaps homosexuality can also be perceived (at some level) as a direct threat to personal genetic legacy, triggering feelings of hatred or fear

 

[Tenacity]