Neptune water planet and water deity

[computerhxr]

Is it a coincidence?

The Romans named the five planets closest to the Sun after their most important gods. These were the only planets that were bright enough for them to see. Later, when telescopes were used, other planets were discovered. Astronomers decided to continue naming the planets after Roman Gods. Neptune was named after the Roman god of the sea.

 

[Seteleechete]

Blue?

 

[computerhxr]

Blue?

Yes, it is blue but they would have no idea that this meant that it was made of water. It's a good point though and I'm wondering if they was the deciding factor or if there's something more to it?

 

[computerhxr]

What about this... (Greek mythology)

Saturn (Cronus) consumed his children.

The planet is gas, and there is a solid mass inside of it. Almost like a gas planet consumed a solid planet.

What about Astrology, Saturn is the planet of lessons. It teaches reality. The rings around the planet are very uniform. If you imagine that the rings are physical reality, and the space is possibilities, then it would appear to be metaphorically similar.

My thought is that history or possible DNA history creates a natural intuition allowing us to understand things that we have very little to no information about. So if DNA records history as it evolves, then would it give us a natural intuitive historical reference for reality?

 

[Seteleechete]

See blue --> think of water, 5 first planets Roman gods --> see pattern --> want to continue pattern, Neptune most closely referenced to blue because water is also blue --> name planet after Neptune. This is assuming they saw the blue colour before naming it. The other possible scenario is see pattern of Roman gods --> name after random Roman god though this is less likely(unless they didn't know it was blue beforehand).

 

[Seteleechete]

My thought is that history or possible DNA history creates a natural intuition allowing us to understand things that we have very little to no information about. So if DNA records history as it evolves, then would it give us a natural intuitive historical reference for reality?

Well genes do pass on instincts and a lot about how we are formed which is based in what happened with our ancestors. We understand a lot intuitively as we are born afterall.

 

[computerhxr]

Well genes do pass on instincts and a lot about how we are formed which is based in what happened with our ancestors. We understand a lot intuitively as we are born afterall.

It's a historical manifest of a past set of conditions. If the history was different, then the DNA manifest would contain a different set of data. Chaos theory is a good example because there is an anchor (reality) and chaos (possible alternate realities had the conditions changed). So our current reality is a manifestation of past realities.

Going off of what I just said, then what if the water on Earth originated from Neptune. We would retain the historical anchor, and the chaos that it took to create earth the creatures that inhabit it. So is it possible that we have some intuitive information passed down from Neptune from a past reality?

 

[Seteleechete]

Sure, but i'll give it a similar probability as the existence of the Christian god.

 

[redbaron]

There's a lot of places more likely than Neptune that water on Earth could have originated from.

In fact, how would two bodies orbiting so far apart exchange water?

The likelihood of exchanging matter between even our moon is incredibly remote, how would Neptune manage it?

 

[computerhxr]

There's a lot of places more likely than Neptune that water on Earth could have originated from.

In fact, how would two bodies orbiting so far apart exchange water?

The likelihood of exchanging matter between even our moon is incredibly remote, how would Neptune manage it?

How did water get on Earth to begin with? The source of the water may be common, before space-time expanded to the form it takes today. Maybe our water has a common ancestor as space evolved.

I could think of more than one way. What about electromagnatism? The force of the water may affect the DNA mutations even from great distance. It would have a very very very very (and so on...) small affect, but Neptune does "naturally" affect things on Earth. Over a great period of time, including chaos, the effects of the insignificant force would be great.

Maybe when a comet passes between the Sun and Earth, the water is projected into our planet. As a comet travels though space, it collects any free floating water particles from another space-time. Basically, it's a form of reproduction. Collecting DNA information from one place in space-time and distributing it amongst everything that it passes.

Also, if you continue with electromagnatism, and the fact that everything affects everything to some varying degree. Then you can say that there is a second force applied when a mass transfers information from one node, which affects another node.

 

[Pizzabeak]

Not sure how much water there is on the outer planets but probably not much. There's probably more in the inner layers rather than in the outer, atmosphere, which is the part that has been analyzed. Obviously the blue hue could have reminded them of water and influenced the name more. Don't think it was much of a surprise after having been analyzed that they are made mostly of methane, which is apparently responsible for the blue-ish colors... The two outer planets are considered snow giants and reportedly have iron metal cores at the base and are surrounded by sludgy material revolving around H, He, N, CH4, and a little NH3 as well as probable scant amounts of H2O and other trace materials, not necessarily icy. According to most models of solar system formation there could have been a lot more exchange during the earlier days considering the similar origin. Even later on collisions and other forms of transfer were still semi frequent. Bodies ended up with their designated proportions. Although, I wouldn't consider the trades between proto Earth and Neptune to be of much a dealbreaker. A type of morphic resonance idea has been proposed before. Would be interesting to see more of how that works. Probably not the same thing but there was that time the monkeys learned how to use tools after one monkey obtained the skill, then the whole village seemed to have gained an idea how to perform the same task.

 

[computerhxr]

^ Well said! Thanks for the added information.

 

[Cognisant]

If you want a history related conspiracy theory consider that the ancient Greeks were making metal gears which would had to have been fairly precise to be used in astronomical clocks.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Antikythera_mechanism

It doesn't sound very impressive until you try to make precise gears with a hammer and anvil, which is impossible, and casting doesn't work very well either because the metal shrinks as it cools. So it seems the ancient Greeks may have had some kind of mechanical lathe which in turn implies they were on the brink of industrialization, had there been readily accessible coal in Greece the industrial revolution may well have occurred there first.

Imagine where we would be with another +2000 years of industrial progress behind us...

 

[computerhxr]

If you want a history related conspiracy theory consider that the ancient Greeks were making metal gears which would had to have been fairly precise to be used in astronomical clocks.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Antikythera_mechanism

It doesn't sound very impressive until you try to make precise gears with a hammer and anvil, which is impossible, and casting doesn't work very well either because the metal shrinks as it cools. So it seems the ancient Greeks may have had some kind of mechanical lathe which in turn implies they were on the brink of industrialization, had there been readily accessible coal in Greece the industrial revolution may well have occurred there first.

Oh, this is awesome!

What I think is important is that their greatest intellectuals devised a mechanical clock for Astrological purposes.

Imagine where we would be with another +2000 years of industrial progress behind us...

We would probably all be dead.

 

[_cdub]

We would probably all be dead.

Or living 150 years with nano bot doctors in our bloodstream.

Now that I think about it, the waste might have been much worse without better technology to know that it is bad (in a non obvious way).

 

[Sinny91]

What about this... (Greek mythology)

Saturn (Cronus) consumed his children.

The planet is gas, and there is a solid mass inside of it. Almost like a gas planet consumed a solid planet.

What about Astrology, Saturn is the planet of lessons. It teaches reality. The rings around the planet are very uniform. If you imagine that the rings are physical reality, and the space is possibilities, then it would appear to be metaphorically similar.

My thought is that history or possible DNA history creates a natural intuition allowing us to understand things that we have very little to no information about. So if DNA records history as it evolves, then would it give us a natural intuitive historical reference for reality?

Here's some Saturn symbology



I'm yet to investigate, but I too would like to know the origins of the planet names. Were the stars named after the God's, or the God's named after the stars?

Here's the 'Eye of God' on Saturn.



Stanley Kubricks Monolith was originally supposed to be on Saturn, but he was ordered to change planets for final production.



It is thought by some that the Tawaf ritual around the Kaaba is an imitation of the eye of Saturn. Notice the design of the Black Stone set in silver, and it's imitation of the Sacred Feminine.

The*Black Stone*(or*Hajarul Aswad,*Arabic:الحجر الأسود‎*al-Ḥajar al-Aswad) is the eastern cornerstone of the*Kaaba, the ancient stone building, located in the center of the*Grand Mosque*in*Mecca,*Saudi Arabia. It is revered by Muslims as an*Islamic*relic which, according to Muslim tradition, dates back to the time of*Adam and Eve.[1]

The stone was venerated at the Kaaba in pre-Islamic pagan times. According to Islamic tradition, it was set intact into the Kaaba's wall by the*Islamic*prophet*Muhammad*in the year 605 A.D., five years before his*first revelation. Since then it has been broken into a number of fragments and is now cemented into a silver frame in the side of the Kaaba. Its physical appearance is that of a fragmented dark rock, polished smooth by the hands of pilgrims. Islamic tradition holds that it fell from the heaven as a guide for Adam and Eve to build an altar, although it has often been described as a*meteorite, a hypothesis, which is now uncertain.[2]

Muslim pilgrims circle the Kaaba as a part of the*tawaf*ritual during the*hajj*and many try to stop and kiss the Black Stone, emulating the kiss that Islamic tradition records as it received from Muhammad.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Black_Stone

 

[Pizzabeak]

I know in the book the monolith is on Iapetus but for the movie it's just said that he went with (the moons of) Jupiter to "avoid confusion". The movie Silent Running is set around Saturn though. Would like to get more into this perhaps later but have some errands that need completing.

 

[Sinny91]

I know in the book the monolith is on Iapetus but for the movie it's just said that he went with (the moons of) Jupiter to "avoid confusion". The movie Silent Running is set around Saturn though. Would like to get more into this perhaps later but have some errands that need completing.

Stanley Kubrick, Saturn and the Black Cube
http://thetruthseekersguide.blogspot.co.uk/2014/02/the-stanley-kubrick-conspiracy-part-7.html?m=1

2001 as Propaganda. (A thread I'm making a note of to read)
http://kubrickon.com/maze/viewtopic.php?f=1&t=17

Iapetus is another strange place

Spoiler

Buzz Aldrin claims that there is a monolith on Phobos.

 

[Sinny91]

There's a lot of places more likely than Neptune that water on Earth could have originated from.

In fact, how would two bodies orbiting so far apart exchange water?

The likelihood of exchanging matter between even our moon is incredibly remote, how would Neptune manage it?

Er, we've had heavy lifter rockets for moon exchanges for ages. They are called Aquila, Starcraft Boosters Inc.

Never mind the Black Ops craft

Here's another Star Craft Boosters project;
https://www.google.co.uk/url?sa=t&s...YRqDTa_R1kOcx5qDA&sig2=FWXZemsW0-bp6j7FBQ-Jig

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gX6BLJ-ytI8

SKYLON
http://www.reactionengines.co.uk/space_skylon.html

So far, I've read that the planets were named after the God's.
But I suspect they are one and the same.

(Notes to self).
Chaos (The Void) parent of Chronus (Erebus) parent of Aether (Aether) parent of Caelum (Uranus) parent of Cronus (Saturn), Janus & Ops.
Cronus is parent of Neptūnus (Neptune), Jupiter, Pluto, Juno, Ceres and Vesta.

Spoiler

The divine spatial abstraction*Caelum*is asynonym*for*Olympus*as a*metaphoricalheavenly abode of the divine, both identified with and distinguished from the*mountain in ancient Greece*named as the home of the gods. Varro says that the Greeks call Caelum (or Caelus) "Olympus."[15]*As a representation of space, Caelum is one of the components of the*mundus, the "world" or*cosmos, along withterra*(earth),*mare*(sea), and*aer*(air).[16]*In his work on the*cosmological*systems of antiquity, the*Dutch Renaissance*humanistGerardus Vossius*deals extensively with Caelus and his duality as both a god and a place that the other gods inhabit.[17]

This is interesting, might suggest why some consider Saturn to be Satan.

Saturn had two consorts who represented different aspects of the god. The name of his wife*Ops, the Roman equivalent of GreekRhea, means "wealth, abundance, resources."[3]*The association with Ops though is considered a later development, as this goddess was originally paired withConsus.[4]*Earlier was Saturn's association with*Lua*("destruction, dissolution, loosening"), a goddess who received the bloodied weapons of enemies destroyed in war.[5]

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Saturn_(mythology)

It's believed in some circles that a Saturnian religion lives on today.
Especially by those in positions of space militrisation,Saturn V rockets, anyone?

 

[Sinny91]

Here's a cool theory about Saturn being Earth's Original Sun:
http://forum.davidicke.com/showthread.php?t=176274

It is known as Cronus, in honour of Chronus, as Saturn's rings are the Keepers of Time.

 

[computerhxr]

So far, I've read that the planets were named after the God's.
But I suspect they are one and the same.

I tend to think of stars and planets as abstract forms of psychology. They somehow represent real modalities.

I find it interesting that Saturn has a hexagon in the bottom. It would make sense why they might think it's demonic. lol It it also the most efficient shape, which is why bees use them.

Oh yeah, and this...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fvdmISdytXg

A hex is a cube in another dimension. It's also the golden ratio.

Here's another video (less preachy):

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_MJTb4cAcTc

 

[Sinny91]

I love this shit. Its just gone 6.11am in the UK, I should have been asleep hours ago, but I've just downloaded a new book.. If you don't mind me high jacking your thread for other celestial endeavors, i'll return to the subject another time.

Yea, hexagon.. the cube... lots could be said.. carry on Hrx, it would be nice to log in with my morning (hark! *afternoon* coffee) and see a subject I enjoy being written about by somebody else for once lol.

 

[computerhxr]

I love this shit. Its just gone 6.11am in the UK, I should have been asleep hours ago, but I've just downloaded a new book.. If you don't mind me high jacking your thread for other celestial endeavors, i'll return to the subject another time.

Yea, hexagon.. the cube... lots could be said.. carry on Hrx, it would be nice to log in with my morning (hark! *afternoon* coffee) and see a subject I enjoy being written about by somebody else for once lol.

Oh, you don't want to see all the crazy ideas that I have about this stuff. It really makes sense to me. There is a link between geometry and psychology.

I started wondering about ancient understandings, and how everything sort of points to this hex. It really got me thinking about Astrology and how it's related to psychology. Wondering if the stars are abstract manifestations of psychological narratives that everything can understand. I really think narratives are the core way that people understand concepts because everyone has that internal (inner voice) narrative. It's the one that is most susceptible to persuasion and also the best model to communicate.

So basically, the hex is one frequency of thought. I'm guessing we would live more like bees if we followed natures suggestion. In Astrology, Saturn is the planet of lessons. So it's trying to teach us to be more social and hive oriented. Humans thrive on community which is why we've achieved so much. Not much could be done alone.

 

[Sinny91]

I tend to think of stars and planets as abstract forms of psychology. They somehow represent real modalities.

I find it interesting that Saturn has a hexagon in the bottom. It would make sense why they might think it's demonic. lol It it also the most efficient shape, which is why bees use them.

Oh yeah, and this...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fvdmISdytXg

A hex is a cube in another dimension. It's also the golden ratio.

Here's another video (less preachy):

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_MJTb4cAcTc

Sacred Geometry and Metatrons Cube:
http://www.thelivingmoon.com/forum2/index.php?topic=4968.0