My correct type is TeNi.

[PmjPmj]

I'm sure nobody gives a shit (you heartless gits) but yeah, there it is. It's as clear as day to me now.

BRB - doing all of the things / securing a higher income.

 

[Puffy]

This is news?

(My condolences to your fellow workers.)

 

[washti]

so you are not pygmy jerk anymore big jerk time.

 

[PmjPmj]

This is news?

You knew?!

so you are not pygmy jerk anymore big jerk time.

I'm actually rather polite IRL. Honest.

 

[Reluctantly]

Yay. I like "real" ENTJs.
The most reasonable, sensible, and down-to-earth people I've ever met.

 

[PmjPmj]

My reasonableness is a noted trait, actually.

I think ENTJs get a bad reputation because the stereotypes are often nonsense.

 

[Hadoblado]

Where's that thread where I doubted someone's newfound type based on their previously unassailable confidence that they were something else? I need to copy and paste it for unrelated reasons

Not that it doesn't fit I guess...

think ENTJs get a bad reputation because the stereotypes are often nonsense.

You must be confident, you're already preemptively defending your new in-group

 

[PmjPmj]

I married one, so I have to

It makes more sense than NiTe. Much more. I realised that I was confusing long term depression (among other things) with a preference for introversion. TBF, I assumed for quite a while that I was actually an extrovert. When you consider how I was as a kid etc., and my clear preferences as an adult... yeah.

Also, Fi inferior.

Balls deep.

 

[redbaron]

Lol nerd

Go tell your business plans

(jks love u pmj xoxoxo)

 

[PmjPmj]

I duno y u haev to rip me all the tiem.

i just want ur respek man.

y u hurt me? ;_;

 

[The Gopher]

I'm so proud of you. I recently came out as an extrovert recently as well. My friends have been very supportive but they said they always knew. My family is more sceptical.

 

[cheese]

What caused this realisation, and what specific things did you realise?

 

[PmjPmj]

I'm so proud of you. I recently came out as an extrovert recently as well. My friends have been very supportive but they said they always knew. My family is more sceptical.

We can stand proud. Together.

What caused this realisation, and what specific things did you realise?

I've long suspected my preference for E, but it has been more notable over the past 12 months or so. For a start, working alone on a remote site has driven me up the wall. Rather than being my usual proactive / high energy self, I've slowly stopped giving a shit about everything. The second I'm working with others, my energy comes back and I'm most often quick to take charge of a situation and make sure shit gets done.

Then there's the fact that I get depressed AF when the wife / kids go to Spain during the holidays. Having an empty, quiet home? It's ok for a few hours here and there, but it soon becomes crippling.

My introverted friends tend to love staying indoors. They will happily remain in their own company for days at a time, ensuring that absolutely nothing interrupts them whilst they recharge.

Me?

"Oh, I have some free time. Let's book that shit right up with lots of social engagements and travel!"

If I'm indoors alone for more than a few hours, I start going crazy.

Depression and general knackerdness (kids will do that to you) obfuscated this otherwise blatantly clear preference for some time, because I was just on my knees with exhaustion. Now things are getting a little easier though, my energy is coming back. Fact is, I'm starting to realise that I'm actually more extroverted than my wife.

Plus, looking back at my childhood reveals a lot. I was always a bolshy little twat. Taking charge / ordering people about. Serious and confident.

IDK. I think sometimes we perceive ourselves so very incorrectly. The more I speak to people, the more I realise that I actually fit the stereotypes quite well. I simply lost my spark for a while because life happens, etc.

In work ATM so I'm just shooting from the hip (something I do a lot; I'm far more reactive than introspective - another thing worth bearing in mind) so I hope that'll suffice for now.

[EDIT] With the exception of two friends, everybody thinks I'm an extrovert - from my wife to people I have worked with for 7+ years. Colleagues in particular find the thought of me being an introvert to be quite amusing.

 

[QuickTwist]

I'm actually rather polite IRL. Honest.

But people never know it because you have that ice cold stare amirite?

 

[PmjPmj]

What ice cold stare? I'm all rainbows and sunshine ^____^

 

[QuickTwist]

What ice cold stare? I'm all rainbows and sunshine ^____^

You make me feel like I am a poor judge of character. How does that make you feel?

Look at us, talking about emotions and shit. We're just two peas in a pod I tell ya.

 

[Black Rose]

pmj, usually the inferior function leads to addictions the function is prone to. Is there anything you notice that would be suppressed Fi trying to let loose in you? And do you get into the Te - Se loop? How does your Ni work as your auxiliary?

side note:

Any comments on what you think INTJ's are like now that you are ENTJ.

TheManByond said I must be Ni because I am extremely subjective and (Location: your heart) is opposite what Fe would be (Fi). so INTJ or ISFP. I cannot be ISFP because Se is suppressed in me. Must be INTJ. I was always inventing things as a kid. My thoughts were different from everyone else. I have over 1,200 pages of my ideas in 3 suitcases by my bed from age 19 and below. I see significance almost everywhere.

 

[TheManBeyond]

just a funny story guys
today i went to emergency cuz i've been feeling really dizzy since last night, and i had some beat in my ear, so i decided to check. thing is that they did some checking, they said my heartbeat was really fast, then put a lot of shit in my body for an electrocardiogram and then sent me to see a doctor. she said i had some infection in one of my ears but that i was fine, just nervous.
and yeah i was extremely nervous. i was afraid of being diagnosed with some awful shit.
it's not the first this sensation takes over me. it's the same vibe i get when i go on planes. it's hell.
if Jung was right then i must be a ENXP. cuz that's what he believes Si to be when repressed.

i also had a random vision of animekitty and so i told my sister: "i think i can control my heart frecuency with my mind" haha that was funny

 

[QuickTwist]

she said i had some infection in one of my ears but that i was fine, just nervous.
and yeah i was extremely nervous...

...if Jung was right then i must be a ENXP. cuz that's what he believes Si to be when repressed.

Cannot get over this. Are you always like this?

 

[TheManBeyond]

extremely nervous? just when i jump to a plane or when i finally decide to go to doctor for analytics.
no i'm not one of those who panic on exams or apocalypse.
most of the time i'm waaaay too relaxed,

 

[QuickTwist]

extremely nervous? just when i jump to a plane or when i finally decide to go to doctor for analytics.
no i'm not one of those who panic on exams or apocalypse.
most of the time i'm waaaay too relaxed,

You are impossible. If I think this, I cannot imagine what Cog thinks.

 

[Black Rose]

i also had a random vision of animekitty and so i told my sister: "i think i can control my heart frecuency with my mind" haha that was funny

The heart and brain can synch up together if you focus enough or actually just observe both working together by the breath. (I saw it in a presentation) I am so much in my head all the time I cannot feel my heart beat at all. In rare instances when I do feel my heartbeat it is incredible.

 

[PmjPmj]

pmj, usually the inferior function leads to addictions the function is prone to. Is there anything you notice that would be suppressed Fi trying to let loose in you?

Dunno. I occasionally like to zone out with euphoric dance music and feel all the feels. It's quite cathartic for me. Lets me go inward, and all that. As for addictions... I honestly don't really have any. Well, coffee aside.

I experience bouts of lust and other things allegedly associated with inferior Fi. I can go from 0-100 (feeling wise) if the appropriate buttons are pushed.

And do you get into the Te - Se loop?

I'll have to read up on it. Probably not today.

How does your Ni work as your auxiliary?

Allows me to consider alternative perspectives; allows me to see what is coming down the pike. I can usually see how things are going to work out long before anybody else can. The only people who trump me at this so far have been friends who I know for sure are Ni dominant.

Also, I have a very vivid imagination. Apparently that's normal for a Ni dom/aux.

side note:

Any comments on what you think INTJ's are like now that you are ENTJ.

The INTJs I know are a great deal more reflective than I am. In a working relationship, I get irritated by their lack of action (too much planning) whereas they get irritated by my need to jump in head first and refine as I go, believing my approach to be inefficient because maybe there's a better way which we haven't considered. Fuck that noise. If shit needs to be done, I get it done.

They tend to be a great deal deeper than me, too. I'm more proactive. They're more introspective. Slower to talk; slower to act - but always on point.

TheManByond said I must be Ni because I am extremely subjective and (Location: your heart) is opposite what Fe would be (Fi). so INTJ or ISFP. I cannot be ISFP because Se is suppressed in me. Must be INTJ. I was always inventing things as a kid. My thoughts were different from everyone else. I have over 1,200 pages of my ideas in 3 suitcases by my bed from age 19 and below. I see significance almost everywhere.

I dunno what any of that could mean. Just get friendly with someone who really knows their shit and have them type you, or something. Architect and Auburn did a fantastic job of typing me back in 2012. I was under the assumption that I was some kind of Fe snowflake. After sending them a video, the both of them were all "LOLNO. ENTJ. GTFO".

Or words to that effect.

 

[PmjPmj]

Waiting on something, so had a spare few minutes:

ENTJ Te-Se loop: An ENTJ in a Te-Se loop becomes power hunger, grabbing at anything that can bolster their image or control without considering the sensibility behind these actions, obsessing over ways to bolster this image through material goods and sensory experiences. They become overly concerned with “doing” all of the time, unable to let themselves stop to take a break. They become forceful, aggressive, insistent upon taking action whether or not it hurts those around them.

lolyes.

Usually it culminates in one hell of a comedown (burnt out / fatigued) and apologies to those I inadvertently shat on whilst in "Get the fuck out of my way" mode. But, it has to be said, the INTJ one resonated quite a bit as well. Something about focusing on what you want from life and all that.

I think that's more about where I'm up to in life rather than type, though.

 

[PmjPmj]

Shit.

What if INFP?

 

[Black Rose]

Shit.

What if INFP?

hugs are available between 5 and noon.

(relevant, contrast Te with Ne)
(Ne is not commanding like Te)
(Ne bores super fast once it figures something out)

INFP's need control when in Te grip.
Fi - Si loop needs security in familiar things.
Fi and Ne always looking for new things to love and hate.
Unlike ENFP's INFP's feel the need to have long experiences.
ENFP's is constantly looking and Fi Aux can't keep up.

 

[PmjPmj]

It was a joke. But thanks.

 

[TheManBeyond]

I sent a video to auburn. He said esfp.
A friend of him said estp.
I'm theoretically closer to be entp but feel like isfp

edit: actually auburn said estp could be too

 

[Pizzabeak]

You aren't close to being ENTP.

 

[PmjPmj]

I'm theoretically closer to be entp but feel like isfp

This guy.

 

[washti]

did auburn show his video?

 

[washti]

you send auburn your video and he typed you.
I asked if you saw his.

 

[TheManBeyond]

i saw some videos by him in youtube thought he looked like infp but can't recall that well
intp wouldn't be weird

 

[cheese]

Spoiler

I've long suspected my preference for E, but it has been more notable over the past 12 months or so. For a start, working alone on a remote site has driven me up the wall. Rather than being my usual proactive / high energy self, I've slowly stopped giving a shit about everything. The second I'm working with others, my energy comes back and I'm most often quick to take charge of a situation and make sure shit gets done.

Then there's the fact that I get depressed AF when the wife / kids go to Spain during the holidays. Having an empty, quiet home? It's ok for a few hours here and there, but it soon becomes crippling.

My introverted friends tend to love staying indoors. They will happily remain in their own company for days at a time, ensuring that absolutely nothing interrupts them whilst they recharge.

Me?

"Oh, I have some free time. Let's book that shit right up with lots of social engagements and travel!"

If I'm indoors alone for more than a few hours, I start going crazy.

Depression and general knackerdness (kids will do that to you) obfuscated this otherwise blatantly clear preference for some time, because I was just on my knees with exhaustion. Now things are getting a little easier though, my energy is coming back. Fact is, I'm starting to realise that I'm actually more extroverted than my wife.

Plus, looking back at my childhood reveals a lot. I was always a bolshy little twat. Taking charge / ordering people about. Serious and confident.

IDK. I think sometimes we perceive ourselves so very incorrectly. The more I speak to people, the more I realise that I actually fit the stereotypes quite well. I simply lost my spark for a while because life happens, etc.

In work ATM so I'm just shooting from the hip (something I do a lot; I'm far more reactive than introspective - another thing worth bearing in mind) so I hope that'll suffice for now.

[EDIT] With the exception of two friends, everybody thinks I'm an extrovert - from my wife to people I have worked with for 7+ years. Colleagues in particular find the thought of me being an introvert to be quite amusing.

Huh, interesting. And when you first joined the forum, you thought you were INTP, is that right? Quite a move, though I guess both are T-dominant.

It's interesting you now think you're more extroverted than your wife. I've found men tend to think they're more introverted than their wives/gfs, but that tends to be because they're less chatty/more independent. The thing about going crazy after being alone for too long rings true too. (I happily lived alone for years but now that I'm not it's obvious I was getting increasingly psychologically unhealthy.) I think every INTP who claims they could happily and easily live the rest of their lives in complete isolation should actually try living alone for an extended period. It's more likely they're currently in an unpleasant living situation than that they don't need other people. But then, I don't think that's necessarily specific to introversion vs extroversion; I think humans in general have evolved to need other people whether we're aware of it or not. (IIRC positive socialising influences our brains, hormones, stress levels etc in ways we're unable to do on our own - isolation is *physically bad* for us. Sure, introverts have a different sweet spot but that spot isn't 0. Also, interacting with others seems to help maintain our brains' ability to reality-check and not believe everything it comes up with - it protects against insanity. This was interesting to learn about.)

About your extroversion - is it more to do with other people, or with doing things? Or perhaps they're tied together as you implied - can't do things without other people around, but also can't not do things without getting irritated?

find the thought of me being an introvert to be quite amusing

Ah, the laugh test. I've had that from both ends. Is your immediate family mainly introverted or extroverted? Perhaps that influences your expression or sense of self, along with the nightmare of child-rearing. Or maybe you relate to ambiversion. Or maybe you're not PmjPmj at all, but an alter the original Pmj dreamt up in a fit of insecurity about introversion. "Now there are TWO of me! I'll never be a forum-visiting loner again!"

 

[redbaron]

I duno y u haev to rip me all the tiem.

i just want ur respek man.

y u hurt me? ;_;

?

entj's don't have feelings to hurt

 

[PmjPmj]

Huh, interesting. And when you first joined the forum, you thought you were INTP, is that right? Quite a move, though I guess both are T-dominant.

No, I've never believed myself to be TiNe.

About your extroversion - is it more to do with other people, or with doing things? Or perhaps they're tied together as you implied - can't do things without other people around, but also can't not do things without getting irritated?

I'm not extroverted in the social sense unless it's a professional setting and I'm working within a team put together to achieve a specific outcome. I'm happiest when my focus is outward, though. Being in my head for too long (or being alone with myself) drains me. Just having the 'buzz' of other people around me is energising - even if I'm not directly interacting with them in a meaningful way.

Is your immediate family mainly introverted or extroverted?

A bit of both, heavy on the Si. I'm an only child and we moved around a lot when I was a kid, so I quickly learned to be ok with spending quite a bit of time alone.

?

entj's don't have feelings to hurt

I did once take a colleague calling me a "Callous bastard" as a compliment. But many are my feels.

Probably.

 

[Jennywocky]

This is news?

(My condolences to your fellow workers.)

Yay! PMJ finally embraced his ENTJness.

.... okay, excuse me for a moment while I go watch Cassini burn.

 

[PmjPmj]

So... is this legitimately news to nobody? Am I the only one having a revelation here?

 

[redbaron]

Something like that.

 

[PmjPmj]

Great.

Y'all should've said something.

 

[Black Rose]

So... is this legitimately news to nobody? Am I the only one having a revelation here?

No, we had them ruffly same time.

Your ENTJ not INTJ
I am INTJ, not INFJ

The irony is I hate both INFJ and INTJ form.

This is my happy home (INTPf)

The first test I took in 2009 said I was INTJ.

Then I joined forums asked and got super confused and became everything under the sun.

I was in a science magnet middle school. Was in advance computer class in high school. All that stuff INTJ's are into.

Fi is I suppose is the main reason people think Feeling type over Thinking type.

Auburn saw Ni eyes in me but he was between Fe and Te.

I am most in touch with Fi on INTPf

I read a comic book about the Buddha this spring, made me cry.

In real life I am not emotionally expressive, I very direct.

 

[Ex-User (14663)]

If only my type could be revealed to me! I would know how to act, what character to have, and what to believe.

 

[PmjPmj]

If only my type could be revealed to me! I would know how to act, what character to have, and what to believe.

CUNT.

Carry on as normal. You're nailing it as you are.



Hey - no problem. I got you.

 

[Ex-User (14663)]

CUNT.

Carry on as normal. You're nailing it as you are.



Hey - no problem. I got you.

Jung reserved the CUNT type exclusively for the most exceptional NTs

 

[TheManBeyond]

 

[Ex-User (14663)]

Pmj is a pure GIMP type

 

[PmjPmj]

You pay a man a compliment and he resorts to petty insults.

Sad times

 

[Ex-User (14663)]

In case it's unclear btw, Im only being a cunt to you because I think you are a cool guy and I know you can handle it

 

[Reluctantly]

CUNT should be a type reserved for online typology boards. But then I guess they'd out-number everyone.

So... is this legitimately news to nobody? Am I the only one having a revelation here?

Not to me, heh. Suspected for awhile based on your posting style since that terrible mafia game from long ago; and I never even knew Auburn typed you as ENTJ. That's kind of funny because people aren't usually in agreement with typing. Then again, introverts seem to mask or personify themselves, but you seem pretty honest and forthright and I think that makes typing a bit clearer. So who knows.

Or tomorrow you realize you were INTJ all along.

 

[PmjPmj]

In case it's unclear btw, Im only being a cunt to you because I think you are a cool guy and I know you can handle it

Your comment further melted my already gooey insides.

Not to me, heh. Suspected for awhile based on your posting style since that terrible mafia game from long ago; and I never even knew Auburn typed you as ENTJ. That's kind of funny because people aren't usually in agreement with typing. Then again, introverts seem to mask or personify themselves, but you seem pretty honest and forthright and I think that makes typing a bit clearer. So who knows.

Or tomorrow you realize you were INTJ all along.

That mafia game

I vaguely recall some expert button-pushing from RB. Either way, it was such a shit-show for myself. I had played Mafia in the past, but I had played it with people who were just shooting from the hip with no real understanding of the various tactics etc. When it's based purely on instinct, I tend to do well - but when people are playing clever games, I quickly get annoyed / confused.

Also, LOL @ my day 1 blunder in which RB had me pegged as Mafia immediately. Fuck me that was hilarious.

Yeah, both Auburn and Architect had me down as ENTJ all the way back in 2012. Based on a video, btw.