MBTI Type %

[brain enclosed in flesh]

Your husband may have developed those skills that come more naturally to Js as a means of adapting to his own life experience, but that doesn't make him "more J"

That's more what I mean, anyway. He comes from a much more J family than me, which I believe plays a big part in it. He'll do the "because I said so" thing with our kids every once in awhile (his father, 100%) and I have to jump in and explain to them his reasoning. There is nothing more aggravating to my brain than a reason that isn't really one at all.

Yeah... I have an axe to grind with therapists. How dare they label interactive behaviors with biological terms! Someone needs to thump their skulls.

Yeah, no doubt, eh? Could they get any more stupid? And how is that supposed to be beneficial to anyone? All it did was piss the two of us off (while making us both feel as if there was something wrong with us). Great marriage therapy.

 

[Fedayeen]

Decaf, in his usual enlightened manner, correctly pointed out that while J is not innately masculine, Western culture strongly encourages "Jness" in men. P is usually construed, however inaccurately, as indecisiveness, which is one step removed from weakness.

As another male INTP noted in this forum (I can't remember who) three of the four INTP traits go against the grain of stereotypical masculine behavior (T of course, being the only "guy" trait). This helps explain why INTP men, like me, tend to stay away from large groups of guys (think fraternities). I'll never be a "man's man" nor do I want to be.

only 2, I and T.

 

[Decaf]

only 2, I and T.

I think she's referring to the western cultural emphasis in an ESTJ being a "man's man". They tend to be take charge people interested in results and working hard to get them. The stereotypical corporate executive, or thriving small business owner.

If that's the ideal man in western culture (American more so than others) having only the T in common INTPs seem awfully lacking in comparison.