No such thing as 'Nothing' per Quantum Physics

[birdsnestfern]

"Nothing" doesn't exist. Instead, there is "quantum foam"

Quantum physics shows that there is no such thing as "nothing." Even in a vacuum, particles can blink into and out of existence.

bigthink.com

 

[LOGICZOMBIE]

"Nothing" doesn't exist. Instead, there is "quantum foam"

Quantum physics shows that there is no such thing as "nothing." Even in a vacuum, particles can blink into and out of existence.

bigthink.com

logically speaking

there can be no such thing as "nothing"

"nothing" can only exist "nowhere" and at "no time" and occupy "no space"

 

[dr froyd]

Foam Theory

 

[birdsnestfern]

Emitted light gets shifted to larger wave lengths, and keeps shifting from particle to waves.
A bit like rootbeer foam bubbles popping, evervescing and refoaming, proven, no longer theory.
Yes, space time foam keeps folding in on itself and re-emerging.

Quantum foam - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

 

[birdsnestfern]

Time runs slower in a gravitational field. Gravity is the piece of time space that collapses the wave into a particle and the slowing down of it. Time can go backwards because gravity forces the two divergents to collapse into one classical reality from quantum reality. You have two realities, quantum and classical that dance around each other to create consciousness.

What is quantum information?

Quantum information breaks the rules of classical information in a way that could allow us to answer questions that a classical computer cannot.

www.symmetrymagazine.org

Great video, take it in pieces though, its a lot to listen to.

 

[sushi]

there is no theory of nothing as for now, the void remains a fascinating topic to explore.

 

[LOGICZOMBIE]

there is no theory of nothing as for now, the void remains a fascinating topic to explore.

"the void" does not and cannot "exist"

 

[ZenRaiden]

quantum quantum something something..... as much as mysticism goes quantum physics is the new metaphysics in sense.

I think it will be interesting in close future what quantum physics has to offer.
My biggest beef with quantum stuff its very sensationalized.

I like sensationalized science to a degree.

What seems to be the case with quantum stuff it goes closer to the heart of things.

What I really want to know if it will edge its way towards explaining things like gravity.
Unlocking gravity will unlock space travel.
Imagine gravity not being part of cosmic travel equations.

As for vacuum, physics, I think the question is how to really create vacuum.
As far as I know vacuum as such has never been studied under lab conditions.
Probably not possible to construct such a place on Earth.
Maybe in future when we have space stations far away from all the radiation in some deeper space like in Star Trek we can just construct a lab where there is nothing in vacuum chamber.
We still don't know how the known particles work and how the unknown or how many unknown particles there are.

 

[dr froyd]

I think we've reached a level where all we can do is to try combinations of everyday objects like strings, foams, shoelaces, cupcakes etc etc, and see if we can stuff them into various mathematical models to explain the universe.

 

[ZenRaiden]

I think we've reached a level where all we can do is to try combinations of everyday objects like strings, foams, shoelaces, cupcakes etc etc, and see if we can stuff them into various mathematical models to explain the universe.

I only realized few years ago that the documentaries and physics theories that often get passed as viable options are not even true. Like literally they just made them fit the data, but no one really knows whats going on.
There is ton of competing theories. So string theory does not exist. It just an idea that they throw around.
All these theories are crack pot theories that have been accepted as mainstream in science. I used to think they were serious about them.

 

[LOGICZOMBIE]

I only realized few years ago that the documentaries and physics theories that often get passed as viable options are not even true.

right, they're referred to as "models"

some are more useful than others

 

[Black Rose]

I only realized few years ago that the documentaries and physics theories that often get passed as viable options are not even true.

right, they're referred to as "models"

some are more useful than others

A lie-to-children is a simplified, and often technically incorrect, explanation of technical or complex subjects employed as a teaching method. Educators who employ lies-to-children do not intend to deceive, but instead seek to 'meet the child/pupil/student where she is', in order to facilitate initial comprehension, which they build upon over time as the learner's intellectual capacity expands. The technique has been incorporated by academics within the fields of biology, evolution, bioinformatics and the social sciences.

Lie-to-children - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

 

[ZenRaiden]

A lie-to-children is a simplified, and often technically incorrect, explanation of technical or complex subjects employed as a teaching method. Educators who employ lies-to-children do not intend to deceive, but instead seek to 'meet the child/pupil/student where she is', in order to facilitate initial comprehension, which they build upon over time as the learner's intellectual capacity expands. The technique has been incorporated by academics within the fields of biology, evolution, bioinformatics and the social sciences.

Yeah I think I have heard some science guy explain this pretty well.
Basically science needs to be sexy and interesting and have good PR.
Telling people that quantum physics is just equations upon equations would not translate to people being interested.
Would be like a financial expert talking about tax rules.
Or amazon guide telling you about the engineering schemas of a storage facility.
People would turn of the channel.
They talk inspiration, not the perspiration part. The dull and unsexy stuff.

 

[sushi]

I think the closest defintion of nothingness is massless or lack of mass and substance.

then again i cannot tell the difference between mass and substance.

otherwise it becomes difficult to define.

 

[LOGICZOMBIE]

I think the closest defintion of nothingness is massless or lack of mass and substance.

then again i cannot tell the difference between mass and substance.

otherwise it becomes difficult to define.

"NOTHING" CAN ONLY BE "NOWHERE" AND HAVE "NO SHAPE" AND "NO SIZE"

THERE IS LITERALLY NO SUCH THING AS "NOTHING"

 

[ZenRaiden]

THERE IS LITERALLY NO SUCH THING AS "NOTHING"

I never saw nothing,
I never known nothing,
I never felt nothing,
and it never happened, and it was amazing.

I think the concept of nothing is not that confusing if we don't think about it much.

 

[LOGICZOMBIE]

THERE IS LITERALLY NO SUCH THING AS "NOTHING"

I never saw nothing,
I never known nothing,
I never felt nothing,
and it never happened, and it was amazing.

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I think the concept of nothing is not that confusing if we don't think about it much.

bingo

 

[birdsnestfern]

: ) Ya'll - are giving the INTP group good Laughs today! Lol, Thank you!

 

[Old Things]

I think we've reached a level where all we can do is to try combinations of everyday objects like strings, foams, shoelaces, cupcakes etc etc, and see if we can stuff them into various mathematical models to explain the universe.

Ever been to the ocean? I hear it is Big! We should name something after water. Like liquid waves or something.

 

[birdsnestfern]

Its all or nothing...

 

[Black Rose]

String theory was contemplated by Gottfried Wilhelm Leibniz and then Georg Wilhelm Friedrich Hegel as the transposition of information in a simulation. Of course, because String theory can have 10^500 possible models we still do not know why the standard model is the one we have. But the multiverse is more or less only possible at the micro level of reality and not the macro level as portrayed in the movies.

 

[sushi]

the opposite of nothing is obvious a thing or something

the nothing or space= something we have yet to discover

what is a thing then, how to define it?

but its perhaps true everything emerges and arise from nothingness before the big bang.