Multiple Choice, Transhumanism

[Dormouse]

I tried to highlight the attractive elements of each possibility earlier, but since you're all throwing around accusations of assumptions, here it is: Darkest timeline version.

The Living Planet
So the process of assimilation itself is excruciatingly painful. You're basically dissolved in acid, and your transformation drags on for weeks and weeks. You have plenty of time to regret your decision: The hivemind of the planet is decidedly antipathetic towards all other forms of life, and you're nothing but more matter it will use in its quest to conquer the universe.
As your life is drained from you, hallucinations and paranoia compound the extreme pain. Your thoughts race, guilt about your total betrayal of species diversity overwhelms. You realize that the borg has no interest in preserving your skills or memories. You fight it, but no force of will can overcome the biological toxins: your final experience is one of extreme confusion and suffering, as one by one your memories are erased and your mind degenerates.

The Machine Planet
To begin with: You die. Turns out something's lost when you forgo all material continuity!
Failing that, you've committed uncountable duplicates of yourself to slavery and torture. Turns out the machine world is imperfect, and the minds harvested by the superintelligent managers are used mainly for experimentation and menial labour. Once you've been run through enough painful and humiliating simulations for them to have extracted all useful information, your intelligence will be docked and you'll serve as a drone operator, or a recruiter of future converts. With access to neural map, they can reprogram you to think whatever they want.

The Etheric Planet
a) You're vaporized! The end.
b) Aliens are luring you there to make human soup.
c) Kind of like the parallel torture/desecration/endless pain of the prior options, but with like 29 extra dimensions.
d) Totally the same as this world.

Fly into the Sun
Bad news, you're just boring. It's what everyone's thinking. If you're remembered at all it'll be as that vaguely-noble-but-unimpressive guy. I mean, really. Is your existence that special that you wouldn't risk it to experience something incredible? Are you so perfect that any possible transformation of your being is abhorrent?

 

[Valentas]

Personally, I do not trust technology too much. You can see it being abused by elite people in this world and once the remote killing with drones will be very mainstream, the need for soldier(who at least have feelings) will be eliminated. Do not fool yourself that elite people don't understand that once technological evolution will reach high AI intelligence, billions of people won't suffer. They already suffer. Automation destroys jobs(creates some) and not everybody can become software engineer, medical doctor or any hard to replace professional. A lot of people simply have no brain for that or are too lazy to achieve that through sheer work. My question that I ponder over frequently is that where we will put all these humans whose jobs will be destroyed by the tech but they all want to eat?Have fun? Do you think that elite individuals do not see many people as useless eaters? You can question austerity in Europe as one of the tools to reduce population tbh. It does not work to improve economy but it works to make people desperate and die off.

There will be significant reduction in population in the future and millions will riot. There are measures all around you undertaken to enforce the law. Surveillance, autonomic drones, militarized police, all to manage the inevitable technology effect on common man's standard of living. I know that it is not a reason to halt technological progress and look back where we are spiritually and how to handle the issues of resources collectively as one family on the planet but the changes we're going through are phenomenal and unfortunately elite guys do not hold conversation with population on how to achieve common goal. In my opinion, they know it is impossible and thus population reduction measures are undertaken during this decade that will wipe out some useless people from the planet. What would you do in their shoes?

No one will describe the phenomena we're in than this video. Watch it in your free time and think about it. And don't dismiss video because it contains UFO word in it. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VM-NEcWhj4c&list=UUqOdHprLVQnHhE8FmIY3Yzg

 

[Lot]

Personally, I do not trust technology too much. You can see it being abused by elite people in this world and once the remote killing with drones will be very mainstream, the need for soldier(who at least have feelings) will be eliminated. Do not fool yourself that elite people don't understand that once technological evolution will reach high AI intelligence, billions of people won't suffer. They already suffer. Automation destroys jobs(creates some) and not everybody can become software engineer, medical doctor or any hard to replace professional. A lot of people simply have no brain for that or are too lazy to achieve that through sheer work. My question that I ponder over frequently is that where we will put all these humans whose jobs will be destroyed by the tech but they all want to eat?Have fun? Do you think that elite individuals do not see many people as useless eaters? You can question austerity in Europe as one of the tools to reduce population tbh. It does not work to improve economy but it works to make people desperate and die off.

There will be significant reduction in population in the future and millions will riot. There are measures all around you undertaken to enforce the law. Surveillance, autonomic drones, militarized police, all to manage the inevitable technology effect on common man's standard of living. I know that it is not a reason to halt technological progress and look back where we are spiritually and how to handle the issues of resources collectively as one family on the planet but the changes we're going through are phenomenal and unfortunately elite guys do not hold conversation with population on how to achieve common goal. In my opinion, they know it is impossible and thus population reduction measures are undertaken during this decade that will wipe out some useless people from the planet. What would you do in their shoes?

No one will describe the phenomena we're in than this video. Watch it in your free time and think about it. And don't dismiss video because it contains UFO word in it. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VM-NEcWhj4c&list=UUqOdHprLVQnHhE8FmIY3Yzg

My biggest fear of technology. Not something I like thinking about. Shit is getting pretty dark. I can only hope there is a positive cosmic narrative that'll play out. There are forces that are way bigger than me at work.

Politicians should really just toke up and bask in the wonders of the universe.

Although, perhaps being a borg wouldn't be that bad. That is, if I even make the cut.

 

[Reluctantly]

I'm puzzled by the popularity of the etheric planet as well. The other dimension could very well be one of unending torment.

Even more enticing. The sadomasochist in me can be free.

 

[Pyropyro]

Even more enticing. The sadomasochist in me can be free.

So does this means that the etheric planet is ruled by Pinhead and his Cenobite friends?

 

[Duxwing]

I would choose the ethereal world because all other options would lead to my death: the sun would destroy me, and the other planets would annihilate my consciousness.

They all sound horrible, except the Sun option; that's just quick and relatively painless death. If I was to pick the least horrible option it would be Machine Planet. Although I think I'd rather die, than to be stuck in an eternal existential dilemma.

The current temporary one is bad enough.

You would not suffer an eternal dilemma on the machine planet: you would either survive or not, and, if you survived, then you would choose whether to ponder your existence.

-Duxwing

 

[Polaris]

Actually, whether you 'survive' is a question of what 'Self' actually constitutes. In my view, an original or a perfect replica/copy constitute the same building-blocks and thus the same essence. The dilemma (or perhaps conundrum is a better term) presents itself as you as a digitised version or copy is left with the same sense of self, which means you are still able to doubt the nature of your existence as if you were the original:

The Machine Planet
Rather than individual embodied inhabitants this planet has a massive mainframe at its core in which artificial intelligences and digitised human minds reside and share control of the robotic bodies on the vast city above. If you land on this planet your memories and sense of self will be digitised and your body/brain disposed of, but even though your sense of self still exists the fact that it was copied from another format brings into question whether it's really you or just a copy of your now deceased self.

 

[Josteen]

Easy answer, why would I want to lose my sense of individualism and my independence by sacrificing it and become an aspect of something that was either may or may not be me.
Death is never an option for the current me to find meaning in life, you have to be alive to do anything. The illusion of immortality by sacrificing the current me to create another entity similar with me also does not ring well with me.

So etheric planet all the way, what happen next is still unknown and I have no way to just assume or judge what will happen to me. Whether I will regret it or not, who knows? Just have to find out myself

 

[Josteen]

Imagine what happen in the machine planet when after copying your consciousness into a digital form then of your physical body disposed off, there will be two of you, but which is the real one?

The current you that experience things after this copying is no doubt the physical one, but who is the digital version of you? He used to be you but you are not him and were never him, before he was created he was you, but after he was created he stops being you because he have a whole new experience and a whole new senses and he don't feel what you felt.

But the you right now is DEAD and when you're dead you wont feel anything and wont know anything.